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Title: Sidekick engine without computer?
Post by: explosivo on November 25, 2004, 12:04:30 PM

Is there a not-too-complicated way to get a 1.6L 8v to run without a computer? Could I put a Samurai intake on it with an aftermarket carb that doesn't require a computer?

Title: Re: Sidekick engine without computer?
Post by: keith on November 25, 2004, 01:40:11 PM

Why not just get a computer?  They are around $100 on ebay and from junk yards.

Title: Re: Sidekick engine without computer?
Post by: explosivo on November 25, 2004, 03:02:25 PM

I have the computer... I want to ditch it on a forthcoming sidekick project that I'm planning (it's not for my beautiful black chop-job). :)

And for another question: in an 8v 5spd, does the computer control anything outside the engine? Is it tied into/controls the rest of the electrical systems, too, or what?

Title: Re: Sidekick engine without computer?
Post by: wildgoody on November 25, 2004, 07:02:05 PM

Sure, you can run without a computer
if you swap to a carb, as long as it's
not an Auto Trans

Wild

Title: Re: Sidekick engine without computer?
Post by: Rhinoman on November 25, 2004, 08:04:56 PM

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Sure, you can run without a computer
if you swap to a carb, as long as it's
not an Auto Trans

Wild

Will the ignition coil get the failsafe signal without an ECU? If not you could use a 413 dizzy and coil

Title: Re: Sidekick engine without computer?
Post by: explosivo on November 25, 2004, 09:06:18 PM

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Will the ignition coil get the failsafe signal without an ECU? If not you could use a 413 dizzy and coil

I was kinda wondering if the Samurai 1.3l distributor will bolt right up to the 1.6l head...

Title: Re: Sidekick engine without computer?
Post by: Rhinoman on November 25, 2004, 10:49:22 PM

I don't know what you get over there I was thinking of the electronic type without the ECU. My understanding is that it drops straight in. I need to confirm this though as I plan on replacing the points dizzy in my 410 (I know the 410 and 413 swap) for a 1.6 MPI dizzy

Title: Re: Sidekick engine without computer?
Post by: explosivo on November 26, 2004, 09:28:23 AM

Aren't 413s Samurais?

I think it'd be less complicated for this project to just keep the computer and EFI.

Title: Re: Sidekick engine without computer?
Post by: bandit86 on November 26, 2004, 01:28:13 PM

I dont know what youre doing, but as far as wheeling, I'd never go carburated.  Maybe on a mudrun, where its full throttle all the way.

Title: Re: Sidekick engine without computer?
Post by: zookiemike on November 26, 2004, 02:10:44 PM

I'd say keep the Efi. You might want that rev limiter for mud ;D

Title: Re: Sidekick engine without computer?
Post by: Rhinoman on November 27, 2004, 07:15:30 AM

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Aren't 413s Samurais?

Yes but there was also a 413 that wasn't a Sammi. It was an earlier version with the narrower track of the 410.

Title: Re: Sidekick engine without computer?
Post by: Crabzuki on November 27, 2004, 07:25:49 AM

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Sure, you can run without a computer
if you swap to a carb, as long as it's
not an Auto Trans

Wild

Watcha' talking bout, Willis? I have a dual set-up 40MM Carbs and it's an automatic transmmission. *NOTE* I'm not running any emission controls or computer.

Title: Re: Sidekick engine without computer?
Post by: mrfuelish on November 27, 2004, 08:07:41 AM

yea, but does your auto have overdrive with a lock up converter?

Title: Re: Sidekick engine without computer?
Post by: Rhinoman on November 27, 2004, 09:15:21 AM

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I'd say keep the Efi. You might want that rev limiter for mud ;D

Valve bounce has the same effect  ;D ;D