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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: S.Sidekick on August 29, 2007, 03:38:52 PM
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excuse my french but this system is stupid, checked the egr its clear, and all the hoses are clean, switch works, colant temp sensor checks out, modulator works. im outa options why is this not working and why does that EGR code keep coming up... please help i dont wana spend 500 to fix it. its a 94 4 door 1.6 16v. HELP A BROTHA OUT
S.Sidekick
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Did you pull the EGR valve and clean out the port in the intake manifold? That has a tendency to get plugged up bad on city driven Track/Kicks.
Kelly
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Did you pull the EGR valve and clean out the port in the intake manifold? That has a tendency to get plugged up bad on city driven Track/Kicks.
Kelly
Yep I did everything you did, but it still tossed the code. So I took it back off got a coat hanger and cleaned out that port as much as I could. Also sprayed alot of carb cleaner in there to get it out.... of course it didnt want to start after that, but soon it did.. and no code.
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You might need to pull the exhaust manifold to clean it out from that side.
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yea i used a coat hanger still flashn that code. please help...
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I"m in the same boat, cleaned all that stuff out and can't get the code to go off for the life of me. The longest I've went after cleaning it is 50 miles before it comes back on. Very annoying.
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any more ideas i dont notice it other than the gas mileage running 30" tires with cold air intake, full header preformance exhaust, new iridium plugs and new rotor, i should be getting more than 25 miles to the gallon shifting at 3000rpms right?
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I thought the 94 didn't have all the EGR garbage the 96 and up's have on them.
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I thought the 94 didn't have all the EGR garbage the 96 and up's have on them.
yea, the 16v started in '93 (on 4drs) and it's EGR will clog ...
funnay is I have 2 rigs with an 8v and they have never been a prob, but the '93 16v I suspect is almost clogged (but not throwing code yet).
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On mine, the tube between the EGR and the head plugged with carbon. In addition to cleaning out the port on the head, I had to take the tube off and run a wire through it to clear out about an inch long blockage near the head end.
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http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/feb2005/techtips.htm
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Hey,
Sorry to bring back the old EGR horror story, but after reading this and pretty much ever other post on the subject, I can get to the bottom of my EGR problem, code 51.
I have a 95, 16 valve, with an EGR system that runs through the inside much like the 96's but without the external tube. I have removed my exhaust manifold, cleaned the tub there as far as I could. I hit metal at the end meaning it must curve up or down. Then removed, cleaned the EGR and the two addition holes through the intake manifold, both curve at the ends. New solenoid. Now when I run the engine, when I press on the EGR valve, it should stall the engine, but doesn't, which tells me there must be blockage somewhere. The question is, whether there is another hole I can use to access and clean? I read something about an EGR port behind a throttle plate? Is that on the 95's 16 valve engines as well?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated,
C
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any more ideas i dont notice it other than the gas mileage running 30" tires with cold air intake, full header preformance exhaust, new iridium plugs and new rotor, i should be getting more than 25 miles to the gallon shifting at 3000rpms right?
The Kick should only get about 25 mpg. I couldn't find the sight I wanted, but this will do:
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/7399.shtml (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/7399.shtml)
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Now when I run the engine, when I press on the EGR valve, it should stall the engine, but doesn't, which tells me there must be blockage somewhere.
The "pull on the egr valve" should stall your engine out when cold, regardless of if you tubes are full of carbon. The part that clogs up is your control system to open and close the EGR, not the EGR itself. It sounds like you might actually have a bad valve.
With 29ish tires and a cat-back 2" on my 96 I get between 24 and 27mpg. Not bad considering I still drive it like a toy. :)
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best I can get is around 21-22.
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on my 90 8v i am getting about 24 mpg with 2357515 tires
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My 96 gets about 17-18mpg ..it is an automatic but I dont drive it hard. I also have the p0400 code and I have a p0171 system too lean code, but I am going to make a new post concerning my situation because its a bit different...
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egr related questions again... I fiddled around with my egr system as posted above (cleaning it all out as best I can reach). Light is still on. When running and I activate the EGR diaphram, it acts like its going to stall but doesnt.
Do any of you know if it should stall out completely when activating the EGR diaphram? If so I may just replace it at 169$ cdn!!
Thanks again for your help
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any more ideas i dont notice it other than the gas mileage running 30" tires with cold air intake, full header preformance exhaust, new iridium plugs and new rotor, i should be getting more than 25 miles to the gallon shifting at 3000rpms right?
got a pic of that cold air intake?
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I have the code too. But i'm lost on what port you all are talking about that i should jam a coat hanger into. This seems like a pretty common issue, someone should do a tutorial on here.
Anyhow as i said i have the code on my '95 16v, it kicked on when i replaced my egr valve. Could this also be fixed by installing an aftermarket header? I ask because i was planning to do that anyway and if it's carbon backup in the exaust manifold i'd rather just replace it than go through all that on a part i'm going to replace anyway.
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Hey ya i started this topic and have been battlein it since the kicker was bought. Im only 19 but know alot about it. But i did the same thing most of you guys did, rammed a hanger or wire up my ports and tubes tryin to clean it. for some this worked for others, i did not. i found a man at a swap meet bought a used lower intake manifold, then had it hot tanked, ported, and a little trick but thats besides the point. When i took my lower manifold off it was full of carbon, i kept cleaning and re cleaning my newly hot tanked manifold, but air would still not pass thorugh. the port leading to the exhasut blew like a champ, lots of break cleaner and Q tips broke it all out. But from the EGR to the intake it was still blocked. I took a coat hanger broke it appart, then located 4 tiny holes inside the intake leading from the EGR main pipe. I dug at these for about 10 mins a hole and all were unclogged.i re-instaled the intake and have had not codes or problems for 5000 miles.( knock on wood) Stop runnin cheap gas!! this is where most carbon and build up comes from i run cheveron, and a fuel system cleaner every three tanks. My miles per gallon are sittin steady at 25-27 everywhere. i do have cold air intake, header, high flow cat, 2.5 exhaust, and spark plug wires/plugs so i dont know if that helps as well. but any other questions just ask