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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: SiKiD_01 on November 14, 2004, 08:13:39 PM
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so, who has made one, and how did they do it?
i want to make one soon, cos i'm sik of the flimsy one that i have, it doesn't work too good.
so if anyone has pics, please post, and if there are any other ideas or concepts, i'm game.
thanks
steve
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I really like the look and functionality of this guys bumpers
http://www.cs.umass.edu/~glenn/personal.html
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I'll be starting on my new rearbumper this Friday and will post pictures of it in this topic. It will be in the same double tube-style as the frontbumper. Rearlights will be in a "cage" inbetween the 2 bumperbars, so they are protected.
(http://home.planet.nl/~mverver/SamNBCallowfrontcloseth.jpg)
http://home.planet.nl/~mverver/SAMBUMPER.HTM
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so, who has made one, and how did they do it?
i want to make one soon, cos i'm sik of the flimsy one that i have, it doesn't work too good.
so if anyone has pics, please post, and if there are any other ideas or concepts, i'm game.
thanks
steve
Are you just looking for more protection, or are you looking to have something like a swing arm bumper with a tire carrier?
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at the moment, i was thinking of just making up a rear bar to replace the factory plastic cover and the dodgy factory inside reinforcement, as it does not do anything anyway with the 3" BL.
i'm having a go with some 200mmx75mm channel/C section, and am stuck on the side bits. i'll get pics in the next couple of days so you can see whats going on.
i like the tube bars people are making, but i dont like seeing all the other stuff underneath, like the BL blocks and stuff, esp fuel tank. so even if i make a tube bar, i'll end up using some sort of sheet metal to cover up whats underneath.
i wouldn't mind making a swing arm type for a spare tyre, but it would need to be out of steel and a bit heavier gauge to hold the weight, right?
at the moment, my vit weighs 1080KG with a full tank of fuel and a 80kg-ish driver. i know of a couple of sammis here that weigh a bit less, close to 850kg ish.
i'll see how it goes, and thanks for the ideas and links. if anyone would like to share what they have or any ideas, please do. the rear bumper is the only thing thats annoying me at the moment, even tho i haven't changed my busted CV yet.... oh well, in due course.
thanks again.
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I built one out of some reciever stock we had at the garage. It was supposed to be used for some camper tie-downs but was requisitioned for the cause.
The nice thing about the square stock is it works perfect for hi-lift jacks anywhere along the bumper. You could throw some sheet metal along the back side to cover it up, or some diamond plate on the front with slots cut for the lights. We made the bumper wide enough to give my rear fenders some protection when sliding into objects. Tow hooks are placed inside the bumper and directly off the frame. You could easily modify it to work on your Suzuki.
(http://www.dttm.net/files/062.JPG)
I have seen some nice tube bumper designs that actually wrap around the outside of the rear fender to give it a bit more coverage. That might be a bit more to your liking if you have access to a bender.
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this is mine
(http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/antt/acj.sized.jpg)
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Probably not really what you're looking for, but here's mine:
(http://www.eye-irritant.com/thegallery/albums/Tracker%20Shiz/Rear%20Bumper/Rear_05.jpg)
It's (going to be) an air tank. I actually picked up some fittings today to get stuff hooked up... still have to get a few more things (including either a 12v air compressor or converting my AC pump into a compressor).
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Explosivo, I like the way you think! Here's mine with air tank. Not a great picture of it. Just got all the fittings on last week. Still need to patch a few leaks.
(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/bumper%20-%2011.13.04.jpg)
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im having mine made outta square stock, kind ahard to explain the shape but im goin to get some diamond plate for it tommrow and price out the steel i will post pics wqhen its done
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Explosivo, I like the way you think! Here's mine with air tank. Not a great picture of it. Just got all the fittings on last week. Still need to patch a few leaks.
[im]http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/bumper%20-%2011.13.04.jpg[/img]
That's similar to what I would have done, but the bumper I have is all the pipe I could find :(... doesn't quite span the full width of the trucklet. Although when I cut the rest of the back off and make it into a psuedo pickup truck, I'll add some blinkers/taillights to the sides to make it the right width :)
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I've been thinking about a rear tank skid that
mounts to the frame, and a high angle clearance
rear bumper.
I got out and took some side shots of the Kick
and did some "photoshopping" in Paint :D
Here is what I came up with, mind you this is
just a "shell drawing" no sliders or contour to
the design yet, but the basic shape that will bolt
onto the frame in 9 places :o should be strong
enough to recover full size rigs and not bend ;)
Before
(http://wildcatent.freeyellow.com/zuk-back.jpg)
After
(http://wildcatent.freeyellow.com/zuk-new-rear.jpg)
Thoughts or comments ???
Wild
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Looks like it would work slick. The only thing I would do is integrate the rear tire into it and make it swing away some how. And fab brackets for a high lift or something. Killer idea though.
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I'm wanting to do a swing away,
but I want to wait until I get the
tire size worked out, I also kinda
don't like how far the swing away
tire carriers stick out, we'll see
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you could hug it close to the body couldn't you?
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Ya, I'm thinking of the tire inside
the swing away arm instead of on
the outside, and get the holes to
align with the stock holder to locate
it as close as can be, but not touching
Details for after the bumper is built
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With your vehicle going a little higher, using larger tires, figure the weight you'll have to pick up to put the tire up there. Do a swing down tire carrier. Mount the swing bearings about midway in the weight when tire is up. This will help lesson the overall weight you'll be lifting to lock it down. Then add a skid plate to that (was on a mag cover couple months ago). I really don't think you'll need a skid plate for the gas tank, being that high in the frame and under the floor. I'd add access panel to get at the top of the tank for whatever reason.
Then on the design and layout for the bumper, cofigure so that the swing down bearings can be mounted centered under the weight of the tire, have clevis, rolled lip for hi-lift, etc.
To be a little different than most others, hehe, add a rear only exo-skeleton tieing into the rear bumper, rear cargo, etc. (Similar design that of the Defender90 but with some added exterior support.) to your front interior cage.
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There isn't enough room to get a tire in the frame
for a swing down carrier, and if it doesn't get in
the frame I think it might be lower than the tank
that I have now :-/
The tank skid is also serving as a mount plate,
with straps going over the tank to secure it.
I was thinking about a swing down mounted
from the bumper but I think it will be in the way
more when I get into the back
I may get into an Exo cage, not yet tho,
that will be for some future time when I
plan on grinding the Exo on the rocks
;)
Wild
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I may get into an Exo cage, not yet tho,
that will be for some future time when I
plan on grinding the Exo on the rocks
;)
Wild
What, and avoid a body by Moab? :D
You shouldn't have to build a new tire carrier. Just make sure that the tire will clear the new bumper design before you make your final welds. I failed to do that on my old YJ when we built the new bumper.