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ZUKIWORLD Model Specific Suzuki Forum => Suzuki Grand Vitara, Vitara, Chevy Tracker (Gen. 2 Platform) 1999-2005 => Topic started by: joezuki on September 24, 2007, 11:04:46 AM
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I can get what I think is a good deal on a 2000 4 door chevy tracker. It has a blown engine (owner told me it threw a rod after the oil pump went bad & put a hole in the block.) I called the junk yards in & around pittsburgh & can't find a used engine. Can anyone help me out with a reasonably priced used engine? If not I'll have to pass on the deal.
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Have you tried the Car-Part search engine. I got a great deal on a third member there. Even with shipping from Michigan it was way less than purchasing locally at a salvage yard. When junkyards compete, you win! ;D I look at engines on that site once in a while, too. I'm planning an engine swap eventually. Not sure how much shipping would be on an engine.
http://www.car-part.com
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There's one for sale over on zookpower.ca
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I can't find the one over at zookpower.ca----
Over at carpart.com, there are several to choose from..
thanks davyboy!!! ;D
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A place in Indiana called Jasper Engines sells rebuilt engines for foreign and domestics. They have a good reputation and the engiens come with about a 12K warranty. Their web address is located at: http://www.jasperengines.com/ . If you don't find what you want at Dave's site, check them out.
Norm
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I actually tried jasper first, but the 2.0 is currently unavailable. thanks for the tip!
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Bummer!! I was planning on looking to them for a replacement engine for my beast after I finish this one-year job gig I locked onto. I'll have another 50K miles on my beast by then.
Norm
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Ha, just for fun I went to see if Jasper had a 2.5 v6... yup they did but the price is worth more than my Grand Vitara!!
Pricing and Availability:
The Price Is: $7637.00
Core Deposit For This Unit Is: $750.00
Skid Deposit For This Unit Is: $15.00
Sold On An Exchange Basis w/Jasper Receiving Old Unit As A Core.
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For 7K I could have my buds at the machine shop rebuild the engine and do some custom work to include porting and polishing the heads! Hope their 2 liters aren't that salty!!!
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Thanks for the offer, but $7000 is more than the truck is worth. I was hoping to find a low mileage engine from a totalled tracker under $1500. So far I'm not finding anything local. ( Pittsburgh, PA )
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OK... I found one with 100k for $800. I was told to change the timing chain, front & rear seals. How often does the timing chain need to be replaced on these trucks? Is it difficult or simple, especially since it will be out of the truck? Will the tensioner need to be replaced also? I went onto an autoparts website & it shows an upper chain, lower chain, left guide right guide, but says the tensioner is unavailable. Does that mean that there is none? Is there anything else I should replace before I put it in? Is the 2.0 an interference motor? Questions....questions.... you guys have been a big help to me for years, hopefully someone can answer all of these questions!! ;D
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Here's a lead on one if the fella' in this other forum / thread doesn't end up getting it. Might be worth a look and then a road trip. ;)
There is a 2002 Tracker 4d 4wd about 10 miles away being sold for parts as it was t-boned. The motor is a 2.0L with 56k miles on it, he will let me have the motor for $500 if I need it.
http://www.suzuki-forums.com/1g-1999-2005-vitara-grand-vitara/20431-1999-chevy-tracker-timing-chain.html
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I don't know, a 1000 mile road trip at this pont doesn't sound too appealing. I think I'm just going to go with the one close by ( still an hour & a half away ) I just hope someone can answer my questionsabout the 2.0 engine
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I have a 2.0 liter, 2.5 iter, and a 2.7 XL-7 V6 sitting here.....
Please E-mail me directly.
Sean DeVinney
AFTERMARKET4X4|removethispart|@cox.net
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Joezuki;
I took my 2000 Tracker in for a 100K service a few years ago. My mechanic told me the metal ones in the 2 Lt engines don't need to be changed at the 100K service intervals (like they recommend on the belt style drives of the 1.6) so I didn't have them swap it out because it was holding good timing and no wear was apparrent.
BUT.... I had put 56K of the 96K miles on that engine and I knew where it had been and how it how been cared for. It would be a hell of alot easier (and cheaper) to slap new timing chains on your engine NOW before you install it into your trucklet, than to get it in and go 10K down the rode and have one let go then take out your gears and have the small parts sucked into the oil sump.
IF you have the extra bucks... it might be cost effective (more better) to do it now.
My two-cents.
Norm
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Norm, I found one that I think I'm going to go ahead & buy with 87,000 miles on it. The guy at the bone yard said it runs good. Do you think I should still change the timing chains? Anything else I should change while I have it on the stand before putting it in?
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Tough call, Joe. I don't spend other guys money. That engine SHOULD be healthy with only 87K on it. If it is really an 87K engine. Hell the Tracker I just bought the 14th of last month (Sept) has 81K on it. I have no reason to believe it was excessively abused nor any reason to believe the past owners really kept up on the oil changes and other maintenance either. Judging by the build-up I can see inside the oil cap I can say they probably could have done a little better. But... it doesn't blow, use nor leak any oil anywhere and holds its compression and runs smoothly. I'm driving mine for another 18K before I take it the dealer for the 100K check-up. The guy who bought my old 2000 now has close to 120K on that one now with no problems and on the same chain/s and I expect he'll go another 20K before they get changed out. If that yard who is offering the engine has a decent reputation then go for it. Ya gots to have an engine! Unless you can run diagnostics on the engine (compression etc) it is a crap shoot to some degree, like most the rest of life is.
It boils down to if you have the money on hand to buy the engine AND the parts and whether you want to spend the money for this purpose or not. It appears the rub is it would be easier to swap out the chain and maybe even the water pump while it's still on the ground and even cheaper if you do the work yourself than to have do the same tasks once its sitting in the engine mounts. The cost of the new chain will buy you a little piece of mind.
I can't give you a solid dollar amount on the repair costs to help you metric the difference. IF I had the extra bucks, AND if my HOME 6 (wife unit) was good with it, personally I'd spring for the new parts while it's still on the floor.
The only other thing that comes readily to mind on these 2 Liter engines (given my limited experience with these engines) can be easily addressed after the install. The spark coils ride over each of the spark plugs on these engines (on top of the head) and the rubber boots that cover them extend well down into the head. When you go to change plugs, the boots have a tendency to adhere to the spark plugs and valve cover walls and will frequently rip before they finally pop off. When this happens you can have some arcing through these cracks into the head (cyclinder missing). This isn't a really big deal except I can't find any place to just buy the replacement boots for them.. I have to buy the whole damned coil with the boots attached for each cylinder affected and they are salty. About $80+ each as irecall. I had two rip on me the last time (that's a 50% rip rate!). So before they go back in both the inside and outside of the rubber gets a light coat of of dialectic (sp?) grease which should make them easier (and cheaper) to pop off the next time they need changed 80K+ miles later or as requried for whatever reason.
That's my thoughts.
Hopefully some of the other forum members with more experience on this issue can toss in their two-bits on this issue as well.
At any rate, good luck and I hope you got an engine that will pull you 200K+ miles.
norm
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I should be getting the motor on saturday. I'll at least look at the chain & guides before deciding what to do. Then price the replacement parts. I'll also make sure to lubricate the boots when i change the plugs. Thanks for all the info.