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ZUKIWORLD Model Specific Suzuki Forum => Suzuki Grand Vitara, Vitara, Chevy Tracker (Gen. 2 Platform) 1999-2005 => Topic started by: toofaroffroad on October 26, 2007, 11:29:15 PM
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I've got a 99 manual 5-speed tracker. The truck is running great except my transmission is loud. Even after I changed the transmission oil it's got a loud sound to it. The sounds totally goes away when the clutch is pushed in. My question is: how will I know when it's really serious...when it's too late?
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R you sure this isn't a throwout bearing getting worn?
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no I'm sure sure, how would I determine that?
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Main shaft bearings are going bad. Slap some lucas in there for a try. Reason these go is people leave the trucks idle too long and the bearings run dry. Make sure if its cold just to back the truck up a foot or so then back up this will splash some oil on the gears and bearings
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How many miles are on your beast? and have you had a clutch and pressure plate swapped out yet? I you have 150K+ on it and still running the original clutch, it's time for one of them to start acting up. Interstate miles don't these parts up too much... because you aren't taking pressure off and on alot. But if you drive in town alot AND beat teh hell out of it ontrails, the parts eventually throw in the towel.
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I know this is an old thread but it got no closure...
looks like there are other thread regarding the re-building of the transmission syncros & bearing... but my truck kinda I'd say, just started making these noises where when you pop the clutch it goes away...
First off, is this bearing related or clutch? If its bearing, maybe I'll just see if I can find another trans...
My clutch was replaced and I'm not sure I want to bother with tearing apart the transmission (or might but just keep it as a spare)
Does lucas work?
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One thing I noticed...do you have the proper fluid in it?
GM specs Synchromesh. 75w90 IS NOT RIGHT and Synchromesh is much "thinner".
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What gear oil do you think is the right weight then?
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Synchromesh fluid. You can get it from GM and Chrysler dealers and Pennzoil makes a knock off you can get at most AdvanceAuto's for about $8 per quart.
Beware as some types of 75w90...GL5 I think...has additives in it that actually eat away at the yellow metal parts of manual transmissions. Synchronizers for insance. My buddy just had to replace his NV3550 in his Wrangler because of this and mine is harder to shift than it should be...and had what appeared to gear oil in it.
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Even in the Vitara Manual it refers to gear-oil instead... which again reflects the rates of 75-90
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Chevy calls for Synchromesh.
If they call for gear oil check for GL5...you DO NOT WANT that. GL4 may be okay. There's a few discussions about it here and on Zuwharrie.
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well anyways... this is the deliema
I replace my clutch about 20k km ago... I really don't want to go abouts overhauling my transmission so I was thinking of putting some lucas in...
other problem...
I can't open up the top filler plug w/ a 3/8th anything, its starting to strip when I try to use an extention & breaker bar
help!!
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Chevy calls for Synchromesh.
If they call for gear oil check for GL5...you DO NOT WANT that. GL4 may be okay. There's a few discussions about it here and on Zuwharrie.
The recommended oil for the manual transmission is 75W90 GL4. If it meets GL4 it is safe for brass synchro parts. If it only meets GL5, it may not be, so don't use that. If it meets GL4 and GL5 it's ok.
GL5 is for the differentials.
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r3, try heat.
Ian, again, GM recommends Synchromesh. Dunno what Suzuki says but my manual plainly says Synchromesh for the trans and t-case.
After going through the old discussions on it here I tried to find GL4 75w90 and had no luck coming up with it. Everyone had GL5 and most parts stores went..."what?"...when I asked about GL4 instead of GL5.
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thing is... likely I have gl4 in my transmission, it shifts smoothly and is good with all that jazz
BUT... if I were to put lucas in, would that change the viscosity too much?
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I'm not a big fan of the magical goo's but that's just my opinion. If you've got a quality synthetic gear oil in there than the Lucas shouldn't offer any benefit.
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I'm not a big fan of the magical goo's but that's just my opinion. If you've got a quality synthetic gear oil in there than the Lucas shouldn't offer any benefit.
This is quite true...
I mean its not a bad noise, and I think release bearings will always make a bit of noise...
How do you know if its possibly the clutch? (though I did replace it)
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Is it just a light scratching noise or similar? Sorta rhythmic?
I had a '96 Ford Ranger with the Mazda M50D 5 speed stick and after having the clutch replaced at 150k it started to do that. Went away when I pushed the clutch in. I owned it for another 17,000 miles and it never changed or got worse.
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Is it just a light scratching noise or similar? Sorta rhythmic?
I had a '96 Ford Ranger with the Mazda M50D 5 speed stick and after having the clutch replaced at 150k it started to do that. Went away when I pushed the clutch in. I owned it for another 17,000 miles and it never changed or got worse.
Its totally rhythmic, but seeing how the rebuild kit I saw for the clutch comes with both a bearing for both the input (release) bearing & throwout, I guess its something I'll have to do...
I'll put some lucas in the interm to see if ti helps quiet things up a little (If I can get my damned filler cap off)
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The release bearing and the throw out bearing are the same thing - just two different names.