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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: TN_Tracker on June 11, 2005, 02:57:19 PM
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Sorry, but I think this is ugly :P
(http://www.autonews.ru/img/news/topics/2005/06/07/64644_top_photo.jpg)
(http://www.autonews.ru/img/news/topics/2005/06/07/64644_bottom_photo.jpg)
(http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/11153.jpg)
(http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/11152.jpg)
http://www.autoindex.org/news.plt?no=1147#
http://www.martos4x4.com/fotos_santana_300.htm
Translated from Spanish to English by Google:
Santana 300, new vehicle based on the Vitara the plan of diversification of Motor Santana in Spain initiates his first passages with the manufacture and commercialization of 5,000 units of the new vehicle Santana 300, and with construction sites of the facilities it Auxiliary Company of the Railroad (Caf). According to sources of the company consulted by Europe Press, the factory of Linares (Jaén) is completing the preparations to begin to make its second model with mark Santana after the agreement reached with Motor Suzuki Corporation. The new vehicle will take as it bases the Vitara veteran, who has been remodelado by the prestigious company of design ' Italdesign', specialized in the world of the automobile. The most important changes of Santana 300 with respect to the Japanese model take shape in a modification of the aesthetic front and back outside of the vehicle, since it incorporates new optical, paragolpes, grid and anagrams Santana, as well as new finished an inner one who incorporates new tapestries, climatizador, radio CD, embellecedores in console and pomos of transference and gearshifts. New Santana 300 will maintain the motorizations of the present Vitara, so that the versions to gasoline will mount motors 1,6 of Suzuki and PSA. diesel engine 2,0 Is predicted that Motor Santana makes 5,000 units of this new model during the first year of assembly. Also, in next dates, and after formalizing the agreements with the Auxiliary Company of Railroad (Caf), the construction sites of the ships will begin that will lodge the facilities of manufacture and assembly of the railroad units, in principle metropolitan, already contracted. The commitment of the new company, always according to the consulted sources, is the one to begin the delivery of the first units in the month of January of the next year.
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Ugly?
It's a trac/kick/vit with a different bumper and new dash ... same body tho.
I wouldn't call a trac/kick/vit body beautiful, but that's certainly no different.
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i dont know about other guys, but i'm not too keen on the 1 piece front bumper/grille/headlights.
other than that, i'd definately be up for buying a new vit in the old shape.
interior is nice, same ol shift lever and transfer tho, which is a good thing.
oh yeah, can't say it'd go wrong with a couple of cup holders. yay.
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well the interior is the same a sport sidekick. so they through a new bumper on it and call it new? still even has still rims? I do like the option of a diesel engine. imagine a kick with torque. I would like the front bumper with a suzuki grill the fog lights would look sweet on my ride.
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Ugly?
It's a trac/kick/vit with a different bumper and new dash ... same body tho.
I wouldn't call a trac/kick/vit body beautiful, but that's certainly no different.
>:( I think my Tracker is beautiful ;D The bumper/grille/headlights in the front and the rear bumper and lights are different, check the links. Looks like some Ricer-Boy designed it, 1989 design meets 2005 uglification and it doesn't work. The dash is not new, my '96 looks exactly the same. Guess ugly is in the eye of the beholder.
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I guess I solved the problem of having an ugly Tracker, I pulled my bumpers off ;D. Technicially speaking, I didn't pull them off, they were forced off by a rock. But anywho, it has been beautified.
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So has mine ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v133/RockSolid4X4/Tracker/withoutbumpers.jpg)
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The headlights look good but the rest of the frontend looks like Poo Poo.
But I really like the Boxie styling of the pre 99's
Nothing personnel for anybody that has a newer one.
I'm just use to the square look. (old Mopar guy ;))
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I think the front end would look tons better without round headlights. A modified, updated version of the old style headlights would make it look pretty slick, IMO.
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Who cares if its ugly...looks like two wheel drive to me...
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Who cares if its ugly...looks like two wheel drive to me...
what about manual hubs and transfer case shifter?
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Who cares if its ugly...looks like two wheel drive to me...
Apparently you need to visit an optometrist, I see a transfercase shifter and manual hubs. ;)
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Santana have never made a 2wd Vitara, thus there are none here in spain and I don't think there are any in europe.
I don't like it either...
The car in the background in the third foto is a Santana Anibal, which is like a LR Defender, just copied as the 300 is like a Vitara.
If the PSA diesel engine is kept to the same specs, it should have 90 HP and 205 Nm torque...
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Italdesign, the styling house that brought us the awful Morris Ital, I'm sure they must have designed something attractive once, lol. The VIN plate on my 'Suzuki' Vitara says Santana Motor Company. Suzuki UK stopped importing the car version in 2002IIRC, it seems that Santana have now dropped the Suzuki name
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Bizarre, but kinda of cool at the same time.
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The headlights look good but the rest of the frontend looks like Poo Poo.
But I really like the Boxie styling of the pre 99's
Nothing personnel for anybody that has a newer one.
I'm just use to the square look. (old Mopar guy ;))
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:-[ I guess I shouldn't post at 3:30 AM when my brain and bifoculs are out of focus. The truth seems obvious this morning... :-[Whats that about better to be embarased than bare- assed... wait thats no true either ;D
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I think TN was referring to the grumper (grill/bumper as one :P) as the ugly thing...
I also grew to love the Vitrackick's body... classic offroad body with that "triangle" shape for less tip-overs 8)
Anyway, that grumper's waiting for a head-on collision :P
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I wish car manufacturers would be more original... I mean they've always copied to a certain extent,but to reproduce a platform thats 16 years old is just irresponsible. I mean I love my tracker as much as the next guy but If I was laying down that much money for a new vehicle nowaday's the trackicks just don't cut it. I do like round headlights and tail lamps but I think they were done wrong. the only way that I could see them looking good is to take off the crossbrace between the hood and the grill and move the lamps higher. In all newer vehicles the lamps are closer to the hood line giving a cleaner less bulkey, more sporty look. That's just my humble opinion.  :-/
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think a larger version of the jimny would have been nice
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take the bumper off, and put an older grill and lights on. then you have a bran new kik ???
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I think TN was referring to the grumper (grill/bumper as one :P) as the ugly thing...
Exactly ;) It is cool that they are still being made, with a diesel no less. 8)
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Why is all the cool stuff outside the US? :(
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http://www.santana-suzuki.es/porta.htm
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Why is all the cool stuff outside the US? :(
Because ...
Nader says corvairs are "unsafe at any speed"
Comsumer reports says samurais rollover
Ford blames the tires
Firstone blames the truck
Hippies living in a desert complain about smog
I'm tempted to import a jimny, get a title (and badges) from a jeep liberty, and hope I never get pulled over :)
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Why is all the cool stuff outside the US? :(
Well, quite the oposite happens around here...
You get tired of only seing muscle cars on TV, it sucks when aftermarket parts are all from US and you have to pay posting and packaging here, then pay import taxes and duties...
And it also sucks when you guys can modify things only paying for parts. We have to pay an engineer to legalize the mods... I mean, its good for you, but here it isn't that good;)
A Jimny is a good offroader once you remove all the plastic ;D
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...We have to pay an engineer to legalize the mods... I mean, its good for you, but here it isn't that good;)...
:o Bummer, is it expensive to have things legalized?
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wow it look like this company spears no expesense in having the most update things. They even used the same shifter knob my kick came with 9 years ago. You think they would at least update the dash with more color or something. Well at least we can rest knowing parts for are vehicle are still going to be made and not discontinued.
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wow it look like this company spears no expesense in having the most update things.
There has been great debate on weather this has been a good move by Santana. The idea was to continue making a very affordable 4x4. There isn't much point in trying to update the car, as this will increase the price and people would rather buy a GV than car over 15 years old for a little more money. But if it is really cheap, it does have potential buyers.
Another thing is the grille/bumper. I don't like it either, but...
The adantage they have is they have been producing this car for years and years, so they have the factory set up. It is a minimal investment.
Suzuki lost their confidence from them because the cars aren't well made... Loose bolts and materials that aren't good quality, especially when compared to japanese kicks/vitaras.
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why would it be illigeal to import a jimny to here? if u get it inspected
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I believe you can import anything you want, as long as it is non radioactive...
You'll have to pay taxes plus import duties... If the problem is the government, as long as they get paid (with taxes obviously), they will probably allow you to do most everything...;D
Here in Spain, you have to pay 16% sales tax on all imported goods, plus an imoprt tax of 4% if it is for a car or related. This 4% is like to protect the local automotive industry :-/. Then you have to register the vehicle and insure it (you insure the car, not the driver... weird isn't it?).
I imagine importing something to the US would be much the same.