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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: BIG DOG on December 03, 2007, 08:44:45 AM
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I posted this in the other factory gear ratio post but I thought it might be getting lost to people that have already looked at that post and one of them might have this info!
How about someone posting what year, engine ,tranny had what gears so we may have a better idea what to look for .And also what will fit in a sidekick/tracker or what won't.This is as close as I could come with the search,....posted by ZeusZuki ....Vits came out with 4.3 / 4.56 / 4.88 / 5.13 / 5.63 ratios stock ( again from memory ) but most 1600's are 5.13.
Good luck.
ZeusZuki
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....Vits came out with 4.3 / 4.56 / 4.88 / 5.13 / 5.63 ratios stock ( again from memory ) but most 1600's are 5.13.
5.13's came in 5 speeds,
5.63 only came on 1989 1.3 carbed Sidekicks,
5.38 came on early 4 door 5 speeds 91-95,
4.63 came on 89-94 3 speed automatics,
4.30 came on 92-95 4 speed automatics
4.88 came on 99-03 automatic Grand Vitara's
Some of the other gear ratios are are available in second generation Vits as well.
http://Car-Part.com makes a great parts interchange guide. just look at the part you want then click years at the top of the listing, all the years that fit will be listed in order.
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I'm questinging this
5.38 came on early 4 door 5 speeds 91-95,
doesn;t jive with
5.13's came in 5 speeds,
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I can add that all X-90's regardless of 5 speed or auto came factory with 4.62's(or 4.63's depending on how you round numbers... LOL!)
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I'm questinging this
5.38 came on early 4 door 5 speeds 91-95,
doesn;t jive with
5.13's came in 5 speeds,
512's came in 2 doors.
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The 4.30 ratio only came in the 16v auto 3speed, 1995, I think.
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I'm questinging this
5.38 came on early 4 door 5 speeds 91-95,
doesn;t jive with
5.13's came in 5 speeds,
512's came in 2 doors.
The correct answer is 5.38's only came in '91 4dr manuals.
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I'm questinging this
5.38 came on early 4 door 5 speeds 91-95,
doesn;t jive with
5.13's came in 5 speeds,
512's came in 2 doors.
The correct answer is 5.38's only came in '91 4dr manuals.
Because in 91 the 4 door manuals were 8 valve motors. In 92 they went to 16 valves and the 5.12gears.
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I'm questinging this
5.38 came on early 4 door 5 speeds 91-95,
doesn;t jive with
5.13's came in 5 speeds,
512's came in 2 doors.
The correct answer is 5.38's only came in '91 4dr manuals.
Because in 91 the 4 door manuals were 8 valve motors. In 92 they went to 16 valves and the 5.12gears.
Actually afore mentioned is right but 5:38's were offered for more than just one year. It may have been offered more to the california models for a longer time span.
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I hate to throw a wrench in the info stated already (which was mostly correct) but I have a '95 4 door 4 speed auto that came with 5.12's. And the '91 4 door 8 valves manual trans I can conform at 5.38 as I have pulled diffs out of 2 different trucks and that's what the ratio was.
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My info applies only to 89-98 trackicks.....99+ trackicks may or may not be different.
The 4.30 ratio only came in the 16v auto 3speed, 1995, I think.
The 4.30 ratio came in any trackick with the 16V and a 3 speed auto.
Actually afore mentioned is right but 5:38's were offered for more than just one year. It may have been offered more to the california models for a longer time span.
5.38s ONLY came in the 91, 4 doors, with a 5 speed......all 91 4 doors came with the 8V engine.
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My info applies only to 89-98 trackicks.....99+ trackicks may or may not be different.
The 4.30 ratio only came in the 16v auto 3speed, 1995, I think.
What other years had the 16v and 3 speed auto? I thought they went to 4 speed after that.
The 4.30 ratio came in any trackick with the 16V and a 3 speed auto.
Actually afore mentioned is right but 5:38's were offered for more than just one year. It may have been offered more to the california models for a longer time span.
5.38s ONLY came in the 91, 4 doors, with a 5 speed......all 91 4 doors came with the 8V engine.
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Here is a list.....it is simply designed to tell you what ratio you have based on year, body, engine, and tranny.
89-98 Trackick gear ratios
Year 2 or 4 door Engine type Transmission Axle ratio
89 2 1.3L carb. 5 speed man. 5.625
89-95 2 1.6L TBI 5 speed man. 5.125
89-95 2 1.6L TBI 3 speed auto 4.625 (a 94/95 may have 4.30s)
91 4 1.6L TBI 5 speed man. 5.375
91 4 1.6L TBI 3 speed auto 4.625
92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 5 speed man. 5.125
92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 3 speed auto 4.30 combo never offered
92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 4 speed auto 5.125
94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 5 speed man. 5.125
94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 3 speed auto 4.30
94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 4 speed auto 5.125 combo never offered
96-98 X90 1.6L MPFI auto or man. 4.625
4.625 gears have an 8/37 tooth count
4.30 gears have a 10/43 tooth count
5.125 gears have an 8/41 tooth count
5.375 gears have an 8/43 tooth count
5.625 gears have an 8/45 tooth count
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What other years had the 16v and 3 speed auto? I thought they went to 4 speed after that.
I think that the 3 speed was available with the 16V up until 98 at least. I am 99% sure that it was not a 95 only option....edit: in fact I know it wasn't, because I have seen a 96 2 door with a 3 speed auto.
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Now that is a nice comprehensive list! I'm printing that one and putting it in my turdzuki file.
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[url]http://Car-Part.com[/url] makes a great parts interchange guide. just look at the part you want then click years at the top of the listing, all the years that fit will be listed in order.
I got the info I posted by going to Car-Part and looking up the gear ratios, Car-Part uses a dismantlers interchange program so I expect the information is accurate.
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Yes I think that's a correct list because I can personally verify the first 7 on the list, having had the gears in my hands at one time or another over the years.
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I can verify the whole list is accurate, because I have personally seen, had, or pulled every ratio, and every combo, on the list, except for the 89 1.3L 5.625s (but I know that one is correct).
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Here is a list.....it is simply designed to tell you what ratio you have based on year, body, engine, and tranny.
89-98 Trackick gear ratios
Year 2 or 4 door Engine type Transmission Axle ratio
89 2 1.3L carb. 5 speed man. 5.625
89-95 2 1.6L TBI 5 speed man. 5.125
89-95 2 1.6L TBI 3 speed auto 4.625
91 4 1.6L TBI 5 speed man. 5.375
92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 5 speed man. 5.125
92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 3 speed auto 4.30
92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 4 speed auto 5.125
94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 5 speed man. 5.125
94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 3 speed auto 4.30
94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 4 speed auto 5.125
96-98 X90 1.6L MPFI auto or man. 4.625
4.625 gears have an 8/37 tooth count
4.30 gears have a 10/43 tooth count
5.125 gears have an 8/41 tooth count
5.375 gears have an 8/43 tooth count
5.625 gears have an 8/45 tooth count
I agree that list is accurate, but missing one ...
91 4 1.6L TBI 3 speed auto 4.625
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I can verify the whole list is accurate, because I have personally seen, had, or pulled every ratio, and every combo, on the list, except for the 89 1.3L 5.625s (but I know that one is correct).
I actually found those 5.62's at a pick-a-part, that's what I'm running in the turd right now. 1.3 carbie=hard as heck to find
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I agree that list is accurate, but missing one ...
91 4 1.6L TBI 3 speed auto 4.625
Thank you, I already printed the list but I'll add that one.
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Here is a list.....it is simply designed to tell you what ratio you have based on year, body, engine, and tranny.
89-98 Trackick gear ratios
Year 2 or 4 door Engine type Transmission Axle ratio
89 2 1.3L carb. 5 speed man. 5.625
89-95 2 1.6L TBI 5 speed man. 5.125
89-95 2 1.6L TBI 3 speed auto 4.625
91 4 1.6L TBI 5 speed man. 5.375
92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 5 speed man. 5.125
92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 3 speed auto 4.30
92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 4 speed auto 5.125
94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 5 speed man. 5.125
94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 3 speed auto 4.30
94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 4 speed auto 5.125
96-98 X90 1.6L MPFI auto or man. 4.625
4.625 gears have an 8/37 tooth count
4.30 gears have a 10/43 tooth count
5.125 gears have an 8/41 tooth count
5.375 gears have an 8/43 tooth count
5.625 gears have an 8/45 tooth count
I agree that list is accurate, but missing one ...
91 4 1.6L TBI 3 speed auto 4.625
I am waiting to hear back on that one. I just recently found someone that actually has a 91 4 door with an auto (until now, I though all 91, 4 doors had manual trannys). I think the 91, 4 door, with auto will have 5.375s (5.38s), like the 5 speed.
Or are you 100% positive that a 91, 4 door, 1.6L TBI, 3 speed auto will have 4.625s?
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I am waiting to hear back on that one. I just recently found someone that actually has a 91 4 door with an auto (until now, I though all 91, 4 doors had manual trannys). I think the 91, 4 door, with auto will have 5.375s (5.38s), like the 5 speed.
Or are you 100% positive that a 91, 4 door, 1.6L TBI, 3 speed auto will have 4.625s?
I own one, it's my parts rig. ... it certainly doesn't have 5.38's
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I am waiting to hear back on that one. I just recently found someone that actually has a 91 4 door with an auto (until now, I though all 91, 4 doors had manual trannys). I think the 91, 4 door, with auto will have 5.375s (5.38s), like the 5 speed.
Or are you 100% positive that a 91, 4 door, 1.6L TBI, 3 speed auto will have 4.625s?
I own one, it's my parts rig. ... it certainly doesn't have 5.38's
Ok. Good to know.
So you have dropped out a third and verified that it has 4.625s (8 and 37 tooth count)?
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dropped the front third and sold it off as a 4.62 ... no complaint from the customer.
when the weather gets nicer here, I'll go rotate the rear and take a count.
it's 4.62 tho I'm 99% certain ... I drove it and can kinda "tell".
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dropped the front third and sold it off as a 4.62 ... no complaint from the customer.
when the weather gets nicer here, I'll go rotate the rear and take a count.
it's 4.62 tho I'm 99% certain ... I drove it and can kinda "tell".
Ok. I'll wait for verification.
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5.38s ONLY came in the 91, 4 doors, with a 5 speed......all 91 4 doors came with the 8V engine.
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If we are using carparts.com as the basis of this search. Then 5:38's came in 1989, 1990, and 1991 suzuki sidekick models. My personal references for my information are from Petroworks, Trail Tough, and Rancho recyclers. I have had to purchase more than just one of them before. I stand by my previous comment of the 5:38 gears offered for more than one year. :P
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If we are using carparts.com as the basis of this search. Then 5:38's came in 1989, 1990, and 1991 suzuki sidekick models. My personal references for my information are from Petroworks, Trail Tough, and Rancho recyclers. I have had to purchase more than just one of them before. I stand by my previous comment of the 5:38 gears offered for more than one year. :P
I am not using carparts.com as a basic for my info. I am using real world, personally verified information.
I will also stand by my previous comment that you will only find 5.38 gears in 91, 4 doors with the 8V engine and a 5 speed manual tranny. ;)
If they came in 89 and 90 sidekicks......what body style and drivetrain set up did they come in?
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If they came in 89 and 90 sidekicks......what body style and drivetrain set up did they come in?
In looking at Car-Part it does look like the majority of 5.38 are coming out of 91 4doors. There are listings for 5.38's from other year kicks and it could be that those vehicles were modified or the part is incorrectly labeled I don't know for sure. We can be sure that they can be found in 91 5sp 4 doors.
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According to petroworks I beleive the early 1.3l equipped kicks may have had them.
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I can verify the whole list is accurate, because I have personally seen, had, or pulled every ratio, and every combo, on the list, except for the 89 1.3L 5.625s (but I know that one is correct).
I actually found those 5.62's at a pick-a-part, that's what I'm running in the turd right now. 1.3 carbie=hard as heck to find
The 1.3 carbie came with 5.62's
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According to petroworks I beleive the early 1.3l equipped kicks may have had them.
The 89 1.3L sidekicks had the 5.625 gears.....that has been verified by people on here.
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According to petroworks I beleive the early 1.3l equipped kicks may have had them.
The 89 1.3L sidekicks had the 5.625 gears.....that has been verified by people on here.
Correct it has been verified, but there are always options or exceptions from the norm or this list. As verified by vendors and businesses that deal with parts all day. Such as Petroworks, Trail Tough, Rancho Recyclers and now Carparts.com., which provided me with said gear sets.
Your statement on what vehicle it is found in is correct, I just contend your timeline when they were used. ;)
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Here is a list.....it is simply designed to tell you what ratio you have based on year, body, engine, and tranny.
89-98 Trackick gear ratios
Year 2 or 4 door Engine type Transmission Axle ratio
89 2 1.3L carb. 5 speed man. 5.625
89-95 2 1.6L TBI 5 speed man. 5.125
89-95 2 1.6L TBI 3 speed auto 4.625
91 4 1.6L TBI 5 speed man. 5.375
92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 5 speed man. 5.125
92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 3 speed auto 4.30
92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 4 speed auto 5.125
94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 5 speed man. 5.125
94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 3 speed auto 4.30
94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 4 speed auto 5.125
96-98 X90 1.6L MPFI auto or man. 4.625
4.625 gears have an 8/37 tooth count
4.30 gears have a 10/43 tooth count
5.125 gears have an 8/41 tooth count
5.375 gears have an 8/43 tooth count
5.625 gears have an 8/45 tooth count
This is one of the reasons I wish this forum would have technical specs sticky, I would be more than happy to start this, but am no expert on zuks, (still learning). Great Info! Searching to find it can some times be a little challenging.
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According to petroworks I beleive the early 1.3l equipped kicks may have had them.
The 89 1.3L sidekicks had the 5.625 gears.....that has been verified by people on here.
Correct it has been verified, but there are always options or exceptions from the norm or this list. As verified by vendors and businesses that deal with parts all day. Such as Petroworks, Trail Tough, Rancho Recyclers and now Carparts.com., which provided me with said gear sets.
Your statement on what vehicle it is found in is correct, I just contend your timeline when they were used. ;)
Yes, there can be exceptions to the rules. But until I personally see an exception, or personally talk to someone, who has personally ran across the exception, and is a reliable "source", I will stand by my list as being 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% accurate....right down to the year(s).
This reminds me of a discussion I had on another board.......one guy swore up and down that no 2wd Samurai's were ever made. He even went on to say "Suzuki knows what they made, and they said no 2wd Samurais were ever produced." Now, I don't know where he got his "Suzuki statement" that he was quoting, but he was obviously wrong.
The bottom line is.......If someone wants to question my timeline, and has personally ran across an exception, and is a reliable "source", then I will listen......if someone wants to contend my timeline based on hearsay, or "I heard", or "I read"....then don't waste my time. 8)
And as we all know.....vendors and websites are never wrong. :P I would bet that they are all pulling their info from somewhere that has it posted wrong, and they have not personally ran across any exceptions to my list. But, much like the vendors and websites, I could be wrong. ;)
I see that car-parts.com lists some carbs for 90 samurai's.......that's odd, since in 90, all samurais were EFI.
They also list some carbs for 1.6L, 1990 sidekicks......odd, since all 1.6L engines are EFI...and 89 was the only year for a carbed sidekick, plus it was a 1.3L, not a 1.6L.
See a pattern here?
I am through discussing this, from lack of verifiable evidence. For those of you reading along at home......Take my list for what it's worth. If you think you will find 5.38 or 5.62 gears in other years/combos than what I have listed.....good luck....but I'm betting you will be wasting your time.
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I agree with skihirangers rant ... which reminds me, I still need to take a count on the '91 4dr 8v 3spd ...
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when the weather gets nicer here, I'll go rotate the rear and take a count.
yup, a '91 4dr with a 3pd auto is 4.625 diffs.
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BTW, one more ??? I would have on this list (which I think is pretty complete) would be the diffs on the *rarish* '95 16v 3spd autos (2dr and/or 4dr) ... I *think* they might be wacky ...
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BTW, one more ??? I would have on this list (which I think is pretty complete) would be the diffs on the *rarish* '95 16v 3spd autos (2dr and/or 4dr) ... I *think* they might be wacky ...
They have the 4.30 ratio.....it is included in my list, you just have to look closely......
92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 3 speed auto 4.30
94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 3 speed auto 4.30
I agree, you usually don't see the 3 speed auto, along with the 16V, but they really aren't "rare", IMO.
when the weather gets nicer here, I'll go rotate the rear and take a count.
yup, a '91 4dr with a 3pd auto is 4.625 diffs.
Ok, thanks for checking that. Did you drop the third out and count teeth, or just spin the tire and count DS revolutions?
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Ok, thanks for checking that. Did you drop the third out and count teeth, or just spin the tire and count DS revolutions?
counted revs ...
I lifted a tire, (it no longer has a DS), marked both the tire and pinion. spun the one lifted tire 9.25 times and pinion was at mark (I assume the pinion spun 10 times, but sheesh it was dark and I was alone and ...). So, 9.25/2 == 4.625.
got a problem with this?
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Ok, thanks for checking that. Did you drop the third out and count teeth, or just spin the tire and count DS revolutions?
counted revs ...
I lifted a tire, (it no longer has a DS), marked both the tire and pinion. spun the one lifted tire 9.25 times and pinion was at mark (I assume the pinion spun 10 times, but sheesh it was dark and I was alone and ...). So, 9.25/2 == 4.625.
got a problem with this?
For 4.652 gears the pinion flange/pinion/driveshaft spins 4.625 times for every 1 rotation of the tire (assuming both tires are turning the same direction and speed). If you lift one tire off the ground and spin it (and the other tire stays stationary), the tire in the air will spin 2 times for every 4.625 revolutions of the pinion flange (because of the spider gears in the carrier).
So by your method, the pinion flange should have spun.......
21.39 times in 9.25 tire revolutions (9.25/2)x4.625 if you have 4.625 gears,
23.7 times in 9.25 tire revolutions (9.25/2)x5.125 if you have 5.125 gears,
24.86 times in 9.25 tire revolutions (9.25/2)x5.375 if you have 5.375 gears.
So based on that info, how sure are you on the ratio?
The easy way to figure ratio (with the diff installed), is to lift one tire off the ground (make sure the other stays stationary), and spin the tire exactly 2 complete revolutions, while counting the pinion flange revolutions.......in 2 complete rotations of the tire, the pinion flange will spin the number of revolutions that the gear ratio is......4.625, 5.125, 5.375, etc.
If you are not able to see the pinion flange rotate.......then before you start spinning the tire, mark the pinion flange at the 12:00 position, then spin the tire 2 complete revolutions.......for 4.625 gears the pinion flange mark should end up approximately at the 7:00 position, for 5.125 gears the pinion flange mark should end up approximately at the 2:00 position, and for 5.375 gears the pinion flange mark should end up approximately at the 4:00 position.
Sorry for questioning you, but I want to make sure I have accurate info.
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I'll check again this weekend ... you are right my "process" wasn't correct.
It started raining and dark and ... this rig isn't in a fun place to crawl under yada yada yada ...
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According to petroworks I beleive the early 1.3l equipped kicks may have had them.
The 89 1.3L sidekicks had the 5.625 gears.....that has been verified by people on here.
Correct it has been verified, but there are always options or exceptions from the norm or this list. As verified by vendors and businesses that deal with parts all day. Such as Petroworks, Trail Tough, Rancho Recyclers and now Carparts.com., which provided me with said gear sets.
Your statement on what vehicle it is found in is correct, I just contend your timeline when they were used. ;)
Yes, there can be exceptions to the rules. But until I personally see an exception, or personally talk to someone, who has personally ran across the exception, and is a reliable "source", I will stand by my list as being 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% accurate....right down to the year(s).
This reminds me of a discussion I had on another board.......one guy swore up and down that no 2wd Samurai's were ever made. He even went on to say "Suzuki knows what they made, and they said no 2wd Samurais were ever produced." Now, I don't know where he got his "Suzuki statement" that he was quoting, but he was obviously wrong.
The bottom line is.......If someone wants to question my timeline, and has personally ran across an exception, and is a reliable "source", then I will listen......if someone wants to contend my timeline based on hearsay, or "I heard", or "I read"....then don't waste my time. 8)
And as we all know.....vendors and websites are never wrong. :P I would bet that they are all pulling their info from somewhere that has it posted wrong, and they have not personally ran across any exceptions to my list. But, much like the vendors and websites, I could be wrong. ;)
I see that car-parts.com lists some carbs for 90 samurai's.......that's odd, since in 90, all samurais were EFI.
They also list some carbs for 1.6L, 1990 sidekicks......odd, since all 1.6L engines are EFI...and 89 was the only year for a carbed sidekick, plus it was a 1.3L, not a 1.6L.
See a pattern here?
I am through discussing this, from lack of verifiable evidence. For those of you reading along at home......Take my list for what it's worth. If you think you will find 5.38 or 5.62 gears in other years/combos than what I have listed.....good luck....but I'm betting you will be wasting your time.
Rant no more. I told you there are exceptions to every rule and that this r+p is inherently a rare gear set. I personally have purchased 4 of these gear set over the years and know they exist from your rather narrow year vision. One has come with an abs sensor on it while the others have not.
According to the suzuki dealer and Hawk,Trail Tough, Petroworks and Rancho recycling (which are not verified according to your standards) they were offered for more than one year.
5:38 gear set = suzuki part#27300-60822 were offered from 1989-1995 for the sidekick 4 dr manual
Now skyhigh ranger tell me what year they started using the abs or speed sensor on the rear kick diff? Or would you like me to call the dealer and find that out too?
Remember your info is correct but your single year correction is incorrect.
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Rant no more. I told you there are exceptions to every rule and that this r+p is inherently a rare gear set. I personally have purchased 4 of these gear set over the years and know they exist from your rather narrow year vision. One has come with an abs sensor on it while the others have not.
According to the suzuki dealer and Hawk,Trail Tough, Petroworks and Rancho recycling (which are not verified according to your standards) they were offered for more than one year.
5:38 gear set = suzuki part#27300-60822 were offered from 1989-1995 for the sidekick 4 dr manual
Now skyhigh ranger tell me what year they started using the abs or speed sensor on the rear kick diff? Or would you like me to call the dealer and find that out too?
Remember your info is correct but your single year correction is incorrect.
While you are talking to the dealer.....
Ask them what drivetrain options got the 5.375 gears, for the years other than 91.
Find out what the dealer option code was for 5.375 gears for years other than 91.
How do you know that the 5.375 gears weren't swapped into another year vehicle, before any of your vendors got the vehicle?
Did the aftermarket ever make 5.38 gears?
My 5.375 third that I pulled from a 91 4 door has ABS, so it was evidentely an option that year.
What is up with your statement......."5:38 gear set = suzuki part#27300-60822 were offered from 1989-1995 for the sidekick 4 dr manual"
Where did you get that info....from your sources you mentioned? If so, I can see how well they pay attention to details. You do know that 91 was the first year for 4 door sidekicks, don't you? Or are you going to argue with me on that one too?
Bottom line is.....I am leaving my list as is. And as I stated before..........my list will be correct 99.9999999999999999999% of the time. Since it is not 100%, that leaves room for your statement that 5.375 gears can be found in other vehicles other than 91 4 doors. You can either agree with it or not, I don't really care.
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Suzuki dealer info baby, live with it. This info is not for your list, it is for the zuk enthusiasts that want correct dealer verified info. If none of this info convinces you I really do not care. Get a hobby.
Your platform is looking weak on your end. No amount of info will change your mind, till you learn for your self. Now it is your turn to go ask all your other questions at the dealer. My info is backed by suzuki motor corporation, where I see no legitimate orginization backing your "list" except that you and few others pulled some diffs and came to these conclusions.
If none of this info convinces you, I really do not care. Get a hobby. Till then zuk on and live a good life with out 5:38's in your life. By the way merry xmas skyhiranger.
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I'll ask again......where did you get your info that 4 doors were made from 89-95? Is that your "suzuki dealer verified info" you speak of? If so, real good "verified" info you got there. ::)
Since you seem to have all the "dealer connections" that provide you with "verified info", why won't you answer my questions I posed to you in my last post? It would help support your credibility.....since all I've heard so far from you is an inaccurate statement from you supposedly quoting your "dealer verified info". And while you are at it, have suzuki provide you with how many units were sold in any year other than 91, that had 5.375 gears in them. Hell, have them give you the unit numbers for the 91s too, that had 5.375s.
You ever think that maybe the reason the 5.375 gearsets are so rare is because they were only offered for one year, and in one particuliar drivetrain configuration?
I gave you your "exception" by saying my list may not be 100% accurate......why can't you accept that? And you think I need a hobby? I am sure as hell not going to say 5.38s can be found in 89-95 4 door sidekicks......which is the only, and not to mention, vague, statement I have heard from you.....I haven't heard of a drivetrain cofiguration they came in (for any year other than 91), I haven't heard of an option package they came in, I haven't heard of a dealer option code, nothing. At least I can back up my supposedly "weak platform" with a drivetrain configuration. What have you got? Nothing, but a bunch of people telling you they were offered in other years other than 91.
Oh, btw, I have "5.38s in my life"......pulled them from a 91, 4 door, of course.
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This is getting old, I know what I know and could care less about convincing you.
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You guys sound like an old married couple. Dealer backed or not, thanks for the information. ;D
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The 5.38's I just bought came from a 91 4 door.
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This is getting old, I know what I know and could care less about convincing you.
YOUR DEALER VERIFIED INFO STATEMENT "5:38 gear set = suzuki part#27300-60822 were offered from 1989-1995 for the sidekick 4 dr manual" IS WRONG. 4 DOORS WERE NOT MADE UNTIL 91 (FACT)......OR ARE YOU TOO F'N STUPID TO REALIZE THAT? AND IF THAT PART OF THE STATEMENT IS WRONG, WHY SHOULD WE BELIEVE ANY OTHER PART OF THE STATEMENT IS TRUE?
I CAN'T ARGUE WITH SOMEONE THAT HAS NO COMMON SENSE.
I'M DONE WITH THIS THREAD.
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OHH my god!!! Skyhighranger you flippin idget. This thread is dead and if you do not like what you hear take it up with the suzuki dealer. You got any more comments, PM me and move on. Or at least step off your soap box and go wheel some.
I cant believe your getting mad at me and personally attacking me for info that I received from suzuki. What ever, can we stop now. ???
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uhh flexmonger, the "info" you get from a dealer aint worth SQUAT ... wake the fawk up.
skyhiranger ... I did get under my '91 4dr 3spd auto and measured correctly this time ... they are indeed 4.625 diffs. (I needed to pull the parts rig into the shop anyways so could actually get under it and count 1 tire up, 2 revs of the tire resulted in 4.6 revs of the pinion)
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Dealerships, parts counters and even Suzuki specialists give good and BAD information.... Your points have been made (both sides) so please refrain argueing and insulting comments:
If you have valuable input (not argument or insulting responses) please continue; If not the thread will be locked form further use.
Zig
my 2 cents: Take ALL information with a grain of salt.... I have been told by a Suzuki/Geo dealer that my 89 Sidekick was never made...That all 89's were Geo Trackers... He even stood by his comment after me showing him mine (that was sitting in the parking lot)... With 'your Tracker must be modified to look like a Suzuki' ???
Then same guy sold me the correct part for my Suzuki/Tracker look alike :laugh: