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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: DistantSmoke on January 05, 2008, 01:53:28 PM
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Ok I was told that the rear axles are held in by a circlip and you just use a slide hammer to pull them out, well I bought a 13# slide hammer kit and welded an adapter to bolt to the end of the axle and this thing will not pull. What am I doing wrong here....I am hitting this thing with a couple hundred #s of force and it's not coming out. The whole rear axle is on the garage floor so it's not bolted in the vehicle but I'm putting the boots to this thing and afraid that I'm gonna trash the differential or something....HELP!!! ??? :'(
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I would get the axle housing situated to where it can't budge at all. Maybe locked behind the wheel of a car. Then keep jerking at it. I did mine while it was on the vehicle with a smaller slide hammer then that. It took a good 30 whacks. Yours is just being stubborn. The housing is probably moving too much each time you jerk. Probably the only thing you might damage are the studs and they are replaceable. I'm sure someone else here has a backup plan. Hope that helps.
-Adam ;D
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Make sure you have the 4 bolts of the bearing retainer removed. If you don't have those bolts removed you will not get the axle shaft out.
Then just slam the heck out of your slide hammer. It'll take more oomph with the axle on the floor as the axle housing will move when you use the slide hammer.
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Do a search at Ack's FAQ for rear axle. The link is in my signature.
There, you will find links to two well-illustrated articles on how to remove the axle shafts from a Samurai rear axle.
As phloop pointed out, all the pounding in the world won't budge those axles if you don't remove the four bolts that hold the retaining plate in place. This retaining plate - not Circlips - keep the axle shafts in place.
Hope that this helps!
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Ack, you are a world of knowledge... Zukiworld should hire you as an outside consultant!!!!
;) ;) ;)
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Thanks guys I really appreciate those that have the knowledge and experiance that see it in their hearts to share that experiance with those like myself that are absolute newbees to the Suzuki relm. 8)
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I had same problem, here is a easy way to get them out..
http://www.zuknation.net/zuknation/ZN/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=616
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Thanks guys I really appreciate those that have the knowledge and experiance that see it in their hearts to share that experiance with those like myself that are absolute newbees to the Suzuki relm. 8)
That is why we are here!
I have to add john1974's page to the FAQ:
http://www.zuknation.net/zuknation/ZN/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=616 (http://www.zuknation.net/zuknation/ZN/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=616)
His page shows the use of the "magical extraction tool" AKA the Samurai Scissor Jack.
Lots of other good stuff there at ZukNation.com
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Thanks guys I really appreciate those that have the knowledge and experiance that see it in their hearts to share that experiance with those like myself that are absolute newbees to the Suzuki relm. 8)
That is why we are here!
I have to add john1974's page to the FAQ:
[url]http://www.zuknation.net/zuknation/ZN/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=616[/url] ([url]http://www.zuknation.net/zuknation/ZN/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=616[/url])
His page shows the use of the "magical extraction tool" AKA the Samurai Scissor Jack.
Lots of other good stuff there at ZukNation.com
.net ;)
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Ok too funny...I did what Ack said and pulled the four backing plate bolts then went back to the slide hammer.
I laid right into it and shot the whole damn thing accross my shop covering me and everything in sight with gear lube.
I must have loosened it up real good beating on it before removing the 4 little bolts :-[
I checked your Ack FAQ and could not believe the detailed write up on the rear axle bearing replacement...wow what a bunch of cool guys. Thank you thank you thank you. 8) :) ;)
Where should I buy parts from...bearings, locks,spacers, and seals???
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Haha! I assumed you had already pulled off the backer plate! :laugh:
You can get the bearings kits from Hawk Strictly Suzuki if they have them in stock. I think they are the cheapest.
-Adam ;D
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glad to hear you got it......
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Any of the venders should have them . if you need them and cant wait napa can get them in a day.
They saved me from missing the melt in 2007.
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Any of the venders should have them . if you need them and cant wait napa can get them in a day.
They saved me from missing the melt in 2007.
Just be careful with what Napa trys to sell you. I trust Hawk far more than Napa.
-Adam
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Another shade tree way of getting the axle's free is to loosen the bolts and drive around the block a time or two. The force of the turns when driving on the loose retainer will help free the axle.
Only do this just before removal, you don't want to drive around for a week like this. Bad things will happen.
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Man, I haven't laughed that hard in a long time, DistantSmoke!
Sorry, but the image you painted was pure LOL!
Check out the TSBs at the FAQ. There is one for the rear wheel bearings. Suzuki changed the design of the bearing so that the separate spacer is integrated into the bearing itself. Here is a picture from a thread at ZukiKrawlers.com:
(http://www.zukikrawlers.com/albums/holeshot/100_1797.jpg)
See the brass spacer to the right of the bearing race? Old bearings come with that ring separately. Here is another picture from the same thread:
(http://www.zukikrawlers.com/albums/holeshot/100_1802.jpg)
New-style bearings have that spacer integrated into the bearing race. Sometimes the spacer in an old bearing mysteriously "disappears" as it sits on an auto parts store shelf. I have actually had that happen twice! So carefully inspect the bearing when you pick it up at the parts store. There should be a raised side machined into the bearing OR there should be a spacer packed in with the bearing.
Hope that this helps!
BTW, I stand corrected.
zuknation.net (http://www.zuknation.net)
Sorry about that, John... :sleepy:
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Another shade tree way of getting the axle's free is to loosen the bolts and drive around the block a time or two. The force of the turns when driving on the loose retainer will help free the axle.
Only do this just before removal, you don't want to drive around for a week like this. Bad things will happen.
??? :laugh:-Adam ;D
(http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14624.0;attach=3074;image)
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Ack I had to laugh at myself on that one. :-[ :laugh: :-[
The 13# slide hammer, backer plate, and axle flew right between my legs and up under my bench splattering me from the waist down and everything else at that level in the shop with gear lube. Then to my amazement another quart dumped out of the housing on the floor around my feet before i could think of what to do next. All in all it wasn't so bad....I got the axle out and got rid of all that extra kitty litter I had sitting around the shop. ;)
Here is a picture of what the axles will be installed under...2004 Yamaha Rhino :o
(http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/9466/10005878gp.jpg)
(http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/1850/10005866cs.jpg)
(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/9066/10005887kg.jpg)