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Title: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: Mowcheeba on January 16, 2008, 12:49:36 PM
I have a Suzuki Samurai 2002 Model "Long". Some say it is called model Espana or Santana but I don't know for sure.
 It has a 1.9 CC Renault Diesel engine. I have heard that is the original engine for this model. But a friends
friend say he is almost sure the the engine has been changed.
Could anyone help me............. It looks almost like this but without the thing in front.

(http://i7.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/bf/90/d080_1.JPG)
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: Rhinoman on January 16, 2008, 01:46:53 PM
You should be able to tell if it is a Santana built model because it will say so on the VIN plate. The VIN usually starts VS for Santana models. There were 1.9 diesel engined santanas so it could well be the original engine.
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: Drone637 on January 16, 2008, 02:26:14 PM
I remember talking about this a while back.  Some of them Santanas supposedly came with a Renault diesel, but I can't tell you which ones.
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: Mowcheeba on January 16, 2008, 03:50:57 PM
You should be able to tell if it is a Santana built model because it will say so on the VIN plate. The VIN usually starts VS for Santana models. There were 1.9 diesel engined santanas so it could well be the original engine.

Where is the VIN plate located? There is a little plate under the hood but it doesn't
say anything about model but it does say what oil to use and another Dupont plate with
color info and a code Z8D.
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: Rhinoman on January 17, 2008, 04:37:25 AM
Well on a Right Hand Drive model its below the dash on right oon the drivers side.
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: Mowcheeba on January 17, 2008, 07:24:56 AM
Well on a Right Hand Drive model its below the dash on right oon the drivers side.

Thank you, I found it. Here is what it says:

SANTANA-MOTOR, S.A
e9-98/14-0024
VSESJL04CNA (200355 ,Stamped in the plate)

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: Rhinoman on January 17, 2008, 11:35:07 AM
Thank you, I found it. Here is what it says:

SANTANA-MOTOR, S.A
e9-98/14-0024
VSESJL04CNA (200355 ,Stamped in the plate)

Any thoughts?

VSE = Santana (It says that anyway)


I'll ask someone who will probably know





Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: Mowcheeba on January 17, 2008, 11:54:18 AM
Thank you, I found it. Here is what it says:

SANTANA-MOTOR, S.A
e9-98/14-0024
VSESJL04CNA (200355 ,Stamped in the plate)

Any thoughts?

VSE = Santana (It says that anyway)


I'll ask someone who will probably know







Thank you , Rhinoman.
I'll be waiting for your reply. Hopefully good news....hopefully original engine :)
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: Rhinoman on January 17, 2008, 12:46:51 PM
You'll have to ask a main dealer, that VIN code is coming up as invalid. A local dealer may have a more complete list. I believe the N in the code means 1992.

Edit:
The guy I asked, our newest member mlines (thanks Martin), has done some more research. From that and the stuff I found on Wikipedia it seems that:

VSE = Santana
SJ = SJ     
L = Long Body    S = Short body
04 = 1.9 diesel, 00 = gas, 03 = turbo diesel
C = Car (J model), V=Van (V model)
N = 1992
T = assembly plant, A = a different assembly plant

The A assembly plant isn't shown for that model on the Suzuki database but it looks very much like your vehicle is as it left the factory.
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: Mowcheeba on January 17, 2008, 03:26:50 PM
You'll have to ask a main dealer, that VIN code is coming up as invalid. A local dealer may have a more complete list. I believe the N in the code means 1992.

Edit:
The guy I asked, our newest member mlines (thanks Martin), has done some more research. From that and the stuff I found on Wikipedia it seems that:

VSE = Santana
SJ = SJ     
L = Long Body    S = Short body
04 = 1.9 diesel, 00 = gas, 03 = turbo diesel
C = Car (J model), V=Van (V model)
N = 1992
T = assembly plant, A = a different assembly plant

The A assembly plant isn't shown for that model on the Suzuki database but it looks very much like your vehicle is as it left the factory.



It can't be a 1992. The engine and car in general is in to good condition to be 15 years old.  This is
a 2002 Samurai Santana "Normal". Mine is exactly like this beside that mine is longer.
It seems like the Renault 1.9 Diesel Engine is original.

(http://images02.olx.com/user_images/636/6367729_1.jpeg)
(http://images04.olx.com/user_images/636/f_6367729_6.jpeg)
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: nelson miguel on January 18, 2008, 04:18:56 AM
Hello! here in Portugal have many Samurais diesel, they come with a 2 types of engines, 1 with the 1.9 TD Peugeut and other with 1.9 Reunalt engine, if you need som information about this engines i can help you ok, my Sammy is a Original 1.3 l engine but i now very weel this engines ok...see u
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: Mowcheeba on January 18, 2008, 04:48:24 AM
Hello! here in Portugal have many Samurais diesel, they come with a 2 types of engines, 1 with the 1.9 TD Peugeut and other with 1.9 Reunalt engine, if you need som information about this engines i can help you ok, my Sammy is a Original 1.3 l engine but i now very weel this engines ok...see u

Thank you nelson miguel! So what you are saying is that I can be 100% sure the Renaul 1.9 Diesel
engine is original in my 2002 Samurai Santana? If so, great!!
I have some more question about the engine but I don't have time now,
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: nelson miguel on January 18, 2008, 04:48:54 AM
This is a Peugeut Engine but with a Intercooler the original dont have intercooler yours is like this?

(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc189/NelsonCaldeira/S88-N3pdf-AdobeReader.jpg)

Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: Rhinoman on January 18, 2008, 04:50:04 AM
It can't be a 1992. The engine and car in general is in to good condition to be 15 years old.  This is
a 2002 Samurai Santana "Normal". Mine is exactly like this beside that mine is longer.
It seems like the Renault 1.9 Diesel Engine is original.

Well my Vitara has the N in that position too and mine is a 2000 model so I guess that Suzukl/Santana don't use the year code. That may be a US thing.
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: Mowcheeba on January 18, 2008, 09:58:21 AM
nelson miguel: That engine don't look loke mine, mine looks exactly like this one.

(http://images04.olx.com/user_images/636/f_6367729_6.jpeg)
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: nelson miguel on January 21, 2008, 07:32:47 AM
In that case you have the renault engine, and yes its original.... Bye ;)
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: MaD.72 on January 21, 2008, 10:27:54 AM
 :'( i'm from canada, and i want one!!!
Title: Re: Original engine in my Samurai?
Post by: Mowcheeba on January 26, 2008, 06:22:18 PM
In that case you have the renault engine, and yes its original.... Bye ;)

Thank you. Now I can relax, good to know I have not been fooled.