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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Ronzuki on October 29, 2004, 07:00:37 AM
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It amazes me what some people are more concerned about...
listen to the guy filming!
http://www.fototime.com/094EB039C2D53B8/orig.WMV
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That is scarry. I wonder if they were hurt?
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no, we were not hurt :o
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Wow
Crazyness!
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Good roll cage. :)
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Thanks for the vid. ;) Makes me think I cound use just a little more cage. ::) Im glad noone was hurt.
Mike
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Wow... that looked rough :o
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gesh dude that is totaly what i am affraid of
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Ya , I looked at the video also. Came to the conclusion the guy filming has no concern for the people inside the zuks welfare.
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And you must ask your self, when you see a friend trip and fall are you the guy that stops and helps him up or the guy that falls on their butt laughing?
Really good roll cage. Rolls are so much softer when people are doing less than 80 mph! ;)
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The person running down to the rig was yelling are you Okay? and the driver responded "Ya"
then the guy said "I have it all on tape".
And thats way I have a cage. (the Gf wanted one ;))
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that's what scares me about some off-roading. i wouldn't want something like that to happen without a cage or a harness. a harness would be most important to keep you planted in the seat.
i want both.
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 Came to the conclusion the guy filming has no concern for the people inside the zuks welfare.
Max (guy running the videocam) is a good guy, you just have to know him. And yes, he is nuts.
Here is the pilot (zooky) after being righted.
He just sawzalled the cage off and went wheeling again the next day.
~daxe
(http://zukibot.home.comcast.net/squished.jpg)
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He just sawzalled the cage off and went wheeling again the next day.
~daxe
([url]http://zukibot.home.comcast.net/squished.jpg[/url])
Actually he continued on that day, cleaning that one m/f'ing section in the middle of "that trail".
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You would think after rolling, he wouldn't go wheeling till he got the cage rebuilt.
But. to make the cage actually work, you need to have cross bracing to keep it from folding in on you.
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that's the first thing I noticed. His cage held up pretty well considering he went over several times. But the heavy distortion to the passender side makes me glad he was riding solo. That was serious roll and He faired well. I am glad to see that the roll didn't dampen his spirits. Some people give up the sport after the first roll.
Glad everyone is OK thanks for the vid.
Hutch
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that's the first thing I noticed. His cage held up pretty well considering he went over several times. But the heavy distortion to the passender side makes me glad he was riding solo.
he wasn't solo. He had a passenger. And that was a Petroworks sport cage he had. it was the next piece to be upgraded, but was hastened a bit, shall we say. ;D
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the passenger is 6'4". His head was in my lap (uh, not before the roll) which prevented it from getting squashed. As far as wheeling it with the cage like that, the trail was short and there were no other off camber spots and my passenger rode with someone else. I didnt wheel it after the cage was cut out. As far as I am concerned the cage did its job, it was a hard roll. I have a better cage now
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Yes, a welded cage is waaay better than a bolt togethor design. I hope he learned his lesson about them.
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the passenger is 6'4". His head was in my lap (uh, not before the roll) which prevented it from getting squashed. As far as wheeling it with the cage like that, the trail was short and there were no other off camber spots and my passenger rode with someone else. I didnt wheel it after the cage was cut out. As far as I am concerned the cage did its job, it was a hard roll. I have a better cage now
Glad things worked out on the survivability of that roll.
Have you reviewed the roll from your climbing up the wall, to your final frontal endo?
Was it possible that you could have placed the tranny in reverse, bump in gear, to get the weight off the initial roll?
Same for holding the brakes when you went over the front endo?
I'm just figuring out some my own limits with different vehicles and at times (one with the auto) I stall the climbing ability, then push more to go forward raising a tire and getting light up front, heavy in back. When I get off the gas, the front drops drastically and I do loose the traction point of the rear tires.
Just wondering if you analyzed the video for such things.
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I'm glad everyone came away from that OK! from the looks of the cage, I wouldn't have guessed the passenger faired too well.
Didn't mean to upset anyone, it's just that if that were one of my buddies rolling like that, I'd have been on my way down hill before he came to rest.
Again, glad to hear everyone's OK, and back in the saddle again ;)
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Have you reviewed the roll from your climbing up the wall, to your final frontal endo?
Just wondering if you analyzed the video for such things.
I understand what you mean, but even that video doesn't describe the difficulty of that one section. It is BRUTAL! seriously steep and off camber everywhere. Once that roll started, there was no stopping it, no matter what you try.
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that video doesn't describe the difficulty of that one section. It is BRUTAL! seriously steep and off camber everywhere. Once that roll started, there was no stopping it, no matter what you try.
I second this. The video makes it look kinda flat but it's anything but flat. The reason he kept on rolling was because it's down a hill. There's also a second step just before the one he slid off.
Most of us have looked over that video to try and figure out what happened. The general consensus was that there was just a tad too much throttle at the highest point, which unweighted the front tires enough to let the front start sliding to the right. From there its just the shape of the rocks and the steepness of the hill kicking you around.
I have some still shots of trucks going up that rock face. I'll see if I can find 'em.
~daxe
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I thought the problem was it spun around his right rear tire instead of it grabbing traction and popping over the rock.
Other then the cage and windshield supprisingly little damage. Most end-over's like that end up with the hood smashed in. Any shots of the new cage Zooky?
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Hey Zooky, that is a good looking sami. What are the specs? Amount of lift, wheel/tire combo? How about a pic with the new cage.
Scott
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Hey Zooky, that is a good looking sami.  What are the specs?  Amount of lift, wheel/tire combo?  How about a pic with the new cage.
Scott
here's a couple from a run earlier this year...(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/tomd26/OFRR4.jpg)(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/tomd26/OFRR1.jpg)
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Hey Zooky, that is a good looking sami.  What are the specs?  Amount of lift, wheel/tire combo?  How about a pic with the new cage.
Scott
'Nother angle...(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v316/tomd26/OFRR2.jpg)
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thanks for the compliments and posting the pics. Its a Rockrat cage, its pretty stout. I tied it into the frame this time and I am adding some rear bars and a few other reenforcements this winter. The specs are: Shaffer coil suspension with Land Cruiser axles locked with longfield birfs, 4.56 gears and 35" beadlocked MTR's; Sidekick 16v engine and automatic transmission, Kicker3 w/4.16 gears in the sami case and all the other normal add-ons. This winter I am also adding hydro-assist to my FJ60 P/S (been having steering issues all summer) and pushing the rear axle back 12". I would like to step up to 37's but the 35's are new and I would take too much of a loss on them. I have another mod in the that I am keeping a lid on for now.