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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: bartolo92 on January 28, 2008, 07:39:28 AM
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Hey yal! Im new to this Suzuki world! I have no idea about these cars in how they really work so I would really like to know whats goin with my new ride!
I just baught this 92 Tracker Hardtop 3speed auto 185,000miles for 500 bucks! Its really clean! I just have a few issues in trying to perfect its performance. I will start of for now with what sounds like the diffs are slipping or tranny?
Please correct me of help me! lol
When ever im at a light or approaching a turn, as soon as i turn, i notice the car starts to rev up and the car is not moving! more like rolling in neutral. after a certain point into the turn, it will catch again and jump! depending on how much it revs! It seems like something is slipping? Anyone know what this can be from? ???
also, i took it of roading a few times and I noticed that when im climbing a really steep hill, it starts climbing, then all of a sudden rev up and jump again and again like its trying to grip something in the tranny? im afraid that by doing this again, it might break my drive shaft or and axel! its like it drops out of gear for a really quick second then engage again! anyone know what causes this? its this normal for the autotrans? ???
4wd in all works perfectly fine!
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Have you checked the transmission fluid? Sounds like it could be low.
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yeah, the tranny fluid is topped off
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try changing the filter. It could be clogged?
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your tranny is slipping.
It could be the filter is starving it as was mentioned. Would explain the "while turning" or "while climbing" since the fluid would move. But, if it is topped off (while hot), then even that seems strange.
I'd at a minimum do a fluid+filter change ... might even try a pint of lucus additive too (one of the few additives I've known to work).
IMO, that tranny is likely to be on it's last legs ... the lucus can help it along for a while, but once they start to slip (for whatever reason), they go downhill VERY fast.
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yeah, the tranny fluid is topped off
Are you checking it while it's running and at operating temperature?
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Add a quart of trans fluid, and make sure to use Dexron III.
DO NOT USE TYPE F OR A FLUID!!!
I have 280,000 miles on my auto trans and it has seen many an
offroad mile as well as turbo power, the 3 speed trannys are GM TH180
and are well built.
Wild
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Off topic , but Wild how's your Turbo runnin?
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OK, needs tuning and I want to swap the head out to a 16V
setup, so I been waiting for that to finish tuning the injection.
Hutch might have some video of me on the dunes at the Hammers
but I didn't ask if he shot any, I'll have to ask him.
Wild
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i checked the fluid when the car was off, then i also checked it as soon as i started it while it was running like the manual said. also checked it after it reached operating temp. it seems to be on point. i did notice it said to use Dexron III, maybe the previous owner used the wrong tranny fluid? i think im gonna go and get this flushed out and refilled. i only had the car for like 2 weeks, it runs fine in all, no noise or sqeeks coming from the engine, it has plenty of spunk! its just when it comes down to a turn with like 1 rotation on the wheel, thats when it starts to slip. you can say when i bust a u as well, it will slip.
alsotry changing the filter. It could be clogged?
what filter are you refering too? does the tranny have its own filter too???? or the oil filter?
thanks guys!
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The filter you're looking for is inside the tranny...just drain the tranny oil and remove the pan, the filter is there!!
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sweet! i will have to take a look at that when i get home today, hopefully i have the right tool to do the job! lol im kinda limited on them right now since my bro left my tool box in my crx and someone broke into it just to take my tools!!!! >:(
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Hey Wild, re: your turbo, I'm building a new manifold out of 304 Stainless weld el's. I had a new Exhaust Flange cut out for the 16 V head. If you need one I'll let my original flange go pretty cheap.
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Did you check your engine mounts. A friend of mine had a vehicle (not a Zuk) with a broken mount. In a turn, the engine would tilt just enough to put tension on the shift linkage and pull it into neutral. When the car straightened out or slowed down, the engine would flop back into place and reengage the tranny. An off the wall thing, I know, but doesn't hurt to check.
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Did you check your engine mounts. A friend of mine had a vehicle (not a Zuk) with a broken mount. In a turn, the engine would tilt just enough to put tension on the shift linkage and pull it into neutral. When the car straightened out or slowed down, the engine would flop back into place and reengage the tranny. An off the wall thing, I know, but doesn't hurt to check.
I had a Ford pickup that I got for a song because it popped out of gear somtimes. A friend was backing it up for me one day and I noticed the tranny jumped a little. Took a look and found out it was because one of the motor mounts was shot. Fixed it and never had the problem again.
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Hey Wild, re: your turbo, I'm building a new manifold out of 304 Stainless weld el's. I had a new Exhaust Flange cut out for the 16 V head. If you need one I'll let my original flange go pretty cheap.
I have the stainless to make 2 flanges, but thanks all the same, the 16V flange is easy compaired
to the 8V, round ports and stud holes are a simple layout
Wild
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i took a look at the tranny last night, didnt have the tool to pull off the pan and check the filter but i did notice that the gasket has a little leak! i guess this will need replacing :P but yeah, i will check the motor mounts later today then too. it doesnt seem to pop out of gear, i mean, when i turn slowly, you can feel like its slipping in the tranny, like its trying to grip something, im not toooo fimilar with auto but imagine driving a stick, when you have a six puck clutch disc and you verly slowly try to engage it, you can feel the pucks slipping by trying to grab a hold of the pressure plate? like you can actualy feel the rotating part in the tranny thats trying to grip.
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Man, hurry up and figure this out. The suspense is killing me!
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This tranny problem is sounding scary! My auto only has 80k on it, and it works great, but thinkin' about your problem is giving me the shivers. If it only slips when it's "turning" could it be somthing in the rear diff? Have you tried it in 4wd, to see if it does it then?
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This tranny problem is sounding scary! My auto only has 80k on it, and it works great, but thinkin' about your problem is giving me the shivers. If it only slips when it's "turning" could it be somthing in the rear diff? Have you tried it in 4wd, to see if it does it then?
yeah, i did it 4wd too but i dont drive of course with it on the street but i do notice when im climbing a hill or even turning around a bend, it still some how rev's up a bit to like a quick 3000rpms then engages and jumps! i notice if im going really really really slow, it doesnt really slip.
unfortunatly guys, i have no time the rest of this week to actually get under the car and figure this out until next week. >:( but any help, suggestions, or relative issues would be great info! thanks so far for the tips!
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??? OK, I'm stumped.