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Title: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: whitfield on October 21, 2004, 05:49:15 PM

I got some wheeling pics back from Zuwharrie that I'd like to share.  Many are not showing the actuall terrain due to the camera.   The shot with the 3 guys on the drivers front was a almost a roll (but it looks level).  I got out and looked it over, Inched forward and watched the front end reach for the sky.   :o  I was almost sideways angled to the right on a steep off camber up hill.  I'm still picking seat out of my backside.
    Overall everything on the 4-dr worked well.  I can not say enough about the 4:1 gear set.  The auto in low 1 would crawl down hill so slow that somtimes I'd need to shift to second to keep the sammy behind me from running me over.  The 4:1 with the auto was awsome.  I could crawl on the rocks with no violent Axle snapping clutch work.  The 4:1 would also allow up shifts to second on ANY hill.   ;)  It rocked.  THe welded rear diff worked extreemly well and was transparent off road, but presented lots of Body roll on road from the short rear lower control arms pivoting upwards in the turns.  Gotta lock the front to make the bigger ledge rock climbs.  Once I lift a front tire I might as well be in 2wd.  
    I still have some bugs to play with and I'm still fine tuning the suspension.   (Looking for Cherokee 3" lift fornt coils C H E A P ).  Over all the current suspension set up works smooth and provides good travel at speed on the trail.  The coils soak up the bumps SOOO well.  On extreem down hills as the trucks weight shifts forward, the front springs would still bottom alot.  I think the rate is good but the legnth could be longer, maybe +2 more.  I am still riding low in the travel also the springs might have settled some.   Only tire rub all weekend was just lightly on the rear of the frame up front (Frame below the a-pilar, actual frame rail) at full stuff / full lock.

Enough of me rambeling here's the pics.  (5 per post)      

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_1876.jpg)

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_1948.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_1949.jpg)

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_1977.jpg)

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_1978.jpg)

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: whitfield on October 21, 2004, 05:51:43 PM

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DSC00132.jpg)

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DSC00133.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_1979.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_2007.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_2008.jpg)

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: whitfield on October 21, 2004, 05:52:48 PM

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DSC00146.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_2009.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_2010.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_2012.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_2013.jpg)

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: whitfield on October 21, 2004, 05:53:41 PM

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_2014.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_2015.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DSC00147.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DSC00148.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DSC00149.jpg)

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: whitfield on October 21, 2004, 05:54:32 PM

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DSC00111.jpg)

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DSC00112.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DSC00134.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/HPIM0172.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/HPIM0173.jpg)

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: whitfield on October 21, 2004, 06:00:30 PM

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/HPIM0174.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/HPIM0175.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/HPIM0176.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/HPIM0177.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/HPIM0178.jpg)

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: whitfield on October 21, 2004, 06:00:59 PM

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/HPIM0179.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/HPIM0181.jpg)


(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DSCF0118.jpg)

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: whitfield on October 21, 2004, 06:37:23 PM

Here is a few pics of the 3 guys from home who came along for the ride.  

Lonnie 87 Sammy (local Mud Bogg champ 02, 03, 04) on 38" Hawgs 1.6 8v carbed Locked & loaded

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/HPIM0170.jpg)



Jerry 87 Sammy on 36" TSL's  Multi port 16v Beater locked & loaded.

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_1999.jpg)



Woody 87 Sammy on 35" Boggers  1.6 16v Locked & loaded

(http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/DCP_1877.jpg)

The full set of event photos is available for viewing at

http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/

Then Select the Fall 2004 Pic. to view all 235

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: SiKiD_01 on October 21, 2004, 10:50:47 PM

correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems to me that your 4 door has a lot of usable travel front and back, but the actual ride height is pretty average.

clearance is good, but only if you have travel to compliment. travel without clearance may somtimes work against you? esp. with IFS.

great pics. love your work.
STeve

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: whitfield on October 21, 2004, 11:11:56 PM

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correct me if i'm wrong, but it seems to me that your 4 door has a lot of usable travel front and back, but the actual ride height is pretty average.

clearance is good, but only if you have travel to compliment. travel without clearance may somtimes work against you? esp. with IFS.

great pics. love your work.
STeve

thanks, But I'm a little confused on your question...  :-/

Do you mean:
it seems to me that your 4 door has a lot of clearance front and back, but the actual travel is pretty average.

clearance is good, but only if you have travel to compliment.  Clearance with out travel may somtimes work against you? esp. with IFS.

I am limited to the stock travel in the front.  I have been searching and brainstorming for ideias on a centered front diff and long travel lower A-arms.   This would increase the front trave.   THe modified rear ha good travel and works well.   On the rear I intend to add 1" more of lift, Loose the 1.75" coil spacer, and extend the lower rear link arms to the next hole up in the frame (Under the B-pillar).  

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: Zukipilot on October 22, 2004, 01:25:32 AM

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Nice pics, THANKS  ;D I've got to get over there and ride. Looks like you gor her working good. Keep us updated on the tweeks.

Zig

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: hcgalvin on October 22, 2004, 02:19:57 AM

Ugh I SO have to get my truck into one piece again.

:P

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: Somer on October 22, 2004, 02:36:48 AM

Now thats the way to post pictures!! plenty is good ;D

Great pics. 8)

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: explosivo on October 22, 2004, 04:52:00 AM

Looks like you had a great time. And as posted before, keep us updated on any changes you're making :)

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: jerryp58 on October 22, 2004, 09:28:50 AM

That's some impressive crawling.

Very  8) pics.

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on October 22, 2004, 04:20:12 PM

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([url]http://www.zuwharrie.com/gallery/albums/userpics/fall_2004/HPIM0176.jpg[/url])

The problem I see hear is the short rear arm is lifting the front. Mine used to do that a lot.

Mike

BTW cool pics man, When you post pics you dont mess around!

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: jagular7 on October 23, 2004, 05:25:26 AM

It's the same symptom of the TJ's design. When lifting it greater than 4" or more, with the front axle hire than the rear axle, the rear axle will crawl underneath the vehicle rather than push it, as the rear axles does this, the front gets lighter. That's one of the biggest reasons the aftermarket went with a long arm suspension lift. Not only does this negate (not to 0, but much lesser) the rear axle walk effect, but the design also negates the effect of the track arm design.

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: nc_zuk on October 25, 2004, 04:15:15 AM

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The problem I see hear is the short rear arm is lifting the front. Mine used to do that a lot.

Mike

BTW cool pics man, When you post pics you dont mess around!

That pic is SOOOO deceiving. That was on a STEEP offcamber hilclimb. He was about 2 inches from rolling down the hill :o

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on October 25, 2004, 02:52:27 PM

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That pic is SOOOO deceiving. That was on a STEEP offcamber hilclimb. He was about 2 inches from rolling down the hill :o

That will do it too! ;D I was just noticing how much angle was on the rear lower arm. Mine used to look like that... and then my front would look like that too!  :P ;D I just wanted to make sure he was aware of what a longer lower arm would do. Now that you mentioned it I went back and took a second look... I see it now.

Mike

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: whitfield on October 26, 2004, 01:12:19 AM

Thanks,  Long arm rear is in the works, as well as another spring configuration, locked front, and Bumpers.

Title: Re: Zuwharrie 4-dr Action pics
Post by: lil_Truck on October 26, 2004, 01:40:32 PM

Nice Pictures.  Thanks.