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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: johnjx on February 24, 2008, 10:36:37 PM
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okay so another question about IFS and cv joints. but this one is actually one that'll help right now not in the future
whats the highest suspension lift/coil spacer lift the IFS can handle including the cv joints and a-arm's without too much stress?
also with 31's whats the most likely part stock to break on a suzuki besides the rear axel?
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I dont think your going to break a rear axle with 31s.
If you had a locker up in the front with bigger tires you would possibly break a CV.
It all depends on how hard you drive your rig, if you are smart about it and are not puttin it to the floor board everywhere you go.
Im not sure about how high you can go before you run into CV angle problems.
Amilla
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i'm pretty smart. just get on the gas when i need to, but not hard like bombingjust creeping in mud or on a slippery trail
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Dont lift the front much more than 2" without dropping the front diff. After that you start getting close to the limist of your CV's and will start over extending them (if you drop the strut when lifting) and the inner CV will start pulling past it's retainer clip. A good check is to do your lift, pull off your CV boot and make sure you have some clearance at full droop and wheel at full turn. If your CV bearings are not touching the retainer clip, you should be fine with 31's.
Zig
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First thing to break with 31s for me was the mounting bracket (aluminum) on the front diff. Easy on the skinny pedal when in reverse.
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okay i was planning on just gettiung a 2 inch coil spacer lift. then get a 4.5'' calmini suspension lift. is there any furoms on how to drop the diff?and besdies the dropping and checking by taKING THE BOOT OFF IS THERE ANY MODIFIcation i should be looking for the suspension lift?
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Taking the boot off to check CV travel only requires a stready hand when cutting the retainer strap (that holds the boot in place) and a kit form Auto Zone to re attach the boot. The biggest concern when liftin gyour IFS is to keep the CV's in as close to stock travel as possible.
For example, When I upgraded from my Calmini 2" lift to the 3" lift, I decised to keep my upper strut mount inverted when using the upper strut drop bracket supplied with the kit, That extra 2" caused me to waste many CV's do to over extending before I put it back to Calmini's design and it worked fine.
If you do thier lift and install it accordingto their design, you should not have issues with over extending, you will run into that issue when you add longer struts (or space the stock ones down to far and extra coil spacers.
Are you dong the Calmini 2.5" suspension lift for Vitara's? If so it already comes with all of the required brackets for strut and diff relocation. The only issue I can see you running into is if you use the coil spacers with the 2.5" lift, then you will probably ride rough and not have much, if any down travel.
Zig
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huh interesting. thats cool that the kits come with the requirments.:) well to be honest. i really want 6'' of travel. and have 31's. and i was going to get 2'' coil spacers. just to give my tires a break from being so close to my frame and rubbing. then i was going to buy a 4.5'' calmini suspensionj lift and re order 1.5 coil spacer so i am at a solid 6'' not 6.5''. how does that sound?do i need to buy/make anything?or will the calmini come with the parts and instructions for the cv?
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huh interesting. thats cool that the kits come with the requirments.:) well to be honest. i really want 6'' of travel. and have 31's. and i was going to get 2'' coil spacers. just to give my tires a break from being so close to my frame and rubbing. then i was going to buy a 4.5'' calmini suspensionj lift and re order 1.5 coil spacer so i am at a solid 6'' not 6.5''. how does that sound?do i need to buy/make anything?or will the calmini come with the parts and instructions for the cv?
As far as I know calmini don't make a 4.5" suspension lift, they have a 3" and a 3" body lift it bought together they call it a 6" combo. If they do make this lift it's not on there site yet, but I would sure like to see one
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ya they do low range 4x4 i think sells them or the calmini website
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okay i was planning on just gettiung a 2 inch coil spacer lift. then get a 4.5'' calmini suspension lift.
After couple threads on considering the YJ springs.... You're now considering this? Cant make up your mind? :)
BTW Calmini makes 2.5" susp lift not 4.5". There's aloooooooot of informations on this website, I suggest you to search first before starting a thread which has already been covered.
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Zukination makes a 4.5" kit.
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thnks i knew i saw a 4.5 kit somewhare maybe it was calmini.
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Taking the boot off to check CV travel only requires a stready hand when cutting the retainer strap (that holds the boot in place) and a kit form Auto Zone to re attach the boot. The biggest concern when liftin gyour IFS is to keep the CV's in as close to stock travel as possible. Zig
I just take off the circlip from under the FWH and then make sure that I can still pull the spline through properly at full droop and full lock.
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Zukination makes a 4.5" kit.
There's Calmini 2.5 and 6"
Zukination 3 suspension lifts kit I believe.
Old man Emu 2"
Zillaoffroad 6.5"
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zukination has the 3 inch and 4.5. and i believe if i remember a 1.5 or 2'' as well. ware did u see the calmini 6''?
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Zukination has 3, 4, and 4.5" SUSPENSION lift kits. You can also get a 2 or 3" BODY lift from them and probably clear 33" tires with some sort of combo.
Calmini has 2" and 3" SUSPENSION lift kits. You can also get a 3" BODY lift kit from them.
Rocky Road has a bunch of different things like 1 1/8" spring spacers, OME coils and struts, etc. Do some research, it's all out there.
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i'm trying to stay away from the body lifts. just sticking with the suspension lift's. whare i come from we need more travel then anything. not a whole lot of mud, just plenty of water and mud but more trials and stuff
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I hear you, the trails are the same where I am. You could get the 4.5" suspension lift, but if I was in your shoes I would just go with the 4" kit, it's like $1000 cheaper for half an inch less lift. The only thing is it doesn't include new A-arms, but I talked to Zukination and they said factory alignment specs can still be reached without new arms.