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Title: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: Carnage on April 15, 2008, 08:53:05 AM
Theres a good chance Im going to be doing transmission work soon

so...
while the transmission and engine are spending time apart

what else can (should) i replace in the meantime?


transmission filter
clutch
gears

(gonna be a first for me)
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: Zukipilot on April 15, 2008, 10:08:23 AM
Drink a beer, eat a burger, drink another beer, take your favorite lady to a movie,drink another beer,  go surfing, drink another beer, bungie jump into a volcano, drink another beer, go home and pass out thinking about what to do to your truck tomorrow  :laugh:

 :P Zig  :P
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: Zukipilot on April 15, 2008, 10:10:21 AM
OK really  ;) depending on the mileage and abuse your ride has gone through since the last clutch, I would consider replacing it if it is getting old and a rear main seal while you have it apart.

Zig
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: Carnage on April 15, 2008, 11:53:57 AM
what about the transmission filter?


what are my choices for clutch replacements?

(if its too much to list, you can put a link to the info)





and for the record... bungie jumping into a volcano would be kick ass
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: bzzr2 on April 15, 2008, 12:32:55 PM
beer is for after surfing... beer before surfing = lazy surfer!
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: mic on April 15, 2008, 12:42:27 PM
No filter for a manual. ;)
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: Carnage on April 15, 2008, 12:47:25 PM
No filter for a manual. ;)


sorry

95 4 door kick
auto trans, 4wd



beer is for after surfing... beer before surfing = lazy surfer!


dunno bout lazy

but beer before surfing = all you gon catch is sand
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: mic on April 15, 2008, 12:49:11 PM
I posted then read you had a auto, my bad. >:(
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: Carnage on April 15, 2008, 01:04:50 PM
I posted then read you had a auto, my bad. >:(

no worries, it was mbad for not putting it down
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: RHodge on April 15, 2008, 06:12:33 PM
what kind of work need to be done to the trany
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: Carnage on April 15, 2008, 06:22:03 PM
i dont want to jinx it
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Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: bentparts on April 15, 2008, 07:53:08 PM
If you don't have the shop full of special tools required to service an auto trans internally, I'd take Zukipilot's advice in his first post. Let a pro do it. Stick to changing the fluids and filter, and let someone who knows what their doing tear into it. My 2 cents.
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: Carnage on April 15, 2008, 07:58:07 PM
If you don't have the shop full of special tools required to service an auto trans internally, I'd take Zukipilot's advice in his first post. Let a pro do it. Stick to changing the fluids and filter, and let someone who knows what their doing tear into it. My 2 cents.


a pro and his tools are helping me do it

the engine and trans will be apart


i dont want to take the entire trans apart but whats this i hear about different clutches?
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: bashzuk on April 15, 2008, 08:00:09 PM
Why it's fun to chase all those little balls around your shop floor.
esp when they end up under your steel shelving that has just enough clearance for the valving balls and not your magnet to get them.
Which is why I'm a manual kind of guy all the way. big gear disc's are harder to lose.
:) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: phloop on April 15, 2008, 09:26:08 PM
Can some one buy fancy up-graded clutch disks for a Kick auto in the first place? ???

How about a torque converter and valve body for the same tranny?
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: Carnage on April 15, 2008, 09:38:17 PM
Can some one buy fancy up-graded clutch disks for a Kick auto in the first place? ???

How about a torque converter and valve body for the same tranny?

i dont need top-of-the-line, just better

so suggest away

pics and info would be great too

but at the very least leave a link so i can read
(since im not that transmission savy)



ive heard something about a Centerforce Dual friction clutch kit
not really sure what that entails, so if anyone has info pls share
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: mic on April 16, 2008, 05:13:48 AM
There maybe a shift kit available, it remaps your valve body a bit giving you firmer shifts. Try "B&M shift kits". ???
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: Carnage on April 18, 2008, 09:27:39 AM
how are the clutches on ebay?


theres an EXEDY one for $130

a STAGE 2 for $165

and a STAGE 3 for $215
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: derekj on April 19, 2008, 09:07:24 AM
how are the clutches on ebay?


theres an EXEDY one for $130

a STAGE 2 for $165

and a STAGE 3 for $215

These are for standard transmissions. I have a transmission parts catalog at my shop - will check to see if any valve body kits are availible later and post what I find.

Derek
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: Carnage on April 19, 2008, 03:31:14 PM
how are the clutches on ebay?


theres an EXEDY one for $130

a STAGE 2 for $165

and a STAGE 3 for $215

These are for standard transmissions. I have a transmission parts catalog at my shop - will check to see if any valve body kits are availible later and post what I find.

Derek


youre right

what would i need for an auto trans from a 95 4dr kick
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: derekj on April 19, 2008, 05:15:27 PM
My catalog does not show any valve body kits for that transmission. Check with your parts suppliers to see what they have.

Derek
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: RHodge on April 19, 2008, 09:00:15 PM
If it works and is not slipping I wouldn't mess with it, But you should at lease put new front pump seal and a rear output shaft seal in it. If it needs work I don't think your going to find performane parts for it, but you should be able to get a good good build kit for it though



Later Ryan
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: geeeeoooo on April 21, 2008, 06:43:20 AM
ya man..id just put whatever new parts in there that ya need....like the clutches and stuff it all back together...considering that you have X ammt. of miles on there already and they lasted this long being oem...but if it was me id put new ft. pump seal and output seal in the trans...im not too familiar with the 4 sp. but i know that my 3 spd. has a selector shaft seal where the shifter goes thru the case...REPLACE THIS!!! i just had to replace my yesterday..and you also may wanna put a new rear main into her as well while ya have it seperated just for good measures....


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Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: Carnage on April 21, 2008, 01:31:14 PM
this is what i have so far

Transmission Filter
Front Pump Seal
Output Seal
Selector Shaft Seal
Rear Main Seal


is there anything im missing?
(the transmission has over 100k)
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Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: geeeeoooo on April 26, 2008, 12:32:08 PM
did ya get her all back together???
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: Carnage on April 26, 2008, 04:19:36 PM
did ya get her all back together???


not yet



is there anything im missing?
(the transmission has over 100k)

this is what i have so far

Transmission Filter
Front Pump Seal
Output Seal
Selector Shaft Seal
Rear Main Seal



Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: geeeeoooo on April 27, 2008, 10:04:09 AM
yessir...if that was me thats about all id do to it...n just a word of advice....look for the rubber trans pan gskt...some parts stores have the cork ones with the filter kit, but after i re-did my stoopid cork gasket about 3 times tryin 2 seal it up, my pops told me to get a rubber gskt....that was about a year ago....not a drip outta the pan!! but just remember...do everything that you possibly can with that whole cluster F...outta the way its so much easier than struggling aginst everything
Title: Re: If you had to work on the transmission... what else would you do?
Post by: Carnage on April 27, 2008, 12:42:30 PM
yessir...if that was me thats about all id do to it...n just a word of advice....look for the rubber trans pan gskt...some parts stores have the cork ones with the filter kit, but after i re-did my stoopid cork gasket about 3 times tryin 2 seal it up, my pops told me to get a rubber gskt....that was about a year ago....not a drip outta the pan!! but just remember...do everything that you possibly can with that whole cluster F...outta the way its so much easier than struggling aginst everything


roger that
 :)