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Title: You can never go too far with your build
Post by: Uncivilized on August 04, 2008, 11:53:02 AM
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Title: Re: You can never go too far with your build
Post by: beercheck on August 04, 2008, 11:58:57 AM
No way that thing gets enough exhaust backpressure to run.




Edit:  I didn't think this would be necessary, but....

*SARCASM ALERT*

I'm always jumping on people when they toss the silly backpressure comments out there.  To wit:  http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=22317.msg185390#msg185390 (http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=22317.msg185390#msg185390)
Title: Re: You can never go too far with your build
Post by: phloop on August 04, 2008, 12:55:54 PM
2.3 to 2.7 seconds in the less than 180 feet, seems to run OK to me.
Title: Re: You can never go too far with your build
Post by: Jeremiah on August 04, 2008, 02:44:58 PM
Impressive. That would be neat to watch on those wall climbs the Icelanders seem to like so much.
Title: Re: You can never go too far with your build
Post by: captchee on August 04, 2008, 07:32:40 PM
No way that thing gets enough exhaust backpressure to run.

sure it does . theres no emissions .
  Why would you run such on that . It would defeat the purpose of   getting every possible  drop of power
 Its built to run like an engine should not with all the  baloney added to it .
 I bet he also doesn’t care if he only gets .1 MPG  either  .
Also seems smart enough to know how to cam an engine  and tune the heads  as well as throw away all the crud he doesn’t need  over  thinking itll still work as good  if he leaves it on .
IE proper modification
Title: Re: You can never go too far with your build
Post by: mlovetripp0 on August 04, 2008, 07:45:32 PM
wow looks like i need to strech mine :o
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/mlovetripp/mudstock08112.jpg)
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/mlovetripp/07-01-08_2059.jpg)
my pipes are pretty short and it runs fine
Title: Re: You can never go too far with your build
Post by: pepatt on August 04, 2008, 08:05:33 PM
No way that thing gets enough exhaust backpressure to run.

Ah, so soon you forget Newton's  little-known 54th Law of (offroading) Motion :
Insanely increased front pressure = increased back pressure

 ;D
Title: Re: You can never go too far with your build
Post by: Basher on August 04, 2008, 10:04:37 PM
zoomies?, top fuel run em, they seem to run pretty good too, how many drag racers run straight headers ? not much different, backpressure isnt good on a full on wide open throttle, high rpm engine
Title: Re: You can never go too far with your build
Post by: MUD CHILD on August 04, 2008, 10:17:21 PM
That thing loos like a fun ride!!!
Title: Re: You can never go too far with your build
Post by: beercheck on August 05, 2008, 07:51:06 AM
No way that thing gets enough exhaust backpressure to run.




Edit:  I didn't think this would be necessary, but....

*SARCASM ALERT*

I'm always jumping on people when they toss the silly backpressure comments out there.  To wit:  [url]http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=22317.msg185390#msg185390[/url] ([url]http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=22317.msg185390#msg185390[/url])



Fixed it for you numbskulls... 

Glad to see you called me out, though.
Title: Re: You can never go too far with your build
Post by: Drone637 on August 05, 2008, 11:05:10 AM
514 CI Alcohol Injected BB Ford pushing 940+ HP... now that would be fun at a stop light.  :D
Title: Re: You can never go too far with your build
Post by: captchee on August 05, 2008, 01:06:22 PM
zoomies?, top fuel run em, they seem to run pretty good too, how many drag racers run straight headers ? not much different, backpressure isnt good on a full on wide open throttle, high rpm engine

 
 no foul here  beer check  , i knew what you were saying .

 see here is the deal . while many  very high performance engines today  run electronics . those electronics are set up for that engine . Very few to NONE need back pressure  to make the sensor work
 you dont need all the Bla Bla that a  factory  engine comes with .

 the more  sensors you have obviously the better one can tune the engine  through the ECM . But that doesn’t mean the engine will not run without them . for that  mater  the ECM  will  adjust things with only minimum sensors.
  When I converted my first engine to  TBI , I only ran the map , O2 ,, temp  and oil . that’s excluding the TPS and such  that the TBI needs .  I used a WY  ECM with the matching harness . a TBI  that came from an engine that was as close as I could get in displacement and I cut out ever wire that did  was not needed  for the  components I was running .
 That did away with about 75% of the size of the harness .
 The engine runs fine with  just those and it throws no codes past a code 12.
 But I don’t have to  pass emissions tests either

 However when you start adding in all the other hogwash that  is used for factory emissions equipment , IE , EGR’s , Canisters . Vac filters and such . then things can go a foul in a hurry  if those items don’t get what they need to work properly .
 As such a smart person will do alittle research   and proper backwards planning prior to a modification 
IE a cause and effect.  by asking one’s self ; self , if I  modify  A , will it have any effect on B.C.D, E .
 If  the answer is no to all but E then  one should ask ; self do I need E and if I get rid of E , will it effect B.C,D. if the answer is NO then Yank that Bugger out of there
“Notice ,,, Laws permitting of course “
 If the answer is yes  it will effect BCD then  one needs to ask , do I need BCD .
 If the answer is no , then get rid of all of them .
 But if the answer is yes ???? Then one needs to consider  not doing the modification to A

 There is frankly so much baloney on  factory cars   that’s not needed for an engine to run  , its un real . Heck , depending on the distributor electronics   you don’t even need an ECM  if your  running a carb  and emissions isn’t a factor and you can keep the electronic dizzy

 However  when those things are not taken into consideration  when doing a  modification , then they can and often do effect  how the engine runs .
  Who needs all those vacuum lines ? All one really needs is just a crank case breather / vent .
Of course unless something else runs of those vacuum lines  or is engineered  so as to  work properly  while sharing vacuum 

 ;)