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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: NEW_ZUKER on August 11, 2008, 02:42:42 AM
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So I havnt written here in like forever, Ive been a bit buisy with basic training and the Army!! So now Im in the "beautiful hillsides of afghanistan" on my 15 month paid vacation, and an Infantryman, may I add. Anyways, im gonna totally fix up my other hard top zuk and Ive got a big question about these side draft intake systems. Iknow they dont stall on inclines, a big plus, and that they add HP. Other than that i found one guy that sells the full kit on ebay for like $1500 :laugh: yeah I know right, I can buy like 3 sammys for that much money!!! Or throw a V8 in the damn thing. Ive heard realy good things about the Hawk strickly suzuki stuff, and the Samuraiguy.com stuff, but i cant find any info on the Hawks' site, and can't even find the Samuraiguy.com site. Any info on where I can get one of these, for less than the price of a first born child?? thanks a lot, I missed you zuk guys a ton!
current parts ordered for the the "project";
Engin rebuild
Rocky Road 8in. lift+ coil conv. (deluxe system)
Trail Crawler 6.5 T-case gears
Calmini "C3" front bumper
Calmini rear bumper+tire carrier
33x9.5r15 BFG ATs
Cragar 15x8x3.75 street lock rims (are these a little too wide, or too much backspacing?)
Trail Tough full skid plate
working on getting better T-case mount; power steering; Birfield rings; rear disc conv. and some other junk
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Go with the kit, it's got everything you need, and will wake up your Sammy and make it fly. And, BTW, keep your head down and your eyes open !
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Before you spend that kind of coin on a sidedraft system check out the MS1 and MS2 set-ups from ZOR. They use either a 40mm or 44mm HD side draft CV carb. I just replaced my weber with a MS2/Screaming Eagle 44mm carb and it runs way good now. Have just under half of what that side draft will cost you and that includes a couple of tools I needed.
Try this http://www.zuksoffroad.net/samurai_engine.htm (http://www.zuksoffroad.net/samurai_engine.htm) .
Be safe over there.
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WOW I totaly forgot about ZOR what the heck was I thinking ??? Well both systems look pretty bad ass, and the price is definately better on the my-side systems. But which one of these would give me the greater power?? And is the powder difference really worth the extra moolah? I might drive this thing to local OHV parks and what nots, so I definately want more power (who doesnt right ::) ) And plus, I live in the mostly pinko-commi, liberal, ass licking state of CA, so they dont really like the military, hunters, firearms, and you need a smog check everytime you start your freaking truck. (cheater pipes rule) so I do need the greater possibility of passing smog checks.
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And is the powder difference really worth the extra moolah?
For $1500, I'd consider a turbo or engine swap (or both). I think the ZOR kit is $400, but it's incomplete. Not sure how much the Audi or VW (or whatever it is) parts cost in addition to the kit. For that $$$, I'd rather get lockers or better tires... especially if you need to deal with smog.
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WOW I totaly forgot about ZOR what the heck was I thinking ??? Well both systems look pretty bad ass, and the price is definately better on the my-side systems. But which one of these would give me the greater power?? And is the powder difference really worth the extra moolah? I might drive this thing to local OHV parks and what nots, so I definately want more power (who doesnt right ::) ) And plus, I live in the mostly pinko-commi, liberal, ass licking state of CA, so they dont really like the military, hunters, firearms, and you need a smog check everytime you start your freaking truck. (cheater pipes rule) so I do need the greater possibility of passing smog checks.
Do you have annual smog checks? Or is it just when selling\buying a rig that you have to pass a smog check.
In the part of cali live in you only have to worry about a smog check when buying a rig. If you are worried about smog checks you can always keep the stock carb and slap it back on there to pass your emissions test. It would defiantly be a pain in the ars having to do that regularly....but it is cali nothing about this state is simple.
Amilla
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Do you have annual smog checks? Or is it just when selling\buying a rig that you have to pass a smog check.
Buy / Sell, and every 2 years for me.
In the part of cali live in you only have to worry about a smog check when buying a rig.
Where is this? I might have to "move" there myself?
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Instead of the Birfield rings you might want to just pick up a set of Chromoly axles from Trail Tough. :)
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The thing about the engine swap and turbo kit (dont get me wrong bigger is allways better, and I have a trd on my tundra, and mom's got a Lingenfelter Z06) but I want to do this under the vehicles own power, just to prove that I can!! and I'm starting to lean towards the side draft for 1500.... And it wont be all that bad, im getting a bit more change for getting shot at and not just sitting in garrison, so I might as well build it so I dont have to be wanting to change anything when i get back. and the chromoly axles... I was thinking about that and thought that the rings would hold up to 33's, but if Im told otherwise, then chromoly here I come
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For 33", get the chromoly from TT. They're normally $500, but they're on sale for $250. You can make up for the lack of power with t-case gearing.
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YEAH looks like Im going to have me a new set of axles then ;) And I allready have some 6.5 t-case gears from Rocky Road getting installed as we speak. and on payday, I'm totaly going with the side drafts, I hat stalling on inclines, and it looks as though this one gets more power than the my fi, and it looks cooler :laugh: yeah I know what oyu all are thinking, but Im still a kid, let me do my thing :'(
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YEAH looks like Im going to have me a new set of axles then ;)
Yep, I ordered a pair. Just haven't bothered to install them. But they make great spares. :D The advantage of the TT axles is you don't have to buy the Heavy Duty axle shafts separately to compliment your birfield rings. You also don't need to grind out the inside of your knuckle. :)
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Do you have annual smog checks? Or is it just when selling\buying a rig that you have to pass a smog check.
Buy / Sell, and every 2 years for me.
In the part of cali live in you only have to worry about a smog check when buying a rig.
Where is this? I might have to "move" there myself?
Eureka CA
Good ol true Northern California, home of the lost coast.
Amilla
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I've been through your neighborhood a few times. Never wheeled there though. I'm down near Sacrametno, CA.
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And is the powder difference really worth the extra moolah?
For $1500, I'd consider a turbo or engine swap (or both). I think the ZOR kit is $400, but it's incomplete. Not sure how much the Audi or VW (or whatever it is) parts cost in addition to the kit. For that $$$, I'd rather get lockers or better tires... especially if you need to deal with smog.
The powder coating is only on the MS2, the MS1 is an adaptor that bolts where the carb bolts to. The ZOR kit is $250 for the MS and $299 for the MS2. And the only thing missing in MY's kit is the carb. If you by the new carb from him he will mod it for you as well. The only thing I needed to by was a thermostat and a couple of hose clamps to replace the funky stock hose clamps.
And with the CV sidedraft carb you do not have any fuel issues as you can get with the weber. I think you may not be happy with the $$ spent on the side draft system you are looking at for it's performance return.
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OK now Im at a dilema, which one to get. Il see how much crap I gotta pay of, and if i got the money I need for a side draft, then side draft it is. If not, then my-fi here I come. On a lighter note, my RRO coil conversion / 8in lift came in yesterday (to the cousins house) and it looks amazing. Great welds, great materials, all around awesome. My coils aren't in yet, I called Kyle over at RRO and I requested some higher rate springs from him, for all the extra bumper, spare tire weight. Hope you guys like it.
Oh and I'm thinking of powerdcoating it all like a black or dark grey. How should I "treat" the diffs??? Any suggestions, something durable, and "cool" looking. I do have about 3 gallons of bed-liner at home, if anyone can point me in the right direction.
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more pics
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OK LAST THREE ::)
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Looks good. :)
I would just paint the bottom parts with some primer and spray paint. That way when you scrape the coating off on the rocks it is easy to re-paint to the same color. :)
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Yeah that sounds like a good idea, cuz I damn sure will be scraping the bottom of that thing across every rock in the western USA!!! And there is no point ruining perfectly good powercoat.
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Ok, money came in, and since I have a whole lotta stuff to take care of back home, I went with the my-side II intake. its a hell of a lot cheaper, and I have yet to hear a single complaint about it. I also got the t-case and tranny bushings that are made of brass from ZOR, has anyone tried these things, are they good?? I'm sort of getting tired of carrying spare bushings.
Also does anyon know....
- go with a dual battery mount, or move electicity to the back??
- a good intake/snorkel system. I dont mind going pvc pipe, but I prefer pre-made.
- tube door, I saw a topic about one of the guys here that made them, and they look bad a$$
- Rhino line the entire inside/outside, or just inside?
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I have the brass shifter sheet in my T-case. It made a huge difference in how my T-case shifted, super smooth and solid feeling. Defiantly a good upgrade!
Amilla
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Some club members are running the aluminum t-case bushings. The only issue is if your drive lines vibrate at all, usually due to u-joints going out, you get a lot of noise transmitted to the chassis.
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Did you buy the new carb with the MS2 or are you looking for a used one? For your tube doors both TT and Desertrunnerfab makes a set.
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Yeah I got the new 44mm carb to go with the package. Should be fun to get home and see how much of a difference that makes. Thanks for the info on the doors il go and check that out now. And im not too worried about the driveline vibes cuz of u-joints, I love all my trucks, and take better care of them than myself :) you guys know exactly what i mean 8)