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Title: Winch Wiring question
Post by: SNJSamurai on October 30, 2008, 08:43:40 PM
well some of you know i just got a winch and im building a bumper for it but i just realize i got to focus little bit on how im going to wire this nasty winch. should i put a on and off switch between the positive cable? the winch it self can not be activated with out the remote but wasnt sure if i should leave constant power to it at all times?

thank you bob

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Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: mic on October 30, 2008, 09:03:46 PM
I thought you needed the remote in to complete the circuit. I could be wrong, but I've had my winch submerged with no shorts activating it.
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: SNJSamurai on October 30, 2008, 09:19:38 PM
the directions say to connect the winch directly to the battery. so i considered that its having constant power to it. but the winch can not operate unless the remote is plugged in. so i guess it does complete the circuit.

im not worried about anything happening in the water. im just worried about someone messing with it or if there's a remote malfunction
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: aimholder on October 30, 2008, 09:31:46 PM
i would run some sort of switch if it were me   maybe a quik disconnect 

better safe then sorry 
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: mic on October 30, 2008, 09:31:58 PM
Big "little" trucks seem to draw attention and accessories like winches always draw curios hands. I guess for safety,maintenance, or a malfunction an extra switch wouldn't hurt. Company's make them so why not use them.
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: SNJSamurai on October 30, 2008, 09:37:03 PM
yea i think i should. im going to try to get a ford solenoid from work i probably have one in my used good parts box lol (im a ford tech).

with the solenoid i can have a toggle switch in the glove box and that will activate the solenoid that will give the winch power.


thanks again bob
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: pepatt on October 30, 2008, 09:38:36 PM
Here you go...

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92688 (http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92688)

I use this for my fishing boat.
Cheap too.  :D
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: aimholder on October 30, 2008, 09:39:45 PM
you can run something like this to the bumper or  someplace    you mount one side to the bumper that holds your connection wires the other side is simply a lo0p

(http://www.kenlowe.com.au/_borders/electr29.jpg)


or you can run one of those switches like on the back of stock cars  
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: aimholder on October 30, 2008, 09:43:21 PM
Here you go...

[url]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92688[/url] ([url]http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92688[/url])

I use this for my fishing boat.
Cheap too.  :D


this is what i was looking for 
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: SNJSamurai on October 30, 2008, 09:53:53 PM
ill need a heavier duty switch. that only handles 100 amps the instructions says the winch can pull almost 400 amps so i need a solenoid type style. like what u said aimholder the things on the back of the stock cars
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: aimholder on October 30, 2008, 10:02:33 PM
ill need a heavier duty switch. that only handles 100 amps the instructions says the winch can pull almost 400 amps so i need a solenoid type style. like what u said aimholder the things on the back of the stock cars


i used one that was running  60 volts through it  not sure how many amps that is  and ive seen them handle 96 and over 

both the quick disconnect and the switches   popular in lowrider hoppers  for when solenoids stick 
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: SNJSamurai on October 30, 2008, 10:10:58 PM
yea i just don't want the switch to decide to fry lol that would suck. i'm going to go to my buddys race shop see if has anything laying around just need to bring a large cup of coffee and shoot the s*** and he'll let me get anything almost


oh yea can we curse on this forum?
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: aimholder on October 30, 2008, 10:15:34 PM
ive never seen a switch fry      ive seen motors catch fire and selenoids too  but ive never seen a switch fail   

i would go with the quick disconnect and some 0 gauge wire if your worried

no way for that to fail 

gimme a second and ill get pics for you of how they mount them
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: mic on October 30, 2008, 10:38:30 PM
I've used the quick disconnects like the ones posted by aimholder on high capacity pallet jacks. Never had one burn out. The best part would be when you don't plan to use the winch pull it(the disconnect)apart and no power can go to the winch.
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: aimholder on October 30, 2008, 10:43:17 PM
ive seen them  used on 14 battery setups  and never a problem     i can find a pic of how they mount them  which makes sense since they use them to clean up theyr setups   


but basicly you drill some holes and bolt it to the bumper   

and like mic said  you simply pull it when you dont need it
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: Drone637 on October 31, 2008, 08:28:06 AM
Having an emergency shut off on your winch is a good idea.  I almost burned my winch up when a solenoid locked open when pulling up the hill and had to pull the battery.  If it was me I would put the switch under the hood and just leave the winch on full time.  I have never had my winch run off on it's own on me and it saves time when winching.   Roadless Gear has a winch control setup you can easily wire into your winch for in dash control you might light to check out over here (http://www.roadlessgear.com/page/RGL/PROD/R/RG631).

When you wire it, I would go to the top post on the battery instead of the side.  The side posts are usually connected via a copper strip to the top post.  If it is a cheap battery or your connection is a little loose you will generate to much heat and melt the side post off.

For the winch, I would reach up with a welder after everything is bolted down and put a tack on a bolt or two.  That will stop interested fingers from walking off with it unless they are carrying around a grinder in their back pocket.
Title: Re: Winch Wiring question
Post by: SNJSamurai on October 31, 2008, 11:00:12 PM
you guys have great points. so def going to put some type of emergency cut off switch.

and good ideal about the tack welds

ill let you guys know what i ended up doing later