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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Mike71 on September 10, 2004, 02:01:04 PM
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ok so kimbal and i are going to lenghthen the wheel base on my zuke
were not going to argue about how much or how it should be done..its going to be done so lets just argue on how to make the sheet metal loo the best :-*
but what i need help with is pictures..id like to kind of make it like those new truck/suv thingys retain the 4 seats but add on a bed in the back
kimball has some ideas but i just was wondering if people had some pictures of things they thought looked cool. what im trying to stay away from is that kind of half finished i did it in the dark look
there will be a ton of other modifications but id prefer not to discuss them (kimball keep ur mouth shut! =) lol)
partly because i want it to be a suprised but partly because i dont want to be flamed..
kimball is the man that is going to be doing this so any technical questions will have to be aimed in his directions..so let the pics and suggestions fly =)
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Heres a couple of my buddies zook. It is extended by 14" in the rear. he built a 4 link coil setup fo it with toyota axels.
(http://www.xtreme4x4s.com/Gallery/pictures/valzook1.jpg)
(http://www.xtreme4x4s.com/Gallery/pictures/Greg_showShine1.jpg)
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is that extended front and rear??..doesnt look to long i like it ;D
thanks for the pics..but i dont think my idea for the sporttrack type setup will work..unless we make it WAY longer
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looks sweet, nice work
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Two words.
Ref Erences.
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Two words.
Ref Erences.
wtf??
anyways..so i was measuring tonite
from the center of the wheels its like 87" so i assume thats the wheel base?? so adding 12 or even 18" to that wont be enough to make any thing remotely cool for a bed..it will look like an after thought...
i want this thing to wheel but i want it to look right also..that is very important to me otherwise id just chop it all to s$#t and make a buggy
so what is a "good" wheel base i have heard 110" is optimum...i know theres no real right answer but just some numbers to go on...i was thinking about just making the frame longer but leaving the body the same..so id have to work the extra frame into the bumpers..dont know how that would look
and no i dont want to switch to a 4 door lol
worst comes to worst i guess i can just chop the back half off and make it a real 2 seater..i dunno i like the feel of 4 seats
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HIJACK!!!
Man I dig those tube doors!!! ;)
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One thing I have seen that really cleans up the rear of the Zuk is diamondplate. A friend of mine did this to his Zuk and I think it really cleaned up those cut fender lines
(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/yota_wheeler/Fend02.jpg)
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so what is a "good" wheel base i have heard 110" is optimum...i know theres no real right answer but just some numbers to go on...
Depends what wheeling you're planning on doing. A long wheelbase is going to have a seriously reduced break over angle. I like the idea though, I would like to do something like that to a LWB Tracker, make it long enough to have a respectable sized bed.
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HIJACK!!!
Man I dig those tube doors!!! ;)
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One thing I have seen that really cleans up the rear of the Zuk is diamondplate. A friend of mine did this to his Zuk and I think it really cleaned up those cut fender lines
([url]http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/yota_wheeler/Fend02.jpg[/url])
If your buddy cut out more of the original sheetmetal, curved the diamond to be closer to the tire to be more of a wheelwell, he could have installed a storage box in that original wheelwell area, or a cooler. Just a thought.
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ok..so what were thinking now is making it a 2 seater only..but a kind of extended cab..so ud have the 2 froont seats and..lets back to the middle of the wheel wells a little closer to the back of the front seats..the tail gate would then be welded in there and a kind of removable shell will be made to go here..itl use like toyota truck rear glass or something similar
the frame will be stretched..not sure how much but there will probably be a 48" bed on the back
itl sit on 37" rubber 13.5" wide i think??? no body lift just sus lift..
i was wondering if someone was any good with photoshop..and could they make a rough pic of what the above described rig would look like?? i have a hard time imagining it
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LWB sammi with semi crew cab conversion:
(http://www.rhinoman.org/images/images/sean01.jpg)
(http://www.rhinoman.org/images/images/sean02.jpg)
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why not just start with a 4 door???
stu
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because i want a convertable..sometimes the easy route is to easy...that sammy looks nice
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ok..so what were thinking now is making it a 2 seater only..but a kind of extended cab..so ud have the 2 froont seats and..lets back to the middle of the wheel wells a little closer to the back of the front seats..the tail gate would then be welded in there and a kind of removable shell will be made to go here..itl use like toyota truck rear glass or something similar
why would you want the bed covered?
stu
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I would think what you want to do is to
move the front wheels forward, and the
back wheels rearward, and improve the
approach and departure angles, a longer
over all length is going to work against
you for all around Zuking, in my humble
oppinion
Wild
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well the wheels wil be moved fore and aft..so not alot of lenght will be added to the frame
and no the bed wont be covered..but a removable rear window type deal is what i was talking about to go inplace of the removable top in the rear now
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I think streching it is a good idea for 37s.(you said 37s right?) Are you planning to street it at all? I think 103" is a good length for 37s. It depends on your terrain but I would think if you went much longer than that you would have high centering issues. At least around here you would.
Mike
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and no the bed wont be covered..but a removable rear window type deal is what i was talking about to go inplace of the removable top in the rear now
one of my friends bought a convo kit for his yota a long time ago. you cut most of the roof off and the top pease is a plexyglass. the place he got it from has sence gone out of bidness but that might give you an idea.
stu
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one of my friends bought a convo kit for his yota a long time ago.  you cut most of the roof off and the top pease is a plexyglass.  the place he got it from has sence gone out of bidness but that might give you an idea.
stu
yah that does help stu =)
also mike..i think 100-103 is what kimbal was saying
its super hard to say what kind of wheelin i am going to do because i really havent wheeled very much before lol..but im not the kind of pearson to do something i know i will have to change later..id rather make it the best i can now..i dunno hard to explain
and as of right now it will be a street drivin truck..hence the power plant that will be going into it (top secret) otherwise id stay with the 8v and gear it down
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LWB sammi with semi crew cab conversion:
([url]http://www.rhinoman.org/images/images/sean01.jpg[/url])
([url]http://www.rhinoman.org/images/images/sean02.jpg[/url])
do u happen to have any better side shots..or just more pictures of that one?
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Hmmm SO it should begin to look like this...
http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,8850.15.html
(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/norzuki/carnage09.jpg)
(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/norzuki/frame9.jpg)
Norzuki encolsed his cab with a hard top back door and did the Extended frame over the winter.  THis spring he went with the 1.6L & Toyota's w/rear spool.  Now he is building the bed. ÂÂ
(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/norzuki/norzuki_sig_pic.jpg)
These pics below were posted on the Zuwharrie board Sept 9th. SO he's about right their with ya
(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/norzuki/floor01.jpg)
(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/norzuki/floor02.jpg)
(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/norzuki/floor03.jpg)
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hmm that cab looks better then i had imagined..do u know what he is doing for the bed though??
i cant get my head around how the bed will look..no offense to anyone its just my taste but that orenge sammy up top kinda looks like the bed was an after thought..since im gunna be drivin this thing out side of the trail id like the bed to look a little more finished
not that i dont love the orenge one its just that if i can id like to make it look more factory..
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i cant get my head around how the bed will look..no offense to anyone its just my taste but that orenge sammy up top kinda looks like the bed was an after thought..since im gunna be drivin this thing out side of the trail id like the bed to look a little more finished
not that i dont love the orenge one its just that if i can id like to make it look more factory..
I agree. You could tube the back into a structure that would hold flat side panels cut to the shape of a zuk rear. Even bolt on stock flares to make it look even more natural. ;)
Mike
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go for the factory look....
(http://members.home.nl/xs4two/lwb/stockman.jpg)
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Here is a Sami that was stretched. The attention to detail on this rig is awsome:
(http:// http://stinkyfab.com/images/bugzuki/2/100_0676.JPG)
As Mike stated, you could try this approach with stock looking body panels over the rear tubing. :D
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Here's one for you:
(http://www.cs.umass.edu/~glenn/tracktop_002.jpg)