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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: S.Sidekick on January 27, 2009, 05:48:45 PM
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hey so i recently got my 1.6 16valve cam torque grinded they said it would add 10% no problem but since i have a cold air and header and full exhaust they expect more., but the reason for this post is how hard it to take off the timeing cover and replace the belt. i thought i should do this while im there and does anyone know anything about manually adjusting the rockers? Please let me know if you got anything for me and ill be sure to repay with a nice before and after video :)
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You should have the belt off already if you have the cam out?!?!?!? The belt is easy to do. Just make sure you have so info on lining up the timing marks. Also replace the water pump while the belt is off!
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i got another cam junk yard, lol but my water pump isn't broken. :( but what all needs to come off, i know when i take the cover off just take the clamps off the cam mark the points and remove, but you dont think ill need to take out the radiator do you? or just the shroud and fan?
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10% in top end power, or low end grunt? More often than not, changing a cam profile just moves the power from one to the other. In more extreme cases (High RPM racing cams) it does so at HUGE penalties to bottom-to-mid range power (2:1 and sometimes 3:1 ratios. ie, it takes 2 or 3 Hp / Torque from the low end to get 1 HP/ Torque to top end). Same thing with adjustable cam sprockets. Some people are aware of this, and some aren't. Just thought I'd give you a heads up.
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i got another cam junk yard, lol but my water pump isn't broken. :( but what all needs to come off, i know when i take the cover off just take the clamps off the cam mark the points and remove, but you dont think ill need to take out the radiator do you? or just the shroud and fan?
I realize your water pump is not broken but while you have the timing belt off you might as well replace it cause you have to remove the timing belt to change it later. Just saves some headache. The radiator can stay in. The fan will have to come off. Along with the belts and crank pulley. Then just remove the timing cover, loosen the adjuster and remove the belt. It sounds to me like you haven't done something like this before. I would suggest finding someone to help you or have someone else do this job. This is an important component of your kick.
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+1 to replacing your water pump..... also did you replace your rocker assembly?? I have seen at least 3 motors go to crap because of new cam installation and leaving old rockers. low range 59 bucks..... save yourself a ton of money by replacing them.....also you can get your water pump there.....cheap....
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Don't forget to change your front seal. It sucks when those go out... :(
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ha ha kinda noticable i havent done this lol. but im just trying to work up the balls to do it. i mean this is my only transportation and wit college i kinda dont want to screw it up lol. so let me clarify a little better. the cam is supposed to give me mid range power, (so says the owner of the shop) and things i need to do to set it up right are.
Replace water pump since ill have the belt off
replace rocker assembly
and front seal to water pump
and the procedure involves:
fan removal
water pump removal
belts and pullys
valve cover removal
and those little C clamp shape things that hold in the cam
Mark the timing areas
then replace any gaskets, adjust timing
is that everything? thanks alot guys for the help
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ha ha kinda noticable i havent done this lol. but im just trying to work up the balls to do it. i mean this is my only transportation and wit college i kinda dont want to screw it up lol. so let me clarify a little better. the cam is supposed to give me mid range power, (so says the owner of the shop) and things i need to do to set it up right are.
Replace water pump since ill have the belt off
replace rocker assembly
and front seal to water pump
and the procedure involves:
fan removal
water pump removal
belts and pullys
valve cover removal
and those little C clamp shape things that hold in the cam
Mark the timing areas
then replace any gaskets, adjust timing
is that everything? thanks alot guys for the help
sounds about right.....good luck! and take some pics and shoot us some info on how the cam works out for you!
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I have a theory that mid-grunt cams will do a LOT of good for Suzukis. Especially people running bigger tires. Keep us posted on seat-of-the-pants dyno, MPG etc. And, if you get a chance, post up the specs of the cam. I once got a torquer cam, but sold my zook before I had a chance to install it :'(
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also who is doing the cam for you? and if you dont mind me asking what is the cost?? i need to save some pennies and get one!
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ha ha kinda noticable i havent done this lol. but im just trying to work up the balls to do it. i mean this is my only transportation and wit college i kinda dont want to screw it up lol. so let me clarify a little better. the cam is supposed to give me mid range power, (so says the owner of the shop) and things i need to do to set it up right are.
Replace water pump since ill have the belt off
replace rocker assembly
and front seal to water pump
and the procedure involves:
fan removal
water pump removal
belts and pullys
valve cover removal
and those little C clamp shape things that hold in the cam
Mark the timing areas
then replace any gaskets, adjust timing
is that everything? thanks alot guys for the help
sounds about right.....good luck! and take some pics and shoot us some info on how the cam works out for you!
The front seal is the front crank seal! Not to the water pump!
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haha ok i was going to replace any seal or gasket that comes off, lol but what is the time requirments you guys are thinking for this job??? if its more than a day i will prbably do it over a school break.
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haha ok i was going to replace any seal or gasket that comes off, lol but what is the time requirments you guys are thinking for this job??? if its more than a day i will prbably do it over a school break.
really depends on if you have done it before, if not, but you have a general knowledge of what you are doing it can still be done in a day.... with help... a few hours
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HP/ Torque to top end). Same thing with adjustable cam sprockets. Some people are aware of this, and some aren't.
You should consider getting an adjustable camshaft sprocket anyway. The new cam should be set up with a dial gauge, regrinds can often be a little way out on timing. The cam grinder should give you specs to set it up at 40thou (or similar) lift or on the lobe centre.
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Time is probably around 2-4 hours depending. If you have swapped your manual fan for an electric it would go faster. :)