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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: 1bigtracker on August 26, 2004, 04:23:40 PM
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ok i'm starting to plans the winter Fab Fest like their is every winter at our shop.  this winter it will be my 94 4 door kick into a rock crwler of sorts.  i want 16V(already in truck ;) ), auto tanny, 2 cases, axles are unknown as of right now but most likely they will be a D44 and 9in. both locked.  it will be coils at least in the rear, but most likely all the way around. tires will most likely be the 36/12.50R15 swampers we already have or a set of 33/12.50R15 Goodyear MT's(the ones that look like the old hummer tires) but i think 33's would be too small.  we have been toying with puting a ball in the middle so the frame can flex up to 60 degrees but that won't make it into production. ÂÂ
Now my questions are:
how to swap a Auto tranny into my sidekick?
what year would be easyest?
are they all computer controled?
could i use a 2WD trans witha 4X4 tail shaft?
I'm not worry about cutting sheet metal or beating it with a hammer.  i think i could just take the cable shiter and plop it right onto the 5 speeds  floor right?
stu
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The 3 speed auto is the easiest to install. It has a few hard use issues, but call the wonderful people at Spidertrax and they have a guy locally that does all their auto builups and he is awesome at the trick stuff. Use the 4wd version from a 2 door from 89 up. Have OTT Industries in B.C. do a kicker3 and mate it to a sammy case with a 4.16:1 or a 5.14:1 gearset and you won't have to go obscene gearing in the axles.
Hope that helps.
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could i use a 2WD trans witha 4X4 tail shaft?
Just very curious, cause I've found a 4wd 5spd and I've got a bad 2wd 5spd Trans in my new 95.
(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/whitfimb/95tracker1.jpg)
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I beleive you could, they look like the same basic setup to me, just need to know your way around the gear oil laden gear stuff.
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i'll be making everything inhouse. we almost never call out to buy aftermarket parts anymore ;D
stu
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I wanna come over and play ;D
Wild
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oh you have no clue(thinking in head, "did that sound gay?")
stu
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Bring a Turbo ;D
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but really if you where clloser then hell yea but...
stu
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I wish I were :'(
I hear Vermont is beautiful in the fall
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We all need to move to a central state ;D
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We all need to move to central state ;D
:o :o :o :-X
Central State is the name of our local Mental Instution.
http://www.csh.state.va.us/
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I bet some people think we are insane to
mod and drive our Zukes the way we do
;D
Wild
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:o :o :o :-X
Central State is the name of our local Mental Instution.
[url]http://www.csh.state.va.us/[/url]
LOL. :D
If wild's bringing turbo's and Stu's got the axles, I'm coming too! ;D
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I wish I were  :'(
I hear Vermont is beautiful in the fall
not where i live, its kinda the getto of Vermont but yea if you drive about a hour away it just nice to look at the mountains and the trees. we own some land out in the sticks and looks sweet in the fall. (god i hope after all this BS everyone will want to move to VT ;D)
stu
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The 3 speed auto is the easiest to install. It has a few hard use issues, but call the wonderful people at Spidertrax and they have a guy locally that does all their auto builups and he is awesome at the trick stuff. Use the 4wd version from a 2 door from 89 up. Have OTT Industries in B.C. do a kicker3 and mate it to a sammy case with a 4.16:1 or a 5.14:1 gearset and you won't have to go obscene gearing in the axles.
Hope that helps.
are all autos computer controled?
i will need to take the computer too right?
i don't know about gearing yet, might to a GSR 1 or 2.
i'm useing alot of info from this web page
http://www.cs.umass.edu/~glenn/personal.html
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what are the diffs between diff year tannys? i have been hearing about lockup?
stu
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The 3 speed autos used 4.62s and the 4 speed autos used 5.12s. Both trannies are a lockup torque convertor style and only the 4 speed is computer contolled. Did I get all the questions answered? I hope so.
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Stu said Quote:
"we own some land out in the sticks and looks sweet in the
fall. (god i hope after all this BS everyone will want to move to VT ) "
Ya, that's what happened in California, now they won't go home,
all 30 something million of them that live here
Wild
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Both trannies are a lockup torque convertor style and only the 4 speed is computer contolled. Did I get all the questions answered? I hope so.
so i don't need any computer for a 3 speed auto? this might be easyer then i had planed!
stu
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ok so far i got a tranny(whole truck actuly) but not sure if its an OD or not, havn't seen it. and i think i might be able to find a sammy case for free from a friend. good start so far just got to get the 4 door to the shop to start cuttin ;D
stu
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what are the diffs between diff year tannys? i have been hearing about lockup?
stu
My 89 trans has the torque convertor lockup, I
don't think mine has worked for years, and when
it did it only lowered the RPM by like 200-300 so
I don't think it's much of a loss
You could run without a computer if need be.
What Year 4 door ??? I think they all had computer
control, but hey if you got the whole truck it's no big
deal, all the parts are there (hopefully) and a 16V
engine too ??? this could get fun ;D
Wild
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the tracker that the auto is coming out of is a early hard top that some kids had thrashed around in the woods and smashed all to sh!t. i hope everything will go smoothly. their are a few things missing off the auto parts tracker. the computer is missing and a hell of alot of body panels but its good for parts(i'e 8V engine, rear axle houseing, CV's, ect) the 4 door we are useing for the base is a 94.
stu
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i'm still thinkin about a turbo for one of them.  what one would be easyer? 8V or 16V?  could i hook a AFC to the 16V?
stu
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AFC ??
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A'PEXI Super AFC. its fuel management(SP!). trhats what all my friends run in their turbo cars.
stu
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Ohh, I built a MegaSquirt EFI computer to run
the turbo SideKick, I just switched from a dual
stock EFI and MegaSquirt combo, to straight
MegaSquirt to control all the fuel management
Still tuning, running pretty good, I think I can
get better mileage from the MS EFI than the stock
system, but not until I get some good tuning time
going, it's a slow process, there is a automatic tuning
tool but I have a hard time getting it to read the data
logs, so I have resorted to tuning by hand, and watching
the EGO (exhaust gas oxygen) voltage to get the mixture
right at 14.7:1 ratio which is optimum burn, then you
tune for lean cruise to get better milage, and fatten up the
boost side for the power baby ;D
It's just time and tuning, and $40 in gas to get it right
Wild
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i have heard about the turning for turbo cars. hours and hours. i don't think i'm going to need turbo on the 4 door but more likely on the tracker i will. i was scarded about the turbo exploding when it hits cool water but i have heard that they can take it so i might just do it!
stu