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Title: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: Fredo on August 24, 2004, 02:10:37 PM
http://www.xfaktor.net/Trucks/CrazyKick

Fredo
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: JDMCRX on August 24, 2004, 02:40:48 PM
Looks good man fellow canadian

We should hit the trails some time
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: szabotage on August 24, 2004, 02:46:14 PM
sweet truck, good to see he finally finished the project! or at least nearing  the completion of ;D
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: 1bigtracker on August 24, 2004, 02:56:22 PM
you know, from when i started building my tracker i have always thought it owuld be one of the badest and i have thought that for a long time, but the more SAS trackers with 2 cases and lockers front and rear makes me think how far behind i am to be one of the best.  dose anyone know this guy?  i would really like to talk to him online.

stu
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: szabotage on August 24, 2004, 03:04:41 PM
I know of him and what he's done, his names Xfaktor he frequents  zookpower.ca , team swift, pirate, offroad.com, but not sure if he's been around here.

he definitely knows his zuks, last years suzican he was running a 1.6 twin cam frankenstein motor in his samurai on 31's, that was a real screamer!
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: HotRod on August 24, 2004, 03:17:51 PM
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you know, from when i started building my tracker i have always thought it owuld be one of the badest and i have thought that for a long time, but the more SAS trackers with 2 cases and lockers front and rear makes me think how far behind i am

stu

I know how you feel.  :-/
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: 1bigtracker on August 24, 2004, 03:44:40 PM
did he buy his t-case gears from a vendor or build them???  i would like more info on how he put his cases togather and the twin sticks.

stu
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: szabotage on August 24, 2004, 04:22:32 PM
I have the exact same t'case setup in my rig and it's all home fabbed, I believe he did his rock lobster and twin stick himself, the build up shows all from what I see in his website

the only thing I didn't do to the dual t'cases was TIG welding plates to the kick case after cutting off the front driveshaft output. cost- $60 bucks Can.

the only differences betwwen my setup and Xfaktor's is my intermediate shaft, mine is just a shortened kick driveshaft, X connected the 2 flanges together with a single Ujoint and built a frame to connect the sammi case to the kick case as one unit, basically a ghettoed OTTkicker3
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: 1bigtracker on August 24, 2004, 04:34:27 PM
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I have the exact same t'case setup in my rig and it's all home fabbed, I believe he did his rock lobster and twin stick himself, the build up shows all from what I see in his website

the only thing I didn't do to the dual t'cases was TIG welding plates to the kick case after cutting off the front driveshaft output. cost- $60 bucks Can.

the only differences betwwen my setup and Xfaktor's is my intermediate shaft, mine is just a shortened kick driveshaft, X connected the 2 flanges together with a single Ujoint and built a frame to connect the sammi case to the kick case as one unit, basically a ghettoed OTTkicker3

ahh thank you, i think the 4 door parts truck just became the new rock rig.

stu
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: snakeman on August 24, 2004, 04:41:18 PM
Last I heard, Sky was working on a kick/samurai t-case adapter/ dual case setup of some kind.. Might e-mail him and ask how its coming.

Jeff
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: whitfield on August 24, 2004, 05:13:47 PM
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ahh thank you, i think the 4 door parts truck just became the new rock rig.

stu



;) :o 8) ;)   :) :)    8) 8) 8)   Welcome to the Darker side.

I've got the F-150 coils, TT's Mighty Kong, and an extra sammy case and D-shafts ready to fab.   But then I ran across two screamin deals, a 1995 2dr Conv Kick, and a 1998 2dr Conv Kick.  Now I've got some more (Non 4-door) work to do.
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: hcgalvin on August 25, 2004, 02:54:43 AM
ugh those toy truck axles look narrow. :P

(http://xfaktor.net:8082/Projects/Suzuki/Coil/2004-07-28Coil01.jpg)

I believe the axles are about 5-6 inches narrower than a sidekick axle. Can somebody maybe correct me on this? How exactly do the toy pickup truck axles fit and feel under a track kick? I've seen Glenns, and I guess it doesn't look bad..  If I were to do toy axles (which I may do in the future) I think the axles I'd need to be looking at are from a toy landcruiser 60 series:

(http://www.cruiserparts.net/parts/60photos/1985/grey/land%20cruiser%20001.jpg)

Lots of rust too, so why not make it a trail rig lol.

74.3:1 final drive? Wow. Mine is 179:1.  ;D

:)

I'd like to see some pictures of that truck outside of the garage.  Good job though. It's always neat to see someone take on the SAS project.

Heather
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: 1bigtracker on August 25, 2004, 05:46:58 AM
here found this at another fourm, thought it might help.

Axle info - Toyota

Stock Toyota front axle measurements for comparison:
55.5" wide, 29" spring perch centers, '79-85 Toyota trucks and 4runners
63.5" wide, (set up for coil springs) 90-97 FJ80 and FZJ80 Landcruisers
'86-95 IFS front end is about 58.5" wide
'93-98 T100 IFS front end is about 65" wide

Toyota Rear Axle Widths:
55" wide, '79-85 4wd trucks/4runners - 6 Lug
58" wide, '86-95 4wd trucks/4runners - 6 Lug
56" wide, '79-95 2wd Trucks - 5 Lug
60.75" wide, '95.5-up Tacomas/4runners
66.75" wide, '93-98 T100 trucks

stu
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: CanadianZook on August 25, 2004, 12:35:09 PM
Wow, not bad. Have a look at mine. I have installed a D44 front and Ford9" from a 66' Bronco with Spools and 5.83 gears. I also run 35" MudRover tires from Dunlop and a Twin stick convert to go 2WD low.

(http://)



What do you think ??? ;D
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on August 25, 2004, 01:32:52 PM
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Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on August 25, 2004, 01:34:31 PM
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Wow, not bad. Have a look at mine. I have installed a D44 front and Ford9" from a 66' Bronco with Spools and 5.83 gears. I also run 35" MudRover tires from Dunlop and a Twin stick convert to go 2WD low.

(http://)



What do you think ??? ;D
 NO PIC. HERE  ???
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: Natebert on August 25, 2004, 06:20:37 PM
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here found this at another fourm, thought it might help.

Axle info - Toyota

Stock Toyota front axle measurements for comparison:
55.5" wide, 29" spring perch centers, '79-85 Toyota trucks and 4runners
63.5" wide, (set up for coil springs) 90-97 FJ80 and FZJ80 Landcruisers
'86-95 IFS front end is about 58.5" wide
'93-98 T100 IFS front end is about 65" wide

Toyota Rear Axle Widths:
55" wide, '79-85 4wd trucks/4runners - 6 Lug
58" wide, '86-95 4wd trucks/4runners - 6 Lug
56" wide, '79-95 2wd Trucks - 5 Lug
60.75" wide, '95.5-up Tacomas/4runners
66.75" wide, '93-98 T100 trucks

stu


So FJ80's look like the choice to widen up the trackwidth AND to gain extra beefiness, without total custom fab stuff.  (thanks for the WMS info)  I never dug into it until now.  
That'd give ya bout 3 inches of extra width on each side.  (no more need for offset rims)  Keep the tires off of the frame and shocks.  Provide better stability, no need to inboard the shocks, etc, etc, etc..


THANKS!
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: CanadianZook on August 26, 2004, 02:12:04 PM
 :-[     Sorry about the no picture happening.

Heres a link to my site. (just started with this web stuff)

http://www.d1kh3d.com/6928.html

I'm new to this forum and I havent found a way to post a pic.

Any one know how without flaming me??

Thanx,

Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: 1bigtracker on August 26, 2004, 03:01:35 PM
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:-[     Sorry about the no picture happening.

Heres a link to my site. (just started with this web stuff)

[url]http://www.d1kh3d.com/6928.html[/url]

I'm new to this forum and I havent found a way to post a pic.

Any one know how without flaming me??

Thanx,


i don't know how to post pics but don't worry about flaming, we are VARY strict about rude comments.  welcome abord!

stu
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on August 27, 2004, 02:54:45 AM
(http:// http://www.d1kh3d.com/mediac/400_0/media/DIR_26/ZukBuggy~005.jpg   )

CanadianZook
           
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: Somer on August 27, 2004, 12:19:19 PM
He attached the upper link to the radius arm.  Is this ok?  
The angle of the diff won't move like a true 3 link suspension, such as on the rear of a Kick.


(http://xfaktor.net:8082/Projects/Suzuki/Coil/2004-06-27Link01.jpg)
(http://xfaktor.net:8082/Projects/Suzuki/Coil/2004-07-23Coil02.jpg)
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: 1bigtracker on August 27, 2004, 01:00:26 PM
humm i don't see how any of that works??? at first i was thinking that it was kinda like the older fords radius ares but it don't look like it???

stu
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: explosivo on August 27, 2004, 03:15:44 PM
It reminds me of how the RRO setup is up front... there's just the two links (it looked like) with 2 bushings on the end of each link. Or at least that's what some of nc_zuk's pics made it look like :)
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: snakeman on August 28, 2004, 07:49:07 AM
I see how part of it works. 2 main links from frame to axle, 1 link each side from main link to top of axle.

He'd still need a trac bar, and the upper links look kinda weak where they attach to the lower links, maybe unfinished and yet to be braced in the pic.

Rig looks sweet though! I love SA Kicks

My .02
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: snakeman on August 28, 2004, 07:53:01 AM
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He attached the upper link to the radius arm.  Is this ok?  ...


(Just reread the post)

What size tubing are you using for the radius arm? I have heard of the links breaking or tearing off under load. Brace it good.
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: 1bigtracker on August 28, 2004, 08:30:31 AM
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and the upper links look kinda weak where they attach to the lower links, maybe unfinished and yet to be braced in the pic.


i agree,  i'm am now starting to see how it works and it should flex well!

ctu
Title: Re: New Toy SAS kick from Québec!
Post by: r0ckstarr79 on August 28, 2004, 12:33:46 PM
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I'm new to this forum and I havent found a way to post a pic.
Any one know how without flaming me??


You need to find someone, or some place that you can host pics from... For example, say cardomain.com. It sucks, but it works.. Upload the pics to car domain, then view your pic, right click, select properties, then copy the link to the pic.

Then, go to where you want to make your post with the pic and paste the link and add in the IMG tags.. Or, drag over and highlight the link, and click the (http://www.zukiworld.com/public_html/YaBBImages/img.gif) button above...  

IMG tags should be "[ img]" at the beginning of the link, with "[/img]" at the end of the link. No spaces between the tags and the link on either side...  ;)