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Title: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: Element on March 28, 2009, 02:16:14 PM
4 dr sidekick.
What is the largest size tire you would feel comfortable mounting on the spare carrier without seeing it overstressed?
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: skitime on March 28, 2009, 05:43:04 PM
The question I think is more what is the largest tire you can mount on a stock Tracker tire mount.  I had a 29" tire on mine and it was just rubbing the bumper.  I now have 31-10.50-15  tires so I modified the stock mount and I am still using the mount. I prefer the stock mount on the door over any other option I have seen. The tire mounted on a seperate mount supported by the steel bumpers can create rattles and is an extra pain it the butt to get to things inside the back door.
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: Element on March 28, 2009, 05:59:13 PM
I am more interested in the stress factor. I got rid of my plastic, slotted the carrier, and so on.... The information I am looking for is how much weight (in terms of tire size) can the door/carrier withstand. I am looking at creating a suzuki to toyota adapter that will also lift the spare tire up a hair... I am going to run a skinnier spare but hoping to keep the height. If I have to I will go with a swing arm... just a few other important things on my list first... like steering...
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: jeff1997 on March 28, 2009, 06:02:39 PM
I modified mine to clear a 31" Swamper. It has held up fine. the rest of the rear door is rusting away though.
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: Element on March 28, 2009, 06:08:07 PM
I bet that 31 SS weighs more than what I was wanting to put on...


255/85/16
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: rascott on March 28, 2009, 06:41:56 PM
i have a 31x10.5x15 on my stock carrier(2dr'89) and it seems just fine.
it doesn't touch those little bumper things, but doesn't seem to move at all(no noise).
heavy truck tire.
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: Element on March 28, 2009, 06:45:36 PM
I would guess the 4dr door and hinges would be able to handle more weight???
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: Skyhiranger on March 28, 2009, 06:51:38 PM
I would guess the 4dr door and hinges would be able to handle more weight???

Actually, the rear doors on the 4 doors and the 2 door tintops are the same, so I would guess the hinges are too.
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: Element on March 28, 2009, 07:01:46 PM
You are wise sir!!! Any time I think of 2 dr kicks, Convertible comes to mind... I forget about the tintops...

So, would I be able to mount a 255/85/16 without ripping my door off like what happens to sami's with too large of a tire on the back???
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: jeff1997 on March 28, 2009, 07:28:10 PM
I would say YES. By the way a 255/85 is bigger than a 31", tire isn't it ?
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: Element on March 28, 2009, 07:36:28 PM
quite a bit...  but hopefully no heavier than a 31 10.5 super swamper...
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: RACER X on March 28, 2009, 07:43:34 PM
I had a 31" with aluminum rim on mine I made it fit tight and made sure no bounce it was nice, but when I went to 33s I threw the spare inside.
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: Uncivilized on March 28, 2009, 07:53:06 PM
...and is an extra pain it the butt to get to things inside the back door.
Yeah, those swing away's are hard to figure out  :laugh:

I've had a 31x12.5 on mine for a while, I had to lower the air pressure to about 5psi to squeeze it on.
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: Element on March 28, 2009, 07:55:29 PM
I had a 31" with aluminum rim on mine I made it fit tight and made sure no bounce it was nice, but when I went to 33s I threw the spare inside.

Was that on a 2 door soft top?
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: TopHeavy96 on March 28, 2009, 11:54:47 PM
Hey Element, I wondered about this as well, I'm only runnin 30s now but down the road I want to updrade to 32 or 33s, and I don't want an extra carrier on the bumper.  I planning to weld some reinforcement to the door(inside or out havn't decided) and mount spare tire bracket to that.  Maybe reinforce/upgrade hinges.
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: wildgoody on March 29, 2009, 12:00:34 AM
It's not the hinges you need to worry about, it's the metal of the
door that gets weak and breaks, support the tire so it doesn't
flex the sheet metal and it will live  ;)

Wild
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: norcalwreckchaser on March 29, 2009, 12:11:44 AM
Just a thought, ever think about mounting it on the roof?
Norcal
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: Element on March 29, 2009, 12:24:51 AM
Well I have stuff going into works tomorrow...I  will keep yall posted... swing arm will come later
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: RACER X on March 29, 2009, 01:09:09 AM
I had a 31" with aluminum rim on mine I made it fit tight and made sure no bounce it was nice, but when I went to 33s I threw the spare inside.

Was that on a 2 door soft top?
yes a two dr had to modify carrier a bit so bottom stuck out and tire didnt hit the bumper but it looked great
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: bentparts on March 29, 2009, 05:41:10 AM
I had a 31" Swamper mounted on a modified stock mount for a couple of years. The mount held up fine, but the hinges really took a beating and began to clunk a lot, and then I began to notice small cracks in the sheet metal near the door opening. Finally built a swing away mount, problems solved. BTW, I still have the modified mount, will fit up to a 32" wheel / tire combo if anyone needs one. Photo at my flickr site.
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: Zukipilot on March 29, 2009, 08:04:05 AM
Jerry,
I ran the 33x12.50's on mine for years with no issues. The 15X10 rims with 4"BS fit perfect on the mount (no rear bumper). I would drop my pressure on the tire down, tighten the lug nuts then air the tire up to full pressure. It would snug the tire tight on the door, no wobbling, moving around etc..
If you care about your paint.... you probably dont want to do this, but it's  only paint  ;)

Zig
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: Element on March 29, 2009, 09:45:35 AM
Good to know... i will give that a try....
Title: Re: Tire Carrier VS Large Tire!!!
Post by: zukisidekick on March 29, 2009, 10:46:54 AM
I have a 34x10.50 on my door with a carrier I built.  It essentially moves the tire up 3" and out 1.5".   If your handy with a welder, it's a pretty easy thing to make.   Here's the tire on the back...I'll look around to see if I have any pics of the bracket itself.  If not, I can snap off a few.

(http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/431/1061/26075530103_large.jpg)

(http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/431/1061/26075530104_large.jpg)

Brian