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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: xkmail on April 23, 2009, 09:41:53 PM
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SO on my 90 kick I want to lift it a little to get some larger tires on without spending alot of dough.
I am mainly a daily driver, but want to give myself some lower rpm's.
What are the benefits of coil spacers over the 2" calmini or similar body lift.
What are the main issues with steering arm, brake lines, and a differential drop.
Are diff drop kits easy, cheap?
I do just a little desert driving but never anything crazy.
I am not worried about driveline clearance and rock crawling.
I also see a 3" suspension.
I notice if I do a body lift there is alot of work of clearing the 4wd low gear, huel filler.
Does a suspension kit run into same problems or no?
thanks
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Spacer lift is the easiest lift out there, and arguably the cheapest. Would take a couple of hours tops, if you work slow. Simple to install, no other mods required, and There is a fella on this board that sells them, I think his handle is Jeff1997.
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Spacer lift is the easiest lift out there, and arguably the cheapest. Would take a couple of hours tops, if you work slow. Simple to install, no other mods required, and There is a fella on this board that sells them, I think his handle is Jeff1997.
That's debatable.
Cost of spacers, longer shocks, strut flip/extension... then addressing the alignment - sometimes twice.
I personally think for a DD that's not going to see much off road, and you're not worried about clearance, a body lift would be the wise descision. 2" body lifts sell for $119.00. 3" a bit more, but also can be made for about $75.00.
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You guys know what my answer is!! >:D Seriously though, I think it depends where you live. If rust is an issue the body lift will not last as long and may also be next to impossible to install if it is already rusted. The coil lift does have some alignmnet issues but does not change ride quality. The TOTAL cost of the coil lift is a little more but you get true frame lift not just a gap in the body and frame. The BL also has more work to do with the steering shaft, gas tank hoses, shifters, bumpers, etc. Both will lift it but my .02 is a vote for the coil lift, and not just because I sell them. I do have both on my ride.
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so a coil lift does not dick with the hoses, wires, shifter steering?
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I extended my rear breather hose when I did my 2" Jeff-lift, 2 hose clamps, a little piece of hose, and a piece of 1/4 inch brake line, flared at both ends, thats it. Everything else comes conveniently packaged right from Jeff. I used KYB '95 mustang shocks for the rear. Coil spacers are much easier to install than a body lift IMO. You might need a coil spring compressor for the front. With 30x9.5s I gained about 3.5 to 4" ground clearance. With body lift you only get what the tires give you.
I say go with Jeff's lift, and get his strut and diff spacers, you won't be disappointed.
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Coil spacers are much easier to install than a body lift IMO.
I agree, my 2" coil spacers took 3-4hours, my 2" body took me a whole weekend...
For a DD id say a 2" coil lift and 235:s, looks good and gives a nice boost in clearance.
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so a coil lift does not dick with the hoses, wires, shifter steering?
NO. The hoses go from the body and engine area to the frame. Seperate the two by 3" and you have work to do. No hoses have to be lengthened with the coil lift.
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what about aftermarket coils/struts shocks?
I see some people using coils off ford broncos, rangers, and other cars?
Has anyone put together a definitive list of items from the junkyard?
I know I saw another post on spring rates, seems the front strut I could find a longer one somewhere with some research
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Spacer lift is the easiest lift out there, and arguably the cheapest. Would take a couple of hours tops, if you work slow. Simple to install, no other mods required, and There is a fella on this board that sells them, I think his handle is Jeff1997.
That's debatable.
Cost of spacers, longer shocks, strut flip/extension... then addressing the alignment - sometimes twice.
I personally think for a DD that's not going to see much off road, and you're not worried about clearance, a body lift would be the wise descision. 2" body lifts sell for $119.00. 3" a bit more, but also can be made for about $75.00.
Everything's debatable... ;)
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For a light lift just to help clear larger tires if you have a 2 door I would look at picking up a set of 4 door springs, especially if it is a DD. Otherwise I would look at spending the extra money and at least picking up a set of OME coils, if not the entire lift kit. I used the spacers and found the ride a bit to stiff for a DD, especially with the road quality in Seattle.
As for what springs you can use, Low Range Off-Road has a great chart showing the length and lb setting for the springs front and rear. You can just compare it to other vehicles and mix and match until you get what you want.
How much lift are you looking for?
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I would like to put on some larger tires to lower my rpms and smooth out the washboard dirt roads out here in the desert where I live.
I guess 235's with a 2" lift is common.
I can trim the fenders a little, no biggie, not a show car.
I guess tire width is important too.
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I LOVE my OME setup in high-speed (desert, fire roads) wheeling. I've frequently beat lighter vehicles because my suspension keeps me more stable than them in whoops, bumps & jumps. Jeff's kit is the best bang-for-the-buck lift for stuffing larger tires, but the suspension travel & response remains stock. If you're 100% certain you'll never need more frame clearance, I'll reluctantly give the nod to body lifting. However, I've been a LOT of places where an extra 1-2" in frame clearance would have made the difference between making it or not making it. For $100 more I think it's well worth that additional clearance over a body lift. And, I'm always a proponent of trimming. It's cheap, easy and doesn't raise the center of gravity.
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I agree with the OME kit 4 what your asking. Not as much as a Calmini in price & labor. Yet gain more in performance then a body lift offers. "Right in the middle". You can always add the body lift later if you want more.
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could'nt be happier with my 3'' calmini suspension lift. I'am in to the low buck approach too, but this is one mod where a you get what you pay for. besides the clearance, the ride quality on and off road is way better.
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The hybrid Calmini\OME is still the best but will cost
Sooner or later the gravitational pull gets you to something close