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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: captchee on August 11, 2009, 07:49:21 PM
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Ok so . I came a cross a deal today and picked me up a 95 4 door with 1.6 16 valve and 5 speed trany
Why this,,,, when I was looking for a 4 speed auto ? Well I Got a good price .
So now my question . Is there any real issue with swapping this into my 89 2 door that had a 1.6 8valed with 3 speed .
I been looking for threads on this here on the forum ?? Maybe I missed it so if I did could someone point me to the right place .
Otherwise , im thinking all I really need is to swap out the peddles , harness and ecm and center consol into my 89 .
Im running stock tiers so would there be any real issues if I left the gearing alone ?
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your housings are going to have 462 and the standard runs 512's. I'd swap in the 512's because they are already low on power and you don't want to loose any more power.
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thanks , ill keep that in mind .
would the complete housings a derect swap as well ?. IE un bolt the complete front and rear in the 95 4 door and just bolt it right up into my 89 ?
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You should be fine, I don't believe they switched the front end to the larger spline until 96. And even if they did, you have all the spare parts you would need to switch over. :D
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http://www.acksfaq.com/driveshaftvideo.htm
If you do a search on AcksFaq for Driveshaft you can find lots of links going over the shafts. He even has a Tracker manual for it.
http://www.acksfaq.com/96-FSM-v1-4a-pdf.htm
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now look at that . THANK you very much 8)
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nope ist all going to go , engine and trany . the lower end of the engine is toast . the uper end is good , the ecm is good the trany works fine , just high miles
so im thinking once i get it all back together , ill put whats good that im taking out , up on this forum for sale ;)
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You could just pull the engine and leave the auto trans.
Swap the flex plate over to the 16V and bolt it up, otherwise
you could swap all the 5 speed parts over as well, we did a 5 speed
to auto conversion, not too bad, and as far as wheeling, I'd take
an auto over a clutch anytime. my $.02 worth
Wild
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if your going only for mileage I would wait to swap out diffs. See what you think about the 462 and if you dont like it then swap to the 512
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i was thinking the same thing . ill need the car so i can try it out for a week or so and if i dont like it i can do the swap
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I am not positive that you are dealing with a Samurai here...
That said, if both trucks are TracKicks you should have no problems with driveshaft phasing as the driveshafts are single-piece units. On the other hand, Samurais have two piece driveshafts and must be properly assembled if separated.
The Haynes Manual is great when used as a campfire starter ESPECIALLY when purchased for fixing a TracKick!
I have seen in the FSMs where they suggest that you mark the flanges so that you can re-assemble things to the way they came from the factory. That's not a bad idea...
I hope that this helps and I hope that you found Ack's FAQ useful!
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ya Ack , your FAQ was great . been doing alot of reading .
no these are both sidekicks . im going to take the 16V and 5 speed out of the 4 door and put in my 89 . infact , im thinking i going to change the dash seats , everything . i dont think the back seat from the 4 door will fit into my 2 oor , but the front will im sure .
my 89 also doesnt have power stearing so thats going over
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ok got another question . i was searching over on Acks and im sure if i got this right so maybe someone could conferm this for me .
is the Fuel pump in the 1995 4 door side kick with a 16 valve , the same fulelpump as in my 89 which had the 8V ?
if i understand the seach correctly . "fuel pump oprtions "
the fuel pump from an 89-91 fits a 94 16valve . so is it also the same for the 95 ?
or will i need to also swap the tanks out ?
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ok got another question . i was searching over on Acks and im sure if i got this right so maybe someone could conferm this for me .
is the Fuel pump in the 1995 4 door side kick with a 16 valve , the same fulelpump as in my 89 which had the 8V ?
if i understand the seach correctly . "fuel pump oprtions "
the fuel pump from an 89-91 fits a 94 16valve . so is it also the same for the 95 ?
or will i need to also swap the tanks out ?
Your current fuel pump and tank should work fine.
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ok . thank you , good to hear .
so today i got the old engine and trany out as well as the harness and ecm .
i also gutted the interior . I decided I might as well use everything I can . So im replacing the dash .
The seats are better then mine as was the carpet so that will also be going into my 89 .
door panels als will get swapped . my remote mires dont work anlyonger but the ones on the 4 door do , so the will go over to ..
my only concern right now is the harness .that might just take some time . but i guess thats just part of it
i want to thank everyone again for their help on this , im sure i will have more questions
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I'm pretty sure the door panels won't interchange, since the doors are not interchangable between 2 and 4 doors.
I was thinking the seats wouldn't interchange either. But maybe that is just the seat tracks, and you can swap the seats between seat tracks and geth them to work.
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so far all looks the same .
not the door itself wont work do to the body lines not matching becouse of the back door . but past that , all on the inside apears the same . latches , windo regulator , pannel , locks .
ill post some photos when i get farther along
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I know the manual window regulators are not the same between 2 door and 4 door doors.
The locks and latches/handles should interchange without a problem.
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well for some reason my regulators are exsactly the same so thats odd ???MMmmm . not thats the front door regulators . cant say what the back ones have as i have not taken the pannels off of those .
i wonder if there was some kind of production change after a given date and i have an older 95 4 door???? .
now as to the door pannels , they dont fit . while evertyhing lines up . the 4 door , doors are about 4 inchs narrower then the 2 door . to bad ,,, but maybe someone here could use them when i get done . they are in very good shape
i be sure and post some photos . once i get things lined out and start battening things down some more
i know right now that im going to miss that flat shelf above the jockybox that my 89 dash had :-\
i got alot of work ahead and little time to do it . but im hopping to be getting close to the wiring this weekend
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you know what maybe it would be a good idea to make a list of things that i find that dont enterchange . as well as any modifications i might have to make to something to make it fit .
Interior wise anyway
that way folks will have it here to go by
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well for some reason my regulators are exsactly the same so thats odd ???MMmmm . not thats the front door regulators . cant say what the back ones have as i have not taken the pannels off of those .
i wonder if there was some kind of production change after a given date and i have an older 95 4 door???? .
That is odd. I know when I compared the regulators they weren't the same. Seems like the length was different and maybe the mounting points were different. I can't remember for sure what years I was comparing...I was thinking the 4 door was a 92/93 and the 2 door was a 93.
you know what maybe it would be a good idea to make a list of things that i find that dont enterchange . as well as any modifications i might have to make to something to make it fit .
Interior wise anyway
that way folks will have it here to go by
Good idea.
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One other thing, the VIN is on the dash of the 89' you might have trouble
if you ever register in another state, or just have a nosey trooper check
you out
Wild
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yep thought of that ;)
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just glue the vin from the old dash over top... had that in my old firefly (rebodied turbo)
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The fuel pump should be OK, its the pressure regulator that sets the pressure and you will have swapped that out. Do you have a Check Engine Light showing? what colour are the spark plugs running?
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I would say the pump should be fine too. I have used an 8V pump in place of a 16V pump and had no issues. It could be you have a weak fuel pump or the filter (on the pump and/or the inline one on the frame) is partially clogged.
IIRC, the black box on the firewall is the ABS box.
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thanks sky on the info for the box . i did not swap over the brakes but i did hook up that black box . this would exsplain the brake light being on since the box is getting no reply on the systems check on start up
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The brakes is not what needs to be swapped. If you look at the rear axle third, you should see that one has a plug and wire coming out of it (the ABS sensor wiring) and the other one doesn't. All you would have to do is swap the complete third (which it sounds like you are going to swap gears anyway), and that should make the brake light go off.
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good to know ,. but let me clerify . when i said brakes i mean everything concerning breakes .
im still running the break system from the 89 .
i am going o swap out the complete axel though . i shouldnt have to also then swap out the buster , MS and PV should I ?
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good to know ,. but let me clerify . when i said brakes i mean everything concerning breakes .
im still running the break system from the 89 .
i am going o swap out the complete axel though . i shouldnt have to also then swap out the buster , MS and PV should I ?
I really have no idea what you are asking.
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So the cam timing being off was causing the engine to die suddenly?
I doubt the fuel injector cleaner is causing it to throw the EGR code.
Did you clean the passage from the egr valve through the backside of the engine over to the exhaust manifold? Also, you can clean the EGR valve with some brake cleaner, if it is sticky or doesn't move like it is supposed to. Also clean the EGR passages in the intake. I have had one that would throw the EGR code, cleaned everything listed and it has never came back....that has been about 45K ago.
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no the egr wasnt causing the engine to die . that was the CPS just as the ECM was saying
replaced the distrib and put 50 miles on it today , no issues
yep its claen , whell what i could get to anyway .
i actualy had this egr issue on a 2001 chevy .
once i ran the tank clean of the injerctor cleaner , she went out and stayed out .
as it was exspalined to me . the cleaner also effects carbon build up which then get sucked into the exshaust passages , if there is enough of it , it will throw a code . so before i take the exhaust anifolds off and such and check those , im going to run a couple tanks and see what happens ..
as a note on this , it took about 30 miles before it threw the egr code so . we will see
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sorry cam timing was what was causing the issue of bogging out after 3/4 throttle ..
i could get her up to 65 with nursing but that was it .
pulled the front off and re timed it , then re timed the cam and i had her up to 80 today ;)
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Lots of good info there, thanks.
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A note her also on the code 51 .
As I stated I pulled the egr and all looked well . But after reading kick fix links I decided to take a closer look .
The inside of the throttle intake , the carbon was near gooo .
. Very ,very paste like as was the lines from the EGR . Again , I suspect the lucas .
So I cleaned out all the lines . And ports in the throttle intake .
I also found my egr was sticking open just a little and not seating fully when closed .
So I cleaned a little more there and got it to seal .
200+ miles today and no engine code ;)
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FYI, the stock 89 fuel pump will put out 60 PSI before the
pumps internal pressure regulator starts to vent fuel back into the tank
Wild