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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Technical Discussion - Performance / Modify => Topic started by: Minmatar on September 02, 2009, 02:38:09 PM

Title: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Minmatar on September 02, 2009, 02:38:09 PM
Ok so what can a guy do to get some power outta his 1.6 16v?

So far i've red up on torquer cams but thats about it. I was thinking about the calmini exhaust. What else it out there to push 32" BFG MK2's?
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Rhinoman on September 03, 2009, 04:37:46 AM
The Baleno /Swift guys fit a bigger throttle body.
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Minmatar on September 04, 2009, 12:55:37 PM
Im starting to see with the money you pour into gearing something.....you could do the same by A) building the motor or B) Motor swap.....
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Rhinoman on September 04, 2009, 04:15:02 PM
Yep, if I ever blow one of my 5:83s I'm going to fit a 2ltr.
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Minmatar on September 04, 2009, 04:32:57 PM
I saw a thread on that 2L swap....but it was dropped and never finished.....wish someone would pick that up...
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: bentparts on September 10, 2009, 03:10:32 PM
Gears, Gears, gears, TURBO.
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Minmatar on September 10, 2009, 03:11:45 PM
No turbo.....This isnt an XR4Ti
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: mrfuelish on September 13, 2009, 09:06:50 PM
if you want cheap and easy I picked up a timing belt from napa auto parts they seam to be a little bit shorter and I picked up about 400 rpm's of bottom end on mine over say a belt from hawks.
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Minmatar on September 15, 2009, 09:27:38 AM
is that a joke........LOL
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: mrfuelish on September 16, 2009, 06:05:47 PM
no, do a search on cam timing.
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Minmatar on September 30, 2009, 09:19:15 AM
I red a little bit up on this. Anyone aware of Any other cams out there for the 16v with and aggressive lop?
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Rhinoman on September 30, 2009, 02:04:58 PM
Thre is a guy on teamswift.net called superfly, he specializes in cams for Suzukis, seems well regarded.
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: sammypro.com on October 01, 2009, 10:44:29 AM
I red a little bit up on this. Anyone aware of Any other cams out there for the 16v with and aggressive lop?

we do a grind for the 16v, its a torque grind not a top end grind. ALSO, Im working on pistons. I have to buy a ton of them to get an order. I'll keep you all posted.
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Minmatar on October 01, 2009, 11:38:54 AM
I really need to get my hands on a spare motor all together.......this motor is tired. I figure ill run it till it dies. Only complaint i have is the damn head........ 1 stripped spark plug sleeve. Eats some Oil / Coolant. But only when cold. When it warms up its fine (expanding back into place....) Money is so damn tight right now. Anyone hiring? hahaha weekend job here i come....bah
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: sammypro.com on October 01, 2009, 02:29:51 PM
what skill set do you have ???..........might have a core/spare, I'll look.
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Rhinoman on October 01, 2009, 02:48:34 PM
we do a grind for the 16v, its a torque grind not a top end grind. ALSO, Im working on pistons. I have to buy a ton of them to get an order. I'll keep you all posted.

I need to get my 16V into my SJ now or this is going to cost me money  :)

Seriously, I'm working on remapping the ECUs for the late model 16Vs, once I've done a map for a standard (ish) motor it has to be build time  :) :)
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Minmatar on October 01, 2009, 03:37:38 PM
Never rebuilt a motor Furthest i've gone motor wise is a head swap.....after rebuild. Lower end cant be that hard.....My end product i want:

Rebuilt G16KV Head (torquer cam)
Rebuilt lower end
D/T Header
Custom 2" Back
Figure out my cold air intake with Throttle spacer
Drop clutch fan (replace with Electric fan / Push pull theory)
(still looking for alternator swaps)

Id love 2 cores. But money is so damn tight. Pisses me off. (not even lifted yet >=O)
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Rhinoman on October 02, 2009, 04:39:52 PM
Rebuilt G16KV Head (torquer cam)
Rebuilt lower end
D/T Header
Custom 2" Back
Figure out my cold air intake with Throttle spacer
Drop clutch fan (replace with Electric fan / Push pull theory)
(still looking for alternator swaps)

Id love 2 cores. But money is so damn tight. Pisses me off. (not even lifted yet >=O)

Why do you want a throttle spacer on an MPI engine?
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: mrfuelish on October 03, 2009, 11:54:01 AM
maybe it would help with bottom end or he is looking at the ones that has the swirls in it for spinning the air as it goes in but would only work at Wot. ?
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Mac500r on October 07, 2009, 10:14:54 PM
Port the Mass Air Sensor! I noticed a good increase by de-screaning and porting the MAS. When you pull the screen assembly out there will be a step in the plastic housing. I blended that step out and ported thru the housing. Epoxy in the cavities on the outside of the MAS housing fixed it up nicely!
I ported the entire I.D from front to back and trimmed the air director around the sensor probe. The throttle response and power increase was well worth the trouble.
I also cut the ribs out of the air box lid and smoothed the sharp edges around the port that feeds air to the engine. More air volume above the filter feeds more air to the ported MAS! The 2 1/2 inch exhaust and header helped also.

Thanks,
Brent
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Minmatar on October 08, 2009, 09:56:26 AM
Great Feed Back Guys.

Gotta love the zuki love.

Id love pics of your work on the MAS/Box Mod. To give a clear picture!
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Mac500r on October 21, 2009, 02:38:29 AM
I gave the stuff to my brother because I am going with a different engine in mine. I will try to get some pics though.
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: KJMac on October 30, 2009, 09:27:01 AM
Mac500r put the box and maf on my kick,it was quite noticeable! I will get pics this weekend. I plan to draw thru the box when I put the turbo on it!
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Minmatar on October 30, 2009, 09:34:13 AM
Fun stuff. I just got paid today and im going hunting in the yards! Need a new wind shield as well as a rear window. Unless someone knows how to fix the back defroster.....it has broken connections on the glass.
Title: Re: Im new to the 16v some mod questions
Post by: Lindenmooch on November 02, 2009, 08:54:51 PM
My back window isn't made of glass.     :P   Can't help you with a rear defrost....but I would like to hear some more about motor swaps/head swaps and power gains.   Mine's old and tired as well....and could use a rebuild.