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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: trailboss on July 01, 2004, 03:16:56 PM

Title: samauri or sidekick
Post by: trailboss on July 01, 2004, 03:16:56 PM
well wich one whould be beter for trails and rock crawling please help
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: biker on July 01, 2004, 03:27:49 PM
Both  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: bandit86 on July 01, 2004, 03:45:03 PM
ask a jeep guy  ::)


no, seriously, if you learn to drive properly, it really does not matter.   there are more trackers out there for parts
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: keith on July 01, 2004, 03:45:54 PM
Sammy's have more and cheaper aftermarket stuff for them.  Kick's have a better softtop arrangement in my opinion.  
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: 1bigtracker on July 01, 2004, 04:12:09 PM
i have a tracker, but i think i could have done better if i had started with a sammy. :-/  but the tracker is still cool cuz no one around here has one but me. :D

stu
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: LilRed on July 01, 2004, 04:38:43 PM
    Samurai is narrower so can go places the Kick might not.  They have smaller motor and no power steering.  No fuel injection.  Parts are usually cheaper but can be harder to find.  Tough as nails.
    Sidekick definitely has better softop, more "creature comforts" if that matters.  Samurai has leaf springs, Kick has IFS and coils in the rear.  
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: idaholwb on July 01, 2004, 06:35:15 PM
 Or you can just simply have the best of both worlds, a sammy with kick engine, power steering, injection, axle gears with a spring over suspension and 33s. Go everywhere and not cost a fortune.
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: nc_zuk on July 02, 2004, 12:12:49 AM
This is all I have to say..................

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(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/her_zuki/P4160035.JPG)

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Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: supazuk on July 02, 2004, 12:41:23 AM
sarge how do you keep your rig all shiny if you're wheeling soo hard core  :P

sammy all the way ... buy  a track/kick too you will need parts
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: jerryp58 on July 02, 2004, 01:03:20 AM
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ask a jeep guy  ::)


That would actually be an interesting survey.  I'd bet they have more respect for the sammy than the trackick.
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: bandit86 on July 02, 2004, 01:24:08 AM
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ask a jeep guy    



That would actually be an interesting survey.  I'd bet they have more respect for the sammy than the trackick.


first response from a jeep guy is always"  why bother with one of those, just get a jeep"  remember, they're uneducated in the way of the suzuki
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: nc_zuk on July 02, 2004, 02:20:54 AM
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sarge how do you keep your rig all shiny if you're wheeling soo hard core  :P



Special Camera lens ;) It actually has quite a few "rub" marks on the body now. I just try and clean it up after a good weekend of wheeling. I want to keep her as happy as possible ;D Guess I should have added thes pics too ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: 97TRAKIN on July 02, 2004, 02:33:49 AM
A lot of people are doing the built Trackicks/Vits/XL-7 to carry more gear, people or both! Not to mention the ride and extra power. (GOT A/C  ;D?)
I would like to see an XL-7 with a coiled straight axle up front about 6" of suspention lift, and armor all around and under. That would be  :-*...  
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: Bigzook on July 02, 2004, 02:53:51 AM
Just ask eric. I havent seen his red samurai out in a while. But I do see the kick alot. Personally im looking for a good cheap stock kick to start building for my wife. Ok Ok and me too.
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: zutefisk on July 02, 2004, 09:17:18 PM
Depends on who's driving, what you're driving through, and how much you want to spend building.

Check out the cover story, that red sidekick with a body lift, armor and a nervy driver is running with well built samurais.

With what a decent samurai is costing now, I think that the cost is about the same or less to get a sidekick up on 30's with a locker in back.

The aftermarket support, samurai t-case gearing options, and the simplier leaf spring suspension, give you more options to take the samurai beyond the basic 30's.
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: trialspro on July 03, 2004, 05:02:18 PM
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   Samurai is narrower so can go places the Kick might not.  They have smaller motor and no power steering. No fuel injection.  Parts are usually cheaper but can be harder to find.  Tough as nails.  


not sure where you live or if its the same in the states, but in canada they started making the sami's FI in 1989.. or around there

i say get a sami, ive owned both and i like the sami much better... parts are definetly harder to get, but most things i've had to fix could be repaired if i spent a little time, plus there are quite a few samurais around here if i needed some used parts

simplicity of the samurai is another bonus, dont get me wrong, i love trackicks as well, just my opinion

Andrew
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on July 04, 2004, 12:01:02 PM
 ::)

(http://www.kielbassa.com/pictures/Mikep5.jpg)

The aftermarket hasnt quite cought up on these yet but I love em.

Mike
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: LilRed on July 04, 2004, 06:10:01 PM
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not sure where you live or if its the same in the states, but in canada they started making the sami's FI in 1989.. or around there



Yeah, you're right some are fuel injected,  they are just  fewer and farther between.   And having had ECM problems myself, the simplcity of the Sami is tempting sometimes!
 
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: kbrownengl on August 03, 2004, 07:47:38 PM
If i were you i would go with the Samurai
im 19 and i have had mine for over six years fixing anything and everything. parts are cheep and the people at the junk yards all know me by name (im not sure thats a good thing or a bad thing) anyway, get the samurai, its cheeper to repair depending on where you live
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: Zukipilot on August 03, 2004, 10:56:50 PM
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::)

([url]http://www.kielbassa.com/pictures/Mikep5.jpg[/url])

The aftermarket hasnt quite cought up on these yet but I love em.

Mike


Mike,
The kielbassa link was dead to here is another pic of your ride ;)

(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/hagen_rocks_sm.jpg)
Title: Re: samauri or sidekick
Post by: Zukipilot on August 03, 2004, 11:10:11 PM
I like the Kicks. If you donr mind fab work you can build one of these that can handle alot of big rock and still drive it to and from the trail but there is not near as many choices of aftermarket parts on the market for building a Kick compared to the Sami. If you want an insane wheel travel having strictly rock buggy you'll probably be better off with a Sami if you want to do it with aftermarket parts. But if you dont want to the aftermarket thing, you can do the same with some fabing and a Kick. Both vehicles will need axle upgrades, lift, tires, gears, lockers, etc..... So basically go with what you like. The aftermarket is getting better every day.

Zig

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