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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Technical Discussion - Performance / Modify => Topic started by: Asbury030 on October 30, 2009, 06:02:04 AM
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Hey guys well first off I bought the Trail Tough kit looks sweet once I get it all done but my concern is I am doing a complete off the frame resto so I see it uses some of the stock stuff like the u bolts but I could not get them off the were so rusted so I cut them is there any other stock parts I need to save for this lift and also can I just go to my local hardware store and buy the u bolts and if so what size would they need to be?
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Give Trail Tough a call and buy u-bolts from them or Sky at SORD. I just got a set from Sky and he has really nice quality u-bolts. The stuff you get at the hardware store are usually crappy. "Quality" u-bolts have a really thick flat washer and a deeper / taller nut that works better.
Good luck, Eric
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Gotta give Sean a little love here, check out http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/samsuspparts.htm (http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/samsuspparts.htm) a little over half way down, both stock and 2" extended U-bolts.
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you local spring shop can get you some good u-bolts too....call them and they'll tell you how to measure. I've gotten a few sets made and they always work great...and they'll come with the good washers and double high nuts.
don't buy the hardware store junk....they are meant to hold something on a flag pole.
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Hey does all this look right to you guys?
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Yep
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K sweet thanks guys I appreciate all the help.
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This lift is well documented here on our site. From the Gear Guide section there are two articles that will help.
http://www.zukiworld.com/month_050104/feature_trailtough_yjlift_install.htm
and
http://www.zukiworld.com/month_050104/feature_trailtough_questreview.htm
Good luck, Eric
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When I take the old shock tower off I take the whole bump stop part off also?
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trail toughs yj kit..........
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Thats awesome!
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When I take the old shock tower off I take the whole bump stop part off also?
I wouldn't... Where are you going to put a bumpstop? But seriously, if you look at the build article there are really detailed photos...
-Eric
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Yeah but on the pictures it looks like they took them off?
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Yeah but on the pictures it looks like they took them off?
I am at the same point.... I want to set up the YJ swap correctly AND keep my bumpstops but the acticle shows to remove them.....
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Yeah but on the pictures it looks like they took them off?
I am at the same point.... I want to set up the YJ swap correctly AND keep my bumpstops but the acticle shows to remove them.....
Hmm, good point... It has been so long since I had that Samurai I had forgotten that the original bump stop perches were removed during installation. The Samurai in the article did not have traditional bump stops on it but used the rubber stop on the Deutsch tech shocks as a bump.
-Eric
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So what your saying is they gotta go... correct?
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So what your saying is they gotta go... correct?
I'm not saying that... If it was me, I'd figure out a way to have the bump stop perch and the new shock mount live together in peaceful harmony. You know if you're struggling with this or just want more direct answers I'd give Brent a call. He's really great about answering questions on his products.
-Eric
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So what your saying is they gotta go... correct?
I'm not saying that... If it was me, I'd figure out a way to have the bump stop perch and the new shock mount live together in peaceful harmony. You know if you're struggling with this or just want more direct answers I'd give Brent a call. He's really great about answering questions on his products.
-Eric
I talked to Trail Tough on Thursday and they guy on the phone told me that they remove the bumpstops and just use the shocks that have the built in bumpstops. I have seen the shock mounts rip holes in the frame without bumpstops and the guy on the phone confirmed that this can happen when the shock mount is not welded on correctly... Sky manufacturing makes some hoops that mount behind the stock bumpstops. I have the F250 style shock mounts ordered but still not sold on using them yet. I am going to look it over once I get everything else done and see what I can come up with for a bumpstop before I cut the factory one off. I will have a bumpstop because I don't want to risk a hole in my frame.
Here is the link to the Sky shock hoop that keeps the factory bumpstop (about half way down the page) : http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/samsuspparts.htm (http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/samsuspparts.htm)
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I highly recommend a proper bumpstop, as you know it keeps the shock mount intact for its intended purpose of just holding the shock. Also remember that the TT yj kit thrusts the axle forward and the stock bumstop will no longer be centered over the axle. Also the spoa configuration causes the stock bumpstop to just barely touch the outside 1/4 of the spring plate. This lands it directly on the rear half of the ubolt and nut and quickly gets chewed.
I angled my ford shock towers and lower mounts, along with extending and angling the stock bumpstops. I also welded 1-1/2" square tubing across the spring plate to keep the ubolts from touching the rubber bumpstop, and provide more lateral contact.
Mine look like this.
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Now i had an older kit on my sammy with no missinng link rear and i just used the shocks bumpstop, but mine was kinda a special case because the springs i had were indestructable and hella flexy. most YJ springs wouldnt take the crap i threw at mine(as you can see in the pic above). thinking back now, i cut quite a few tires and had to replace a couple shocks because the bumpstop dissapeared so these days I would agree with eric about modifying the stock bumpstop to work in harmony with the shock mounted bumpstops.
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Yeah I think Ill have to figure something out.... But Figured I would share my progress so far.