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Title: smog gurus needed...
Post by: mypocketsrfull on February 11, 2010, 12:44:51 PM
i live in california and just failed smog.

my Hydrocarbons at 15mph 274
max hydrocarbons at 15 mph 154
my hydrocarbons at 25 mph 210
max hydrocarbons at 25 mph 126

my NO at 15 mph 2147
max NO at 15 mph 1166
my NO at 25mph 1592
max NO at 25 mph 1282

hopefully someone can help. i was told a new cat is needed as well as o2 sensor. anthing else? just did new cap and rotor, spark plugs. just timed it. oil changed. new oil filter.
Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: oak_raid on February 11, 2010, 06:16:57 PM
just went through it last year.  My numbers were very similar to yours, tried everything else first (including carb rebuild) to no avail.  Fianlly went and had the cat replaced, and lo and behold it passed with flying colors.
Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: wildgoody on February 11, 2010, 08:35:05 PM
You could try and cheat through, run the gas low, and pump in 2 gallons of E-85
and get it tested, bet it would pass, then either go fill with regular gas or drive the
mix out and refill, just don't let the mix stay in the tank very long, it likes to break
down non alcohol resistant rubber and plastics, won't hurt for a short time
Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: mypocketsrfull on February 12, 2010, 12:52:15 PM
so we just took it to the exhaust shop to have my brand spankin new catalytic converter from Low range put on and it turns out it's not legal in california.  :( so we had the guy put a different cat on (more $$$) and when he pulled off the old cat, the guts of it were totally gone. so new cat, just bought a new o2 sensor and hoping this will work. otherwise we may have to try some of the other "add this to your fuel" or "use this kind of fuel" techniques. does anyone know off hand if Low Range Offroad has a california smog legal catalytic converter?
Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: oak_raid on February 12, 2010, 03:43:54 PM
amazing.  Mine was exactly the same way.  Just a shell, no guts.
Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: wildgoody on February 12, 2010, 05:09:18 PM
Ya, isn't California nice, the cat that was legal just a year ago, and only cost
$75-100, is now illegal and the right one costs $250  >:(  I had to get one
put on the SideKick so I could pass smog, after I took the turbo off.

Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: Bobthebiker on February 12, 2010, 06:12:50 PM
Ya, isn't California nice, the cat that was legal just a year ago, and only cost
$75-100, is now illegal and the right one costs $250  >:(  I had to get one
put on the SideKick so I could pass smog, after I took the turbo off.


isnt that so much B__S__?    cali is about the only place that actualy gives a crap about that.  its so dumb.  down here so long as you're not blowing clouds of oil smoke, or shooting flames out the tailpipe, you're good and the cops dont care, plus nobody does inspections here. 
Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: mypocketsrfull on February 13, 2010, 08:44:02 AM
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amazing.  Mine was exactly the same way.  Just a shell, no guts.

yeah. i originally bought my dad the cat because his exhaust system was in a box when he bought the rig and i assumed he didnt have one. turns out he did, but now it turns out he just had the shell. lol i thought it was a good idea to hold onto the cat because i need one too, but now i guess it does me no good anyways.
Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: wildgoody on February 13, 2010, 09:10:56 AM
I would keep it and weld it in yourself next time you need one,
or find someone that needs it on the board, I would of bought
it and put it in my Trucklet if I knew you had one, mine cost me
plenty and I never did get the smog check  >:(

Wild
Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: mypocketsrfull on February 13, 2010, 11:25:39 AM
well our exhaust guy would have welded in for us no problem however we were not sure if our smog guy does a visual check on the cat or not. didnt want to take the risk and get flagged. i will have to have my dad ask our smog guy if he does a visual check or not. supposedly they are stamped differently. if he says no, then i may end up keeping the cat. otherwise if i sell it to someone on the board, they can get one just as easily from low range. i can also just send it back to low range and get store credit which is okay because i always buy from them and i am sure i will get use out of it.
Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: wildgoody on February 13, 2010, 06:33:06 PM
There is no way for them to know when the cat was installed, and
it could be an install from over a year ago  ;)

The old cats are not illegal, just the new ones have to be the
new much more expensive type
Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: norcalwreckchaser on February 15, 2010, 07:44:03 PM
It is my understanding that once your vehicle has failed "Peoples Republik of Kalifornia" standards, it has to go to a "C.A.R.B referee". If you cannot obtain a "stock" cat, then you can use an aftermarket cat.
I hate Kalifornia! and I grew up here!
Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: wildgoody on February 15, 2010, 08:46:08 PM
I thought it was classified as a gross polluter, but then again smog law
changes every 30 min in California  :P
Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: mypocketsrfull on February 17, 2010, 01:15:47 PM
it is amazing what a cat and o2 sensor can do. just passed smog with flying colors. i forgot the exact numbers, but hydrocarbons were about 11 and NO was i think 120 or something. i was astounded that  the numbers would go THAT low. thanks alot guys. and oh yeah california sucks. lol
Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: oak_raid on February 17, 2010, 01:45:23 PM
yeah, i went from a gross polluter to reading that were unreal, some were at or next to 0's after installing the new cat.  I was really expecting to have to smog it again this year, but I just got my renewal notice and....no smog needed! 

Just out of curiosity....what are we californians paying to register our sammies?  Mine is $67 this year.
Title: Re: smog gurus needed...
Post by: PBJ1024 on February 17, 2010, 08:25:56 PM
In Oregon we do it every 2 years.  It was $55 but they just gave us a raise to something like $75 for 2 years, plus NO need to smog anything ever!