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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Build Diaries, How-To, DIY => Topic started by: joe dirt on April 19, 2010, 03:42:40 PM
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i know its lame to link to another board, and if its not allowed let me know and ill try to re-do the build on here,..curently im about 3/4 of the way through the build with lots of pics( seems lotsa detaild pics are left out of most sas builds )
heres the link to to my build
http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=32461 (http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=32461)
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i know its lame to link to another board, and if its not allowed let me know and ill try to re-do the build on here,..curently im about 3/4 of the way through the build with lots of pics( seems lotsa detaild pics are left out of most sas builds )
heres the link to to my build
[url]http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=32461[/url] ([url]http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=32461[/url])
Yeah, that's lame... :) Would you post some of the pics and descriptions here too? That's be cool...
Thanks, Eric
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well,..slowly getting started on the sas on my 94 tracker 5spd
plans are sami front spring over using rear springs with front leaves added,(thanks phloop and stafford)..picked up a set of 33x12.50 pro comp xterains of craigslist for $100
got these 15x10 black wheels off a cj5 for $60,..ive got 3 sets of rear coils to play with diff. heights
stock rubicon coils
stock tj coils
stock xj coils
also plan to make my own rear diff spacer using witfields design on his white track/kick
ill be using 2" wheel spacers in the front to match the factory rear end width (thanks bass man)
also got some 1" d-line spacers and poly bushings for the springs (thanks stafford)
last night i was able to weld the perches on,..now hopefully tonight i can make some shackles,..prolly gunna meake 2 sets, 5" and a set of 3"...that should give me a few options to try and match front height with rear height, as im not sure yet what the jeep coils will give me for height...anyways here are a few pics of what im working with...this will prolly be a slow build as im still driving this thing to work everyday to save on diesel costs, untill im ready to burn the factory stuff off the tracker
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more pics
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also forgot to add that the sami front came from a stocker that had less than 60k on the ticker,..so im pretty sure the 4wd hasnt been used much,..only cost me 1/2 gallon of r&r.....i plan to run the stock inners for a bit while i save up for harden axles
my tracker has 5.12's so ill be using the front third in the sami axle
also picked up a custom made hard top for free from suva
here are the spacers from bass man and stafford
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spent about an hour tonight making cuts and a few welds...i caught the guys at work tossing these brackets in the dumpster,..they are what bobcat attachments are shipped with bolted to heavy duty pallets during shipping,..i tossed a bunch in a box and took them home,..i knew id be able to use them up somewhere,...also noticed 2 chunks of receiver stock getting tossed,...of course i grabbed that as well,..about 30" each
so i used my bandsaw to make them work for rear spring hangers
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sorry for the bad pics, they are taken from my cell phone in a poorly lit garage...
got them welded up and they look good for free...i plan to ramp the back end once they are welded on the frame,...ill also be making a set of shackles out of this free steel
so this is my idea for my front shackle hangers,..ill be using one of the tubes of receiver stock for the stock sami hangers (these were sawed off of phloops sami when he did his yj swap at zee's)
of course ill be extending the frame with 2x4 tubing but you get the jist of it,..im goung to wait till i get the axle under the tracker before i weld the front hangers in place
few more pics...
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got the two bottom leafs from a stock front set (thanks stafford)
i just pulled the overload off and put the two bottom leafs from the front right there...didnt bother with pulling any more of the stock rear leafs...figured it help the pack last longer
hears the bastard pack made with rears and fronts
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got a little done this morning,..had to clean up the garage to get the tracker in here and able to work around it
i was praying that i didnt have to break out the torch,...but the back a-arm bolts just wouldnt budge, and i was loosing patience, so i said screw it, and broke out the torch!!!!
still need to pull the front bumper, pull the struts, clean up the frame rails etc...but im taking a break for a few hours....
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took the 33's off the axle and put the stockers on so i could roll it under the tracker for a visual...
this thing is gunna be TALL!!...although im sure the springs will flatten out alot once the weight is on them...i still need to torch all the extra crap off the frame,..but this is how it looks now..ill prolly weld up all the mounts and get the axle fully squared up and bolted in before i do the weight removal off the frame,..then just bolt it back in when done...
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:updade:
had the mounts made and tacked into place,..yesterday i got home and was going to weld it all in, but noticed i was off about 3/16ths on 2 mounts...so now im backwards in progress...had to grind the tacks off and re-do it all....
i wont be taking pictures of my screw up!!!
ok,..re did the mounts and tacked them in place...also mounted the 33's without the spacers...im pretty happy with the stance...give me room for 35's in the future with a sami case and 2wd tranny....
hows the shackle angle look?..
also had some help mounting the tires from the fianc'es youngest
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been slow on the tracker for a few days,..had softball games to attend and had to work outta town...
i got a little done tough,...got the welds all done on the mounts,..ramped the rear mounts,...i still need to plate in a few spots,...but im tired....this solid axle swap seemed alot easier over beers and conversation.....
heres a few pics of where im at
the rear ramps look like hell that size,...but remember, ....im still using free scraps from work...the steel from work was only 2" wide...so it had to do
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jesus h......the front strut/coil mounts were a bitch to get off!!!...i started torching one off and ran out of oxy about 2" into the cut...so i dug out my sawzall and couldnt find the dame blades for it...argh!!!...i was forced to use the bent out of shape worn out blade that i still had in the sawzall...halfway through the first mount i hit the motor mount behind it and jammed my wrist from the buck of the saw...at this point i broke out the grinder and cutting wheel and went to town on them,...it was about 11:00pm when the neighbors started complaining about the noise...had to call it a night
finished getting them cutt of this morning
decided to throw the spacers on the front and put the wheels on,..got anxious and pulled the stock coils outta the rear and threw in the stock rubicon coils in the rear....looks like im about 4 1/2" low in the rear...so looks like im going to cut the mounts off the frame and drop them to the bottom of the frame to get it level
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jesus h......the front strut/coil mounts were a bitch to get off!!!...i started torching one off and ran out of oxy about 2" into the cut...so i dug out my sawzall and couldnt find the dame blades for it...argh!!!...i was forced to use the bent out of shape worn out blade that i still had in the sawzall...halfway through the first mount i hit the motor mount behind it and jammed my wrist from the buck of the saw...at this point i broke out the grinder and cutting wheel and went to town on them,...it was about 11:00pm when the neighbors started complaining about the noise...had to call it a night
finished getting them cutt of this morning
decided to throw the spacers on the front and put the wheels on,..got anxious and pulled the stock coils outta the rear and threw in the stock rubicon coils in the rear....looks like im about 4 1/2" low in the rear...so looks like im going to cut the mounts off the frame and drop them to the bottom of the frame to get it level
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ok,...decisions decisions....i can either do as i was thinking,dropping the coil mounts on the rear,....or keep the front spring under...that will drop the front 4" and level it out nicely,...but in order to run the 33's ive got,..im going to have to run a 3" body lift...i was originally against doing a body lift,...ive just never liked them,..but in this case it would be ideal to clear the 33's
id like to get some feed back on this as im kinda at a stall on this build,..i dont wanna cut the mounts off yet...
im trying to keep this build cheap as i can get...
re-doing mounts...$free minus wire,02,extra fab time...
diy body lift....8grade bolts 3"square tubing....close to the free price
kinda up in the air still....
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here is the plan for the rear...as stated above im having issues getting the rear the same as the front...instead of cutting off the mounts and rewelding them lower,...was thinking of using the front spring mount with a piece of 2x4 tube as a spacer to achieve the 4 1/2 difference in height...also this would give me more to help capture the coil springs over stock....
whatcha think??
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couldnt sit around doing nothing...so i drank a few more beers and made the decision to just weld the home made spacer in ther....no going back now...id have to say...it set damn near perfect now...here are a few pics of how it set now...
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some before and after pics of the custom spacer...
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and a mug shot....with the kid resting on my shoulder ??? ???
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ok,...your all caught up to date,...sorry if this build looks like it was done in just a few min.,..i just copied and pasted from my original build,..ill keep ya posted of what im doing,...right now im working on little stuff,....like shock towers, brakes, steering, gussets, etc...ill get pics of all the little stuff as well,...thats the kinda stuff that seems to be missing in most of the build threads out there,...trust me,...ive probly read every sas thread out there for these...lol
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thanks for the write up. real nice work!
i note the original post dates- you really powered on this project!
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thanks,...this is actually my daily driver...i need to get it finished as diesel prices are geting high,...i need to park my lifted powerstroke!!!
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Cool! Thanks for posting up the pics and descriptions.... Very cool...
+1 TP
Eric
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It's looking good, I'd like to see the rest of it. Nice idea using the front spring cups and a spacer for the rear. Cheap is good, free is better ;)
If you eventually plan on doing a Samurai case and 2wd trans, then would you swap the rear axle too to match the offset of the Samurai case?
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I say stick with the suspension lift, but you should probably check out what your driveline angles are going to be like in the rear before you make a decision. Great looking work though!
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built the top link spacer last night, but i didnt like it "stepped or staggard",..so ill be moving the rear bottom links a tad lower and longer to center the wheel in the wheelwell,..after i do that ill be able to cut and extend the top link as well and not have to stagger the spacer,...by the way,...spacer is about 5" tall,...and made from super strong reciever stock...its going to have to due untill i can afford to do a complete link system in the rear
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changed my mind,..ill extend the links later and use this,..im getting impatent!!!
its built from reciever stock and staggerd 2 1/2"..4" tall
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Are you going to add a brace that bolts back to the top of your axle for extra strength?
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i was looking at a easy way to weld a few tabs to the top of the diff and to the back of the spacer,..then just bolt on the "stabilizer" to the top of the diff...i dont like the spacer at all but im sure that will help ease my concerns
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well dug around in the shed and found a complete set of billstiens,...not sure what they came off of but he end piece looks like jeep,..fully extended they are 24" long...
so me being a cheap bastard,..i cut the ends off the stockers and modified these billstiens with the stock ends...now i dont have to go but rear shocks!!!
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Very nice. For a second I thought I was looking at mine. I am just finishing my SAS with sammy diff and YJ leafs. Mine is SPUA and only on 31's right now but 34's are in the works. Here is a pic. Keep up the awesome work. ;D
(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd240/mtauto/IMG_2437.jpg)
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allout,...you got a build thread on that thing?...looks good and clean!!! nice job
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Thanks. I am working on a build thread. Just have to get all the pics together. By the looks of your fabrication skills you could build a new Y link for the rear and get rid of the weak ball joint. Have a look at this build, I have seen this in person and it is well done, near the bottom of the first page. This is what I am going to build next. I have something similar but not as nice. Here is a link to the page.
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/build-diaries-how-to-diy/project-kickota/ (http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/build-diaries-how-to-diy/project-kickota/)
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ive read the whole thread...nice rig for sure!!!
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super sweet build.....I love it!
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allout,...you got a build thread on that thing?...looks good and clean!!! nice job
I still don't have a build thread but some is documented here. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3853054 (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3853054)
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I still don't have a build thread but some is documented here. [url]http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3853054[/url] ([url]http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3853054[/url])
wow a really nice job done to your tracker
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Thanks. Sorry joe dirt, I don't want to hijack your thread so I will start my own.
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took today off to try and get this road worthy,..my turbo in my powerstroke took a dump on me so i need to drive this to work
got the front shock towers built and in,..ended up using a 1" d-line spacer in the rear and front,..threw some $.97 black spray paint on the welds and took it for a spin
i need to get my ott steering done,..this thing wanders all over the place!!!!...still need to ballance the tires,...les shwab want $70 bux!!!!
need to find some softer shocks for the rear,..the ones i got now are off a stock tahoe,...way to stiff!!!!!!
anyways here are a few pics of the shock tower and after its first trip on the road
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not too wide...i think it looks mean!!!!! 8)
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Looks awesome. How are the 33's on there for sucking up the power. I am undecided about whether to go 33/10.50 or 33/12.50. Again nice lookin rig
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Looks great.
Is there a reason you didn't do a reverse shackle?
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Looks great.
Is there a reason you didn't do a reverse shackle?
last s/r i did was on a sammy and i had to have a longer splined front driveline,...i wanted to keep this build cheap and didnt want to spend extra on a longer slip driveline
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havnt done much in last few days,..been driving it to work all week,..i was getting scared i may get pulled over so i decided to try and fir the front bumper back on,..had to cut out where the frame extesions are and angle the front to clear the tires at full lock...then took some cheap black spray bomb to the inner fenders and gave the body a bath...
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It's looking good. Nice work!
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took the lift out on my lunch and did a quick lift on the passenger tire...ive still got the stock brake lines on so i had to cut the flex test short...
here are some quickie cell pics
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Looks like you, me, and "alllout" all need to get together!!! How funny, so many big green trackers!!
(http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg246/mrbracket12/Geo%20Tracker/g09.jpg)
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doing some more changes on the tracker,...pulled the 1.6 out and working on a 1.8l swap...ill post more when i get home from work tonight...