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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Technical Discussion - Beginner / Repair => Topic started by: Bobthebiker on May 16, 2010, 12:49:04 PM

Title: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: Bobthebiker on May 16, 2010, 12:49:04 PM
alrigt, Im attempting to remove the doors today,  right now I'm at the point of drilling the bolts out and replacing them with some other form of bolt, like a hex head because so far I've started to round out a few, snapped a screwdriver, and frankly, I just cant come up with a better way.   

they're not rusted in that I can tell,  but they sure the hell dont want to com out.   anyone got any good ideas before I take the drillbit and punch a hole clean through?
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: elf on May 16, 2010, 02:31:04 PM
When i first removed my doors i had to use a impact screwdriver the kind you hold and hit with a hammer the vibration was enough to to break to the screw lose.
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: Bobthebiker on May 16, 2010, 04:03:07 PM
I got em.  ended up destroying all the screws, but I got em.   I simply got mad and used my drill, which evidently made enough vibration n a few,   the rest I used a chisel and 3lb sledge as an impact driver on.  worked.
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: elf on May 16, 2010, 06:09:13 PM
hope your planning on cutting the hinges so you can just pop the doors off if ya want. makes summer alot more fun!!
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: Bobthebiker on May 16, 2010, 06:15:39 PM
yep. I absolutely am.   LOVE how it feels without the doors.  I do a lot of jump in and jump out kind of stuff, and opening doors gets old.
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: oak_raid on May 17, 2010, 08:18:46 AM
the impact screwdriver is what I used also. 
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: lv2fsh on May 17, 2010, 10:04:53 AM
I always used a combination of a small pair of vise grips and a screwdriver. If you're careful, you can grab the outside of the screw with the vise grips and help turn it with screwdriver. Haven't had to dril one yet.
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: Bobthebiker on May 17, 2010, 10:36:21 AM
These phillips head screws are just poorly planned, because really you have to destroy them just to remove em.   they're way too soft.      my luck with grabbing the buggers with pliers of ANY sort is pretty much crap until I have it like halfway out so I can get a solid bite.
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: Drone637 on May 17, 2010, 12:32:41 PM
One trick is to take a cutting wheel on your grinder and cutting a new notch in the screws.  Then you can use a large flat-head screwdriver to run the screws out.

The other is to use a large Phillips screw drive and a hammer.  Smack it into place a few times with the hammer before trying to turn. 
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: Bobthebiker on May 17, 2010, 12:47:47 PM
tried both. just rounded out the head with the phillips,  and BROKE my favorite flathead.  which pushed me over the edge and I just said  **** IT! YOU'RE GETTING DESTROYED!
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: jow003 on May 18, 2010, 06:09:30 AM
im havin the same prob.  i bought a impact driver for this specific prob and to no avail! i cant get even one to budge.  i thought about just taking a cutter to the top hinge arm with em attached but i may need to try this sledge idea >:D...
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: ecoast on May 18, 2010, 11:11:03 AM
hold a soldering iron on it to heat, then chisel counter-clockwise
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: Spokerider on May 18, 2010, 03:29:23 PM
Plan A.......impact driver.

Plan B.......weld a nut onto the screw head.
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: ack on May 18, 2010, 08:47:05 PM
Plan A.......impact driver.

Plan B.......weld a nut onto the screw head.

Plan C...... Heat the bolt head with a propane torch like one would use to solder copper pipe together until the paint bubbles.  This breaks down the threadlock and causes the bolts to unthread fairly easily.

I have successfully done Plan B on the door bolts but I could never get Plan A to work.  I always ended up buggering the head.
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: wildgoody on May 20, 2010, 07:56:45 AM
Plan B also performs Plan C, so regardless you should
be able to get them out after that
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: jow003 on May 20, 2010, 08:12:36 AM
ill add that to the list of things to do during the SPOA... not much off track haha
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: MadMaxZuki on May 21, 2010, 03:34:57 PM
i had trouble with plan B, the heat wasnt enough. i also had bad luck with the impact driver. i found an impact drill works the best. turn the bolt into a flat head and get a 5/16 head and use an impact drill.
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: Bobthebiker on May 21, 2010, 03:45:28 PM
i had trouble with plan B, the heat wasnt enough. i also had bad luck with the impact driver. i found an impact drill works the best. turn the bolt into a flat head and get a 5/16 head and use an impact drill.
My drill is a hammer drill, which basically pounded it into submissin and got the screws loose MY WAY.
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: marklukich on May 31, 2010, 03:19:59 PM
Figured I'd try it...  Took the DeWalt Hammer-Drill and a #3 bit...  Came out like they were never tight at all...  Guess I got lucky...
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: woof359 on May 31, 2010, 03:58:35 PM
i found on the last 2 I had once you drill off the head the blts unscrew, its the head putting torque on the threaded part. no impact driver, youll dent the fender big time !!!!
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: jow003 on June 01, 2010, 05:24:58 AM
this weekend i bought a shiny new 3lb hammer, combining that with the impact driver and all 8 screws came out almost like someone had loosened em for me. 
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: TopHeavy96 on June 01, 2010, 05:16:42 PM
I think part of the problem with the impact driver is that alot of people think you just have to smack it.  Actually, you gotta apply some torque in the direction you need it to go, then smack it.
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: doughboy0379 on June 02, 2010, 03:19:33 AM
When I did my doors I cut both sides of the screw then but vise grips on to what was left, I then put in normal hex head bolts.
Title: Re: taking the doors off, bolts are stuck GOOD and tight.
Post by: jow003 on June 02, 2010, 05:09:28 AM
I think part of the problem with the impact driver is that alot of people think you just have to smack it.  Actually, you gotta apply some torque in the direction you need it to go, then smack it.

Ya, if youve never used one before it takes a little while to get the hang of it, the ticket for me was buyin a big |removethispart|@$$ hammer, my standard sized hammer just wasnt heavy enough