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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: ed oorklep on May 31, 2005, 12:18:53 AM
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Wich manual did you find most usefull ??? I want to get me one of them but don't know which one is better (and I know Haynes has some faults in it)......
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I suggest you get a factory service manual. Way better than either the Haynes or Chilton.
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But then there's the question where do I get this ??? the haynes or chilton are easy to get..... and as far as I know there is no one over here (the netherlands) selling a FSM  >:(
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I found the Chiltons has more info on both the Sammy and Kick but the Haynes is geared more towards the Sammy.
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Could try http://www.books4cars.com/ for a FSM. They'll ship overseas (but could be spendy).
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Could try [url]http://www.books4cars.com/[/url] for a FSM. They'll ship overseas (but could be spendy).
Compared to their prices, I paid less from Hawk's Strictly Suzuki for my 95 FSM's.
But they're EXPENSIVE!
Do I think the factory Service Manuals are WORTH $250?
You BET I do!
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$250 ???
"92 Tracker Service Manual by Geo  (92_Tracker_Svc)
$44.95
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granted, I've seen them cheaper on ebay (~35 or so), but not $250 ...
(A newer model search turned up ... "2002 Tracker Shop Service Repair Manual 3 Vol. Set By GEO Chevrolet (B02_GMT02JE)
$149.95" so that's getting spendy ...)
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$250 ???
"92 Tracker Service Manual by Geo  (92_Tracker_Svc)
$44.95
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Yeah - for the 95 Sidekick, you need the 93 FSM, the 94/95 Supplement, and the 92-95 Parts guide.
Well, you don't NEED the parts guide, but it does two things for you - it shows you how all the parts go together (better than the FSM), and it gives you the CORRECT Suzuki part number for all the parts, so there's no question.
The first time I asked the Suzuki Parts Guy for timing chain tensioners for my wife's 99 GV, I got 1 tensioner for a 99 GV, 1 tensioner for a 98 1.8L 4-banger, and no third tensioner at all! Now, I tell them the part numbers I need, and they get the RIGHT parts to me.
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I went in to get mine (it's close so no shipping) ...
For the 91, it wasn't spendy at all (something like $55 for the FSM and electrical supplement). Was nice to be able to compare both the "geo" and "suzuki" manuals and they were the same ("geo" was laid out wierd and index wasn't as good, but content was the same).
From what you're saying maybe I do want the "89-93 Tracker Parts & Illustration Catalog by Geo (91_Track_Part) $59.95" ... i dunno maybe.
For the '95 they have "95 Tracker Shop Service Repair Manual by Geo (95_Trak_Svc) $79.95" and "92-95 Sidekick Parts Manual by Suzuki (935_Side_Parts) $89.95" ... I do see tho how going with all "suzuki manuals" does add up for a 95 ...
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So if I want everything right I'd have to buy:
92-95 Sidekick Parts Manual by Suzuki\n (935_Side_Parts)
$89.95
89-93 Tracker Parts & Illustration Catalog by Geo (91_Track_Part)
$59.95
92 Tracker Service Manual by Geo (92_Tracker_Svc)
$44.95
These 3, for my 1992 Vitara (CAMI built so the same as the kick's and trackers...)
With shipping that'd be costly I guess..... It's allready about $200 without shipping :o
Hmmm, thanks for the help boys! might eventually still get the chiltons as it costs about 1/10th of this ::)
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as far as the sidekick goes the haynes manual sucks ass. i paid $30 for mine only to find it useless, so i gave it away. i've got the .pdf version of it now, and it still sucks ass ;D
i can't speak for the chilton's but i've heard it aint any better.
i would like to find a fsm for a good price.
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You can usually find a tracker or sidekick FSM on ebay. Buy it now prices around 50-60, sometimes less if they are showing some grease.
I had that haynes weird ass sidekick/samurai combo book, but the first thing I did after buying my sidekick was was pony up 12% of the purchase price to buy the service manual. Money well spent.
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Is it Haynes publishes Chiltons or the other way around? I know they are the same company, just can't remember.
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This website not as good as a FSM but beats the Haynes manual .
Regards Charlie
http://www1.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?ForwardPage=/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/1f/0a/04/0900823d801f0a04.jsp&eraseCrumbs=YES ;D
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Great site charlie, gonna keep that in my favorites to use in addition to my chilton's I've ordered. But isn't this page password protected (or should it be?). The reason I wanted a book because I wanted to have something on paper without needing to print first ;D But thanks for all the tips guys 8)
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Some people have told me you need to register but I've not had to ? at least for the repair guides,the more detailed manuals with part number need registration and payment.
Regards Charlie
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So if I want everything right I'd have to buy:
92-95 Sidekick Parts Manual by Suzuki\n  (935_Side_Parts)
$89.95
89-93 Tracker Parts & Illustration Catalog by Geo  (91_Track_Part)
$59.95
92 Tracker Service Manual by Geo  (92_Tracker_Svc)
$44.95
These 3, for my 1992 Vitara (CAMI built so the same as the kick's and trackers...)
With shipping that'd be costly I guess..... It's allready about $200 without shipping  :o
Hmmm, thanks for the help boys! might eventually still get the chiltons as it costs about 1/10th of this  ::)
I'd say you're fine with the "92 Tracker Service Manual by Geo" ... the parts books are probably useful, but only if you have to deal with brain dead parts guys. You certainly wouldn't need both parts books (my guess their nearly identical anyway).
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I've used both Haynes (uncle bought me the wrong one, but still) & Chilton (borrowed from a friend). The Haynes are presented more in lay man's terms, meaning compared to Chilton it's more geared towards the newbie mechanic (and they have a troubleshoot guide near the beginning)
With Chilton you should know what's wrong beforehand to be able to find the section you need.
Hope this helps!
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Crawdaddy, It does help! I have a digital version of Haynes so I can look what's wrong in there and use the Chilton's to do the "real"work on the car  ;)
BTW welcome aboard! and show us your ride ;)
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BTW welcome aboard! and show us your ride ;)
Sorry for this off-topic post, but...
Thanks, Ed! :)
I haven't taken pics lately and I only have a few mods on:
'97 4-door Vitara
Samurai manual locking hubs
.5 & 1-inch coil spacers (front & rear respectively)
2.5-inch body lift
30" Kangaroo tires
Removed stock fender flares for additional clearance for the tires :D
AND my friend changed the stock grill to a Vitara Plus grill (same design as a Tracker's)
I *might* go trailing this weekend (still not sure if I'll have unfinished work to be done by then) and if I do I'll post new pics in my CarDomain: http://members.cardomain.com/crawdaddy4x4ph