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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: hcgalvin on June 09, 2004, 06:17:08 AM
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Hey all... I'm in the middle of an article for a budget 4 Door lift on my site... check it out and tell me what you think so far!
http://www.whitepineclub.com/offroad/tech/budgetbodylift/index.htm
Thanks guys..
Heather
EDIT: I think I am done! Check it out!
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Very clear so far. Great!
I think your average dumby could probably figure it out.
The drawings and pics. are very good and helpful.
Cwkick
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its nice but why won't it work on a 2 door?
stu
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I dunno... it prolly will...  ::)
I just seem to only work on 4 doors  ???  :P ;D
Heather
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what about steering?
stu
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what about steering?
stu
I didn't have to do anything with the steering on this truck (it's not power steering), and I didn't have to do anything with the steering on my truck (it IS power steering) either... :o
so..
hum..
WHAT has to be done to the steering? ???
Heather
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my 93 2 door has a shaft with out a slider joint in it. some do, some don't. i had to take my shaft out and weld an socket into it to make it right.
stu
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why did u use xj or tj spacers...?
u can get 2 inch tracker ones at roadless gear...
http://www.roadlessgear.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SM-CS-001&Category_Code=SU&Store_Code=RGL
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Dead link for me :(
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Haven't read it completely yet but I think it works on 2 doors as well, did mine about the same way (only without spring spacers, YET). And for the air filter hose being to short thingy, I put on an open air filter..... and soon a snorkel ;D
BUT I like this page and will send it to everyone who ever has a question about body-lift or spacer lift ;D THANKS Heather ;D
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Dead link for me :(
works for me? ???
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oh about the air filter tube, i used one of the tubes off a 5.0 F-150. you just cut it to lengh and work it over the out and inlets. i used some oil to help it over.
stu
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Because, (if you don't like to wait for shipping...) you can find XJ or TJ coil spring spacers at most ANY 4x4 shop in any town, and they usually carry them in STOCK. And... I find they have been cheaper for me.
Heather
why did u use xj or tj spacers...?
u can get 2 inch tracker ones at roadless gear...
[url]http://www.roadlessgear.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=SM-CS-001&Category_Code=SU&Store_Code=RGL[/url]
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makes sense i never thoght about that one,....
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my 93 2 door has a shaft with out a slider joint in it.  some do, some don't.  i had to take my shaft out and weld an socket into it to make it right.
stu
Stu here's what I did for the steering linkage and my welding's not bad either looked like a roll of nickles around the shaft, then I grounded the welds down and painted it black. If you have a spare shaft laying around I'd do it again for you. - CZ
(http://www.kielbassa.com/pictures/DSCF0002.JPG)
(http://www.kielbassa.com/pictures/DSCF0003.JPG)
Not bad since I haven't done any welding since 1995. ;D
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Hey all... I'm in the middle of an article for a budget 4 Door lift on my site... check it out and tell me what you think so far!
[url]http://www.whitepineclub.com/offroad/tech/budgetbodylift/index.htm[/url]
Thanks guys..
Heather
EDIT: I think I am done! Check it out!
Heather,
That's a nice article....
-Eric
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Great job Heather(http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/099.gif)
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Very nice write up. Thanks.
BTW, concerning the problem... "Another thing to worry about, if you have an 8 valve, your air hose to your air box may not stretch as far as it needs to." ... maybe a 2" Throttle Body Spacer would help close the gap :)
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An 8 valves in a 4 doors with stock gears and 31"!!!
Hum probably the sludgest track/kick on road.
And what happen with shifters in your article?
Fredo
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dumb question....but
with coil spacers is it still posible to properly do an alignment, and will coil spacer lifts hurt the track/kick?
i want to this...not so much to save money but i like the decent stock ride of factory suspension. it's not a cadilac, but NOT a Samurai. So to me the coil spacer lift seems the best way to lift the truck and maintain acceptable ride comfort.
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An 8 valves in a 4 doors with stock gears and 31"!!!
Hum probably the sludgest track/kick on road
Fredo
HA! try 34's with 5.12's in a stick. works great in the mud, all the wheel speed you can handle.
stu
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The entire site still isn't working for me... multiple browsers and a few restarts, too ???
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Dumb question:
Will the strut mount flip work if the struts have been "slotted" for the recent alignment?
J
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Heather, Great Article 8) The only thing I noticed that you may want to add, is a comment about going and getting it alligned after the install is complete.
Great Job ;)
Zig
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I definately want to get a close up comparison on the differences of the 2 door snd 4 door steering. That's cool that you did not have to extend the steering shaft to do a 3" body lift.
Zig
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NOt working for me still....didnt' work last night either.
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do u think u could do that same thing but with a 3x4 block of metal for an extra inch and run 32's?
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Heather, it appears to be a rightful way of getting the info out to people. Thanks.
Question: why is it necessary to relocate the stock rubber spring pad (also known as an isolator) below the spacer?
My Jeep spacer for the rear has a wider diameter than the bracket. So I left the spring pad in stock location.
Couple of things:
- state something along the fact that you are not implying any responsibility for any action that any owner takes using this information. (Had a friend do something similar years ago, it's still in litigation and it cost's him money to defend himself everytime.)
- Define what a bump stop is, it's function, and add that the bump stops have to be address for the tire being used. Suggestion, rear is pretty simple. Could leave the stock upper bump stop alone or replace it like the front. Drill a 3/8" center hole in the bottom spring plate (axle), then add the bump stop extension for a XJ/TJ. (I think you can get in different heights; it's a disc which can be bolted in.)
- for the front bump stop, you can't drill into the spring plate on the stock control arm. You'll have to extend it from the top. The Daystar Jeep spacer kit will come with one that is longer. Problem is that the bolt is not the correct one. Suggest to drill out the stock hole and re-tap the new hole, or add a smaller bolt. Potential problem with smaller bolt, is it strong enough to handle hard landings?
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Thanks guys for the responses, this really helps me out.
I did notice that I forgot to mention the shifter extensions, ... whoops, so that will definately have to be added. :-[
An 8 valves in a 4 doors with stock gears and 31"!!!
Hum probably the sludgest track/kick on road.
And what happen with shifters in your article?
Fredo
Not if it has an auto with 5.12's .... ;D
dumb question....but
with coil spacers is it still posible to properly do an alignment, and will coil spacer lifts hurt the track/kick?
i want to this...not so much to save money but i like the decent stock ride of factory suspension. it's not a cadilac, but NOT a Samurai. So to me the coil spacer lift seems the best way to lift the truck and maintain acceptable ride comfort.
Putting in the coil spacers did change the camber somewhat, this can be adjusted by using your strut adjuster bolt, or taking it to get an alignment (so yes, I will have to put that in the article too). However, on this truck, once everything was back together and we took it for a test drive, the springs and camber settled almost all the way into place on it's own.
Heather, it appears to be a rightful way of getting the info out to people. Thanks.
Question: why is it necessary to relocate the stock rubber spring pad (also known as an isolator) below the spacer?
My Jeep spacer for the rear has a wider diameter than the bracket. So I left the spring pad in stock location.
Couple of things:
- state something along the fact that you are not implying any responsibility for any action that any owner takes using this information. (Had a friend do something similar years ago, it's still in litigation and it cost's him money to defend himself everytime.)
- Define what a bump stop is, it's function, and add that the bump stops have to be address for the tire being used. Suggestion, rear is pretty simple. Could leave the stock upper bump stop alone or replace it like the front. Drill a 3/8" center hole in the bottom spring plate (axle), then add the bump stop extension for a XJ/TJ. (I think you can get in different heights; it's a disc which can be bolted in.)
- for the front bump stop, you can't drill into the spring plate on the stock control arm. You'll have to extend it from the top. The Daystar Jeep spacer kit will come with one that is longer. Problem is that the bolt is not the correct one. Suggest to drill out the stock hole and re-tap the new hole, or add a smaller bolt. Potential problem with smaller bolt, is it strong enough to handle hard landings?
The reason that I put the rubber pad AFTER the coil spacer is because springs and spacers tend to squeak. The rubber pad tends to quiet this some (I have seen).
Thanks for the info on the other things, but with a 3" body lift, coil spacers, and 31's I have yet to see the bumpstop/tire size combination create too much of a problem. The tires seem to keep themselves far enough away from the fenderwells.
Yes, I will have to put some disclaimer on the site too. I should be able to get this stuff up by the end of today sometime.
Again, thanks, all.
Heather
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any better?
I changed a few small things.
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The entire site still isn't working for me... multiple browsers and a few restarts, too ???
Right now everything but ebay and google work for me... :P ???
Oh well...
Time to reformat.
Heather
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Dammit... someone mirror that guide so I can see it (heather, if you'd like to zip up the guide and email it to me (explosivo|removethispart|@ascaps.com) I'd be happy to mirror it for you on my site :))
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Dammit... someone mirror that guide so I can see it (heather, if you'd like to zip up the guide and email it to me (explosivo|removethispart|@ascaps.com) I'd be happy to mirror it for you on my site :))
Ok... now that is something I have never done... zip up my article that is live-written directly to our unix webserver using Front page...
I wouldn't know how to copy it and get all the pictures and the text correct to be able to send it to you.
But it'd be a neat thing to learn if anybody knows and could tell me..
Heather
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Ok... now that is something I have never done... zip up my article that is live-written directly to our unix webserver using Front page...
I wouldn't know how to copy it and get all the pictures and the text correct to be able to send it to you.
But it'd be a neat thing to learn if anybody knows and could tell me..
Heather
I got it...if anyone needs it I can send it to ya.  Not everything will work, but I think you will be able to get the idea.
Here's how I did it.
1. Create a folder to put everything in.
2. Click "view" then "source" at the top of the browser
3. after clicking "source" windows notepad should open and you should see a lot of html.
4. save file into the new folder, when saveing files make sure to save them as  ".htm" files.
5. right click on all the pictures and save picture in to the same folder.
6. repeat steps for each page, but save it into the same folder.
If you know how to read html you may have to go through it and change some of it to make all the pictures show up.
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Ahhh...
duh... guess I coulda done it that way... but I was looking for the easy way.. :P
Oh well..
It's weird that some people have trouble getting to the site... as if their ISP's aren't letting it through for some reason.
Heather
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Ahhh...
duh... guess I coulda done it that way... but I was looking for the easy way.. :P
Oh well..
It's weird that some people have trouble getting to the site... as if their ISP's aren't letting it through for some reason.
Heather
No problems here your site loads normal and all photo's are displayed normal, And I'm using Windows Office XP. ;)
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No problems here your site loads normal and all photo's are displayed normal, And I'm using Windows Office XP.  ;)
There's such a thing as "Windows Office XP" ? :o
;D
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An 8 valves in a 4 doors with stock gears and 31"!!!
Hum probably the sludgest track/kick on road.
And what happen with shifters in your article?
Fredo
I think it is an auto with 4.62s, so the 5.12s almost equal 5.83s.
Also takes care of the shifter issue.
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Dammit... someone mirror that guide so I can see it (heather, if you'd like to zip up the guide and email it to me (explosivo|removethispart|@ascaps.com) I'd be happy to mirror it for you on my site :))
We had a problem with a route on our ISP.
It has been corrected. Please try again.
Thanks,
~Nate
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Still no go for me. >:(
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Still no go for me.  >:(
Ditto.
I don't believe it's worked for me for quite some time... your avatar's been a red x for several weeks... >:(
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Ditto.
I don't believe it's worked for me for quite some time... your avatar's been a red x for several weeks... >:(
avatar?
i belive i was supposed to amke the pic u made of me my avatar but i dotn wat that is!
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Ditto.
I don't believe it's worked for me for quite some time... your avatar's been a red x for several weeks... >:(
Who's avatar?
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Ditto.
I don't believe it's worked for me for quite some time... your avatar's been a red x for several weeks... >:(
That's weird... my avatar was hosted through cardomain...... (not on my local site)  ???  :o
And my other avatar (the one in my signature) is at keilbassa...
Heather
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That's weird... my avatar was hosted through cardomain...... (not on my local site)  ???  :o
And my other avatar (the one in my signature) is at keilbassa...
Heather
I was talking about your hubby's 'tar :) ... that one's hosted at whitepineclub.com
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Man. That so does not make sense. I just checked the stats for that article, and I've had almost 600 hits since I posted a link on this forum.
Wild. So... some people have to be seeing it..
(I know I can see it at work...)
Heather
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You sure you can't just go into your server and nab the folder this article is contained within, compress it and send it to me? :(
Could always just rip the guide (http://www.httrack.com/) and then zip the folder and send it to me... I'm really wanting to see this article, even if I'm never going to use the information... not being able to see it is driving me nuts :(
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Sigh..
I think we did find a problem. Apparently we haven't gotten any hits since this morning. We are trying to correct the problem.
Heather
You sure you can't just go into your server and nab the folder this article is contained within, compress it and send it to me? :(
Could always just rip the guide ([url]http://www.httrack.com/[/url]) and then zip the folder and send it to me... I'm really wanting to see this article, even if I'm never going to use the information... not being able to see it is driving me nuts :(
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(http://www.kielbassa.com/pictures/wtfripperblguide.gif)
WTF... the ripper is ripping it, yet I'm unable to view it in any of my browsers... I guess I'll finally be able to see it in a few minutes, and, with your permission, mirror it for you. :)
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Woohoo try it now
Heather
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Oddly enough, it works now... ???
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Oddly enough, it works now... ???
Router puked.
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Router puked.
Still weird that I've not been able to access your page for a few weeks... didn't really think anything of it until I wanted to see the article :)
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Still weird that I've not been able to access your page for a few weeks... didn't really think anything of it until I wanted to see the article :)
Still broken for you?
~Nate
MODIFIED:  Nevermind.  I just read your post. Thats the service I get for hosting it out of my laundry room.
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Hey, it's better than paying someone for really crappy amounts of bandwidth and diskspace :)
BTW, it's so wierd actually being able to see your avatar now :P
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avatar=sign=me not confused
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how many body mounts do 2 doors have? cuzz im sure you could do the same thing for the body lift .
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WoW :o Very nice! Well written article... I searched for weeks to complie the info you have just made available in one central location.
(http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/Smileys/default/thumb.gif)
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Cool! My article is now mirrored on Zuwharrie.com!
http://www.zuwharrie.com/
;D
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Cool! My article is now mirrored on Zuwharrie.com!
[url]http://www.zuwharrie.com/[/url]
;D
your famous!
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Now if they'd only have mirrored it a few days ago ;)
But yeah, it's a good article. Almost makes me wish I didn't drop $1000 on the Calmini lift... could've done so many other, more useful mods (steel front diff, lockers, etc.)
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Cool! My article is now mirrored on Zuwharrie.com!
[url]http://www.zuwharrie.com/[/url]
;D
ANd Top of Front page Billing too... Nice!!!
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Love it Heather! :D I enjoy all of you and your hubby's work on 4-doors!! Keep it comin'!! By the way, I have been getting into welding, fun stuff! My first project after I get a day off is to do the 'ol swinging spare tire arm. I have been studying the pics from your site and I had a few questions! I'll make sure to PM ya!
steveo