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Title: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: tracker8wr on June 07, 2004, 05:43:55 PM
hey spider tax sells tubing by the foot.


http://www.spidertrax.com/fabrication.htm
Title: Re: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: explosivo on June 08, 2004, 06:17:30 AM
Me?

Thanks for the link :)

Next question: What is the common size of tube used in rollcages? Something like 1-3/8" tubing 1/4" thick? Or would I need something bigger?
Title: Re: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: 92Sidekick4x4 on June 08, 2004, 07:01:19 AM
I would guess 1/4" shoudl be fine thats pretty tough shit, hard to bend as well unless you have a good bender
Title: Re: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: Mike71 on June 08, 2004, 09:18:10 AM
i think i remember reading something about 1.5 DOM or something..not to sure
Title: Re: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: nc_zuk on June 08, 2004, 09:34:15 AM
1 5/8's .120 walli s pretty common ;)
Title: Re: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: explosivo on June 08, 2004, 10:20:31 AM
I only need 1/8" (0.125") sidewalls? w00t! Saves me some money on the thicker stuff... not like I need a cage that'll save me at high speeds ;D
Title: Re: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: explosivo on June 08, 2004, 10:58:54 AM
Alright, I've been trying to figure out a way to mount the rollbar/cage that I want to build in my tracker... and I came up with this drawing:

(http://www.kielbassa.com/pictures/a.roll.bar.gif)

Would it work if I were to weld a nut or another piece of threaded pipe into the end that is to be attached to the floorboards, weld a plate onto the end of the pipe with a hole in the center, and sandwich it with another piece of plate. Then it would all be secured with a bolt on each corner.

Sorry if you can't understand what I'm saying... that's why the picture was included ;D
Title: Re: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: DaddyDave on June 08, 2004, 11:50:54 AM
why not just weld the whole thing.  Be much easier than designing a bolt in plate, etc.    most cages are built for 1.5" x.120 wall DOM tubing, not pipe!!
Title: Re: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: explosivo on June 08, 2004, 12:00:54 PM
I should've specified: This is for mounting it to the floor. The rest will be welded together. And I will be using DOM tubing, I might even order it from the link posted by the original poster. :)
Title: Re: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: HotRod on June 08, 2004, 02:43:25 PM
The flange an the Underside (under the floor) should be a little bigger, Otherwise incase of RollCage usage the two pieces of flanges (being the same size) would act like a cutter and tear out the floor.
So I've read somewhere ;D
Title: Re: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: explosivo on June 08, 2004, 04:16:19 PM
Makes sense... I think that in addition to the plates, I'll put a bead of weld around it for a little added stability.
Title: Re: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: nc_zuk on June 08, 2004, 11:32:35 PM
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Makes sense... I think that in addition to the plates, I'll put a bead of weld around it for a little added stability.

No need to do that as you will only weaken the already thin sheet metal. Just do as stated above, ensure that your bottom plate is larger than the top plate. This willl keep it from shearing the floor under pressure ;)
Title: Re: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: jagular7 on June 09, 2004, 12:50:49 AM
And if possible bring a mount off the frame to the bottom plate. I've got 6 body mounts and 2 floor mounts on my Bronco's cage. The body mounts are triangulated off the frame, shaped sort of like a stretched body mount.
Even though the cage is out off the frame, it's all tied together.

Just remember, the cage is a one-time use item. It'll save you when needed. Otherwise, it stiffens the entire truck.
Title: Re: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: tracker8wr on June 09, 2004, 04:00:41 AM
typically when building a roll cage you should first be confident in the strength of ur weld. didn't u just get ur welder. well weld the top plate to the tubing and then bolt the bottom and top together. make sure to bevel the steel tubing at all weld points.
Title: Re: Explosivo TUBING
Post by: explosivo on June 09, 2004, 10:45:23 AM
jagular7: I was thinking about making the bottom plate mount to the frame on the way to work this morning, as a matter of fact :)

tracker8wr: I just got a cheapo wirefeed welder... I've been welding with my stick welder for a while, which is what I'll be using for this project.