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Title: Tracker Back Half
Post by: TRC on February 03, 2011, 01:18:00 PM
Time to go to work on the Tracker. Iv'e used this Little car as a daily driver, parts runner and chase car for several years. We did the lift in my shop about three years ago and we installed a cage in a couple of days. Everything on this car was done by my workers and on a time crunch so the quality was never what I wanted it to be. Don't get me wrong the quality was 8.5 on the scale but not the quality I do. Now I have a month gap in between clients so a new trans and t-case gears, cut the back half off and tube the rear with my own 4 link finished off with fox shocks 2" coil carrier and 3" bypass shock. I'm doing this build with left over parts for my now closed retail location. I hope to be done with all the fab and sheet metal work by the beginning of march. I will try to share pics nightly... Stay tuned.(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSC_0005-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: TRC on February 03, 2011, 05:02:40 PM
 Worked on removing the rear axle, fuel tank, rerouting fuel lines and electrical.(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1762.jpg) Then out came the angle grinder with my 6" cut off wheel.(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1769.jpg) The whole theory behind this build is to lighten up the package inprove approach and departure angles, Increase suspension travel, improve articulation  and still have a street able car. When I first built this it was a less expensive answer to a Yamaha Rhino. It turned out to be a better Rock crawler, better in the sand and quicker in the desert and you still could go the the store and get some milk! Then came the RZR S. The RZR S is faster in the desert and sand but the tracker still crawls better. This is my answer to the whole side x side battle! The TRC quad sport... Sand, desert, rock and running to the store to get some milk.
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: bentparts on February 03, 2011, 07:11:23 PM
 ;) Pretty sweet. It's always more fun to drive to the event , wheel it , and drive it home too.  Looking forward to your progress.
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: TRC on February 03, 2011, 08:04:39 PM
The coolest trip with this rig was to drive from San Bernardino Ca. to Pismo on a 30 minute notification. We grabed a duffle bag with some clothes and off we went. We made hotel resiverations from a blackberry going down the road. We stayed three nights four days. Wheeling during the day and dicing with Rhinos and even LS1 sand rails. Spending the nights in a hotel with an awesome hot tub was great. We at breakfast and late dinner in town and wheeled 7-8 hours a day in between. No breakdowns and the tracker worked flawless all weak!  Heres the only pic I could find out in the sand.(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/5570_1166846298280_1441601243_454033_2079738_n.jpg) Here is my wife back at the hotel.(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/5570_1166846378282_1441601243_454035_555719_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: Jluck on February 03, 2011, 08:10:12 PM
very cool. anxious to watch the build.
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: BRD HNTR on February 04, 2011, 07:02:09 AM
Looking forward to the modifications.  I wold like to see what the dimensions of your 4 link end up being.  I just 4 linked my tracker, and have been experimenting with the upper link heights, and haven't noticed much difference.
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: tracker954x4 on February 07, 2011, 01:55:45 PM
Thats gonna be a sweet rig when complete! Thats exactly what I'd love to do to mine if only i had the resources.
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: TRC on February 16, 2011, 04:47:06 PM
Just got back into the shop after a Great week at King of the Hammers. I was there helping with setup and shooting pics for Randy Slawson (Bomber fab). He won the LCQ and took 4th place in the main race. Back to the tracker today. worked on cleaning up the rear axle, removing the drum brakes and brake lines. Went back to the chassis to remove some double wall on the rear fenders and plan my next cuts for the boat sides. I still want fully functional windows but want to bring the side as far up out of the rocks as possible. I removed the old cage and spare carriers to make way for the new cage. Thats it for today!(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1778.jpg)(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1779.jpg)
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: TRC on February 17, 2011, 06:06:39 PM
Finally figured out what to do. With my design and engineering on the run this kit needs to be more like a 3/4 chassis kit, not a back half. Back to cutting. I really want to keep this car light and make the suspension work.(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1780.jpg) More and more material needs to come off to achieve the performance required in my original concept.To build a better all around on / off road car that will compete with the polaris 900 XP and still be streetable. (http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1787.jpg) I've taken around 300 lbs off so far. This does not include the tail gate and original spare. I cut the frame and made a troff that a 1 3/4 D.o.m piece will lay in.(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1789.jpg) Tomorrow I will start the kit and go up with the chassis.(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1791.jpg)
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: ebewley on February 18, 2011, 12:06:55 PM
Wow! You are going to town on that...

Thanks for the updates!

-Eric
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: TRC on February 18, 2011, 12:40:08 PM
I spent most of the morning removing locking lug nuts. I had to do this on the rear also. someone broke into my tracker about a year and a half ago and went through my glove box and stole some stupid stuff. At the start of the build I couldn't find my key that fits all the lugs. Crap had to find a way to remove them without damaging to wheels or lugs. This little kit from Irwin worked awesome. Took the extractor and hammered it in place and used a star wrench, I applied pressure and they started to back out. man I'm glad the make this kit. Its well worth the $20.00 I spent on it at Auto Zone.(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1793.jpg)
I got the frame rails set up to plug in 1 3/4 D.O.M main rails and the rest of the tube will be 1 1/2 x .120 D.O.M main cage and 1 1/2 x .065 lacing. I will build the kit in place and it will un plug for final welding. The mid rails will go through the fire wall and tie into the upper strut tower on each side.(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1794.jpg)
After lunch I will cut the rear fenders and set the wheelbase. Yes the rear will have a Rzr look!
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: TRC on February 18, 2011, 12:43:24 PM
Here is a pic of the tool used for extraction.(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1792.jpg)
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: Bigzook on February 18, 2011, 02:05:06 PM
See if we can get the Zukiworld challenge to grow I think a "pro" class would be perfect for something like this.
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: ebewley on February 18, 2011, 02:46:13 PM
See if we can get the Zukiworld challenge to grow I think a "pro" class would be perfect for something like this.

Be careful of mission creep...

-Eric
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: TRC on February 18, 2011, 05:08:04 PM
Played around with different wheel bases and came up with 98 1/2". Laid out a tape line and started my first cut. I will hammer and dolly a rolled fender lip for the rear.(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1796.jpg)
 Chose my spots for the mid rail to go through the fire wall and hole sawed through. Its tough to hit the mark on the back side but I came close enough that a small bulkhead patch will tie it in well. Looks like tuesday I will lay out the lower 1 3/4 tube main rails and start tacking it all together. Im trying to get the most angle on the boat sides and still have a fully functional doors with windows in them. Not a lot of room to play with but I think I can at least take three inches off the outside edge.(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1797.jpg)
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: tracker954x4 on February 19, 2011, 06:31:27 AM
This is going to be sweet! can't wait to see the finished product. keep up the good work
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: TRC on February 24, 2011, 03:46:58 PM
Spent the day still cutting out sheet metal to lighten the load and make more interior room. Still doing the design and engineering on the run. Trying to get the boat sides up as high as practical for the rock clearance. Made the call to get rid of the windows and track to accommodate the higher boat sides. Lexan with a fastening system will work.(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1808.jpg)
I did a little research on the RZR 900 xp for the specs. Here how stock to stock compares...

                              Tracker                                             RZR 900xp
Track                       64.2                                                 64

WB                          86.6                                                 81.4

HP                           80                                                    88

Torque                      94 fp                                                N/A

Fuel                          11.1 gal                                            7.25

Weight                     2246                                                 1190

Travel                      6 front 8 rear                                      13.5 front 14.5 rear

As you can see cutting the weight down is the most important . Next is to increase travel, approach and departure angles and still have it be somewhat street legal! Good luck!!! I built a suzuki tube buggy that weighed in at 1468LBS and that was the lightest two seat car I could build at the time. This car I'm shooting for 1800 lbs ish. We will see. The new name for this build is the Trophy Tracker. By the time I'm done it will be all tube and new 4130 cromo A arms up front. Or maybe a solid front axle. Always a work in progress! ???

(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1809.jpg)
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: TRC on February 24, 2011, 04:03:12 PM
Here are the lower frame rails with the new tube frame plugged in and tacked in place. Im using a MIG to tack stuff together but the finished product will be TIG !(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1811.jpg)
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: Drone637 on February 24, 2011, 09:37:26 PM
More and more of that floor keeps disappearing.  :)
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: wildgoody on February 24, 2011, 11:06:56 PM
Ya, I got a chance to stop by and talk truck with Tim, real good down to earth
guy and quite knowledgeable about suspension design.

I expect to see some cool stuff flowing from his shop, we talked about and swapped
ideas and stuff, and what he has plans for building.

Thanks Tim, I enjoyed the visit and look forward to seeing your trucklet evolve

Wild
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: BRD HNTR on February 25, 2011, 05:47:32 AM
It will be interesting to see what he does with the suspension. 
I would say all this work to keep up with a modified Golf Cart :laugh:.   I had a couple of them BLOW past me in the last race.  :'(  - only because I had lost a spring.  They are not easy to catch, or stay with.
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: TRC on February 25, 2011, 07:33:06 AM
Darrin it was great chatting with you ! you are a man with a lot of knowledge and have a very creative mind. I will be picking your brain from time to time. Thanks for stopping by !
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: Zukipilot on February 25, 2011, 10:47:07 AM
Awesome build Tim..... I freaked at first when I saw you were cutting up such an awesome looking rig.... but it keeps getting better with each post....

Zig
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: MrBracket on February 25, 2011, 02:38:03 PM
Wow! I like what I see so far!!  Keepin an eye on this build for sure!
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: bentparts on February 26, 2011, 05:18:38 AM
Is it ok to say " BAD ASS!!" when refering to this rig!
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: TRC on February 26, 2011, 08:42:13 AM
I spent the morning squaring the frame rails so I have a good reference point to work off of. (http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1809.jpg)

Then it was off to see how high to make the boat sides for good looks and to follow a clean body line.
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1816.jpg)

Got my dimensions, off to cutting tube, set up, squaring and welding! Finally !!!
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1819.jpg)

Then back to fitting and cutting away the body to make way to the new cage. worked on losing weight on the doors. The doors weigh about 8 lbs.
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1812.jpg)

The new boat side cut allow for a much better pass through for the rocks.
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1822.jpg)

I did a little trimming of the front fenders and got the body roughed out for the look I wanted !
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1824.jpg)

End of day progress !
(http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1820.jpg)
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: Hyper on February 27, 2011, 06:05:23 PM
Got my dimensions, off to cutting tube, set up, squaring and welding! Finally !!!
([url]http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee478/TRca51/DSCN1819.jpg[/url])


I love to see a great welding job like that!  :-*
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: TRC on March 02, 2011, 07:04:57 PM
I haven't fallen off the planet, sure enough, as soon as I start my project, work comes in! I have motorcycle work to complete before I get back to the Trophy tracker! I knew this would happen, any time I start something work on, work pours in. Not complaining, its a blessing, But I was dead set on finishing this before April. At this rate, I might not get back to it until mid April. Anyway just a update!
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: Jluck on March 02, 2011, 07:33:13 PM
keep us posted! this is a great build and I could have withdrawals if you wait too long between posts! ;D
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: tracker954x4 on March 10, 2011, 07:42:24 PM
I haven't fallen off the planet, sure enough, as soon as I start my project, work comes in! I have motorcycle work to complete before I get back to the Trophy tracker! I knew this would happen, any time I start something work on, work pours in. Not complaining, its a blessing, But I was dead set on finishing this before April. At this rate, I might not get back to it until mid April. Anyway just a update!
I had a shop teacher once tell me that if i wanted to always have work to do that i needed to get a project vehicle of my own to work on in my spare time, cause then there will always be other work to do.lol
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: jason hutchison on March 10, 2011, 09:38:59 PM
Tim
glad to see you back into the swing of things.. I am stoked to see the project come to life after talking about it a couple years ago.Great project and thanks for sharing. Your methodical approach will be inspirational to a lot of people. It won't be long before people are cutting into their own rigs to do their own version of the Trophy Tracker..I will be heading out your way monday the 14th around lunch time and would love to swing by. 

-Hutch
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: jason hutchison on March 10, 2011, 09:45:24 PM
See if we can get the Zukiworld challenge to grow I think a "pro" class would be perfect for something like this.

Be careful of mission creep...

-Eric
I tried to get Tim to race the tracker before he cut it up....I think we have a case of the Evil Seed here...
I bet it's just the beginning for Tim and Suzukis
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: BRD HNTR on March 11, 2011, 07:17:20 AM
I haven't fallen off the planet, sure enough, as soon as I start my project, work comes in! I have motorcycle work to complete before I get back to the Trophy tracker! I knew this would happen, any time I start something work on, work pours in. Not complaining, its a blessing, But I was dead set on finishing this before April. At this rate, I might not get back to it until mid April. Anyway just a update!
I had a shop teacher once tell me that if i wanted to always have work to do that i needed to get a project vehicle of my own to work on in my spare time, cause then there will always be other work to do.lol

How true.  When my Tracker is running, or not being worked on, I have lots of time available.  When I start on a modification (cause I don't have to repair it), the Honey Do's and friends need it right now come along.  That could be good when its your living.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: TRC on March 11, 2011, 06:05:10 PM
Yes Hutch, hit me up on monday. 951 259 6231
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: Zukipilot on April 06, 2011, 05:34:59 AM
Any updates or did your shop get busy again?
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: 96sport on August 28, 2011, 08:13:35 PM
UPDATES?
Title: Re: Tracker Back Half
Post by: kreator on September 01, 2011, 09:02:39 AM
Any new pics ?