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Title: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: JKZ Motorsports on February 09, 2011, 08:12:41 AM
My better half has received a very lucrative offer from a company in souther Cali. 

My question is this.....what can I do for my samurai?  I have no problem passing the smog checks here in Washington state, however I am more than a little nervous about the peoples republic of California.

I have an 8 valve 1.6 w/weber, cam, cat. convertor and flowmaster muffler.  Is it possible to get a historical plate and by-pass all the checks?  Or .........

What do you guys do?


Thanks
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: Jluck on February 09, 2011, 08:15:11 AM
My better half has received a very lucrative offer from a company in souther Cali.  

My question is this.....what can I do for my samurai?  I have no problem passing the smog checks here in Washington state, however I am more than a little nervous about the peoples republic of California.

I have an 8 valve 1.6 w/weber, cam, cat. convertor and flowmaster muffler.  Is it possible to get a historical plate and by-pass all the checks?  Or .........

What do you guys do?




Thanks




never ever move to that sh!t hole!!! thats what I recommend! :) that money isn't worth signing off freedom.
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: lv2fsh on February 09, 2011, 08:51:22 AM
It will never be street legal in Ca. You could buy a whole new Sammy for what the Smog/DMV nazis would cost you. As for moving to Ca, as a born and raised, life long resident, I would recommend anywhere but here. I am leaving as soon as I can retire (4 yrs).
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: JKZ Motorsports on February 09, 2011, 08:59:22 AM
We haven't made a decision yet.....


Thanks for the info guys. ;D
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: lv2fsh on February 09, 2011, 09:18:52 AM
Maybe your wife can work at home online. My sister lives in Or. now but has lived in Ca, Ut, Id and Or with the same job.
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: JKZ Motorsports on February 09, 2011, 09:51:12 AM
Unfortunatly this is not an option.  Her position would require us to be there.  Upside is part of her family is down there.
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: oak_raid on February 09, 2011, 09:58:06 AM
The weber wont be smog legal here.  And if your cat is a bolt on type, it wont be legal here either.  They have to be welded on, guess they are worried about guys taking them off after smog inspections.

I seriously doubt you will get any kind of 'bypass' on the smog restrictions.  It really is a PITA.
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: JKZ Motorsports on February 09, 2011, 10:25:41 AM
The cat is welded.

Do they do anything for veh. that are 25+ years old?  Before all this smog stuff happened?
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: Merlin93 on February 09, 2011, 10:35:00 AM
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... It really is a PITA.

You'll need to have ALL the original emissions-related equipment in place and operating, in addition to passing measured emissions.  The cam could be a problem as well, as it will likely affect emissions measurements. Only the Thorley header has CARB exemption.

Petroworks has been successful in getting 1.6L engine transplants to pass a referee, but there is some expense involved. I believe one needs the same or newer year's engine, and then the emissions limits for that later year apply.

I think the cutoff-date for smog is fixed at around 1975.   

Edit: The most compelling reason for keeping my Zuk registered & smog-legal (besides driving to the trails) is that those trails that I like to drive require street-legal registration.      I do a lot of camping and exploring in National Parks, where street-legal is required.
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: lv2fsh on February 09, 2011, 11:35:02 AM
If you decide to make the move, sell your Sammy up there and buy a new one down here. Trust me unless you are so emotionally attached to that particular rig, you will be better off. The only smog exemptions that Ca makes is for 1973 and older cars. They are really strict on out of state vehicles. Even if you bought a brand new car in another state they would make you smog it before registering it ( I know this from recent experience) and it would have to have all of the Ca emission equipment and be inspected.
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: JKZ Motorsports on February 09, 2011, 11:39:07 AM
If you decide to make the move, sell your Sammy up there and buy a new one down here. Trust me unless you are so emotionally attached to that particular rig, you will be better off. The only smog exemptions that Ca makes is for 1973 and older cars. They are really strict on out of state vehicles. Even if you bought a brand new car in another state they would make you smog it before registering it ( I know this from recent experience) and it would have to have all of the Ca emission equipment and be inspected.


This is probably what will happen.  Or part it out and keep what I want and build another down there.  Or just get out of the whole suzuki thing altogether.

Have to wait and see what the duelling companies come up with for a final offer..............
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: Jluck on February 09, 2011, 12:32:47 PM
If you decide to make the move, sell your Sammy up there and buy a new one down here. Trust me unless you are so emotionally attached to that particular rig, you will be better off. The only smog exemptions that Ca makes is for 1973 and older cars. They are really strict on out of state vehicles. Even if you bought a brand new car in another state they would make you smog it before registering it ( I know this from recent experience) and it would have to have all of the Ca emission equipment and be inspected.


This is probably what will happen.  Or part it out and keep what I want and build another down there.  Or just get out of the whole suzuki thing altogether.

Have to wait and see what the duelling companies come up with for a final offer..............


this dont mean you have to be a je#p guy like every (almost) other Californian right!! ???
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: JKZ Motorsports on February 09, 2011, 01:41:04 PM

This is probably what will happen.  Or part it out and keep what I want and build another down there.  Or just get out of the whole suzuki thing altogether.

Have to wait and see what the duelling companies come up with for a final offer..............
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this dont mean you have to be a je#p guy like every (almost) other Californian right!! ???
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All joking aside, I already have a jeep so what would be the big deal in getting one that already passes the peoples republic of greenies standards :laugh:


Just have to wait and see,  the latest offer is really niiiiiiiice 8)
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: poopman on February 09, 2011, 03:57:29 PM
 ???
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: JKZ Motorsports on February 09, 2011, 04:00:54 PM
???


Get back to work :laugh:
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: prerunnerinidaho on February 09, 2011, 04:50:24 PM
Why not keep the Sammy and use it off road only. Non opp the plates and get an off road tag. It's reasons just like this that I left Cali in 89 and haven't looked back. Ive got a carberated 302 ford in a 95 Grand Cherokee thank you state of  Idaho.
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: JKZ Motorsports on February 09, 2011, 05:09:34 PM
Because I like to get in my rig and be able to drive it somewhere and not have it sitting in the garage or on a trailer.

I believe the rock buggies (although they are very cool and show the mechanical ability of some) are the demise of our sport.
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: mrfuelish on February 12, 2011, 10:50:26 PM
check into a propane conversion (500.00 on craigslist) or a
Diesel engine swap .
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: wildgoody on February 13, 2011, 11:05:25 PM
The 1.6 will most likely go unnoticed, but the Weber will not make it.

If you have all the OEM smog crap it will pass visual, but may not pass
emission, and if it is a Federal car, and not a California car, they will charge you
a California impact fee.

If you don't pass emissions, you will be required to pay a certain amount for repairs
trying to get it to pass, the amount varies depending on year of vehicle, until it passes
or still fails, if it fails, you will get a pass for the next 2 years, and come next Smog check
you will again be required to spend the money to get it to pass, again, and every year
until it passes.

You might want to get a few gallons of E-85, available out here where I live, use that
fuel to pass and then switch back to gasoline after your done

Some fuel for thought  ;)

Wild
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: joshembry on February 14, 2011, 08:28:23 PM
What if the military makes you move there? I dont have to change my residencey and can leave it as washington....so would I ever have to deal with smog in Cali if I move there? ....not trying to hijack your thread, just curious as i read thru you problem
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: wildgoody on February 14, 2011, 10:14:31 PM
Smog law in California would refer back to your registered state, so if you
maintain a Washington Drivers License you should have no problems in
Ca. However if you got a Cal. Driver License you would have to register
Cal, and smog the truck

Wild
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: JKZ Motorsports on February 16, 2011, 07:37:00 PM
Thanks for all the info and ideas.

Looks like the we will only be visiting the peoples republic to see family and not moving there ;D
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: poopman on February 17, 2011, 07:34:38 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Question for the California samurai owners
Post by: JKZ Motorsports on February 17, 2011, 07:26:11 PM
;D


Thought you would like that answer.  Talk to you later. 8)