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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Technical Discussion - Beginner / Repair => Topic started by: 94trackkick on February 23, 2011, 05:51:51 PM
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When i run the jumper wire from bd on my 94 tracker with the key in the on position the light does not flash to give me any codes. When i reset the ecm the check engine light comes right back on. Any ideas?
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I would stop by an auto parts store and borrow an ODBC I scanner. There should be a diagnostic port under the hood you can connect to.
Alternatively, did you just roll over 100k or 50k in miles? It could just be the service light, in which case you need flip the service switch.
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When i run the jumper wire from bd on my 94 tracker with the key in the on position the light does not flash to give me any codes. When i reset the ecm the check engine light comes right back on. Any ideas?
If you have the 4 pin plug, then you jumper B and C.
If you have the 6 pin plug, then you jumper B and D.
When you jumper the pins, then turn the key to run, does the CEL do anything....light up? If it just lights up and doesn't flash, then you need to flip the switch under the dash to the opposite position. The switch is screwed to the backside of the dash (right near the bottom of it) and the switch is located between the drivers side dash speaker and the steering column. You can feel for it, if you know what you are feeling for. Otherwise, either get a mirror and flashlight and start looking, or lay on your back in the floorboard and look for it.
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Thank you and its the 4 pin i just picked up the truck and the check engine light was on when i bought it so my best guess is that its the switch under the dash then cause its at 128k. the guy i bought it from wasnt very mechanicly inclined so i have a feeling he just didnt take care of the light when it rolled over
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I would stop by an auto parts store and borrow an ODBC I scanner. There should be a diagnostic port under the hood you can connect to.
I have yet to find a shop (other than a Suzuki or GM dealership with a Tech 1 or 2 that want to charge me $100) with a scanner that could talk to an OBD1 Suzuki - please tell me you know something different.
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Most all auto parts stores around here have them... just ask the counter guys if they have one you can use to 'read your codes'. You can reset each one after you read it, but they can not.
Zig
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Most all auto parts stores around here have them... just ask the counter guys if they have one you can use to 'read your codes'. You can reset each one after you read it, but they can not.
Zig
Really? An OBD1 reader? Most all have the OBD2 reader, but I didn't think many (if any) had the OBD1 reader...since you can just use a paperclip, or fuse, to read codes off an OBD1 vehicle. Then you usually just have to unhook the battery to reset the codes.
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i know in my area orielly auto parts have obd 1 scanners
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i know in my area orielly auto parts have obd 1 scanners
But can it read an OBD1 SUZUKI? My guess is NO!
For the sake of clarity - OBDII systems are required under federal law to respond to a specific sequence of polls, there is no such mandate for OBD1 systems, and they are often proprietary - a reader that can read an OBD1 Toyota, will not read an OBD1 Ford, will not read an OBD1 Chrysler, will not read - you get the idea - and NONE of them read Suzuki.
Go ahead - prove me wrong - unplug the IAT sensor (should be in the air filter housing) or the ECT sensor (should be in the thermostat housing) of your 94 trackkick so that it sets a code and take it down to O' Rielly and see if they can tell you what's wrong. I'll be very surprised if they do - as I mentioned earlier I have yet to see any shop other than a dealer that has the necessary equipment.
If they can't identify the problem or clear the code - simply reconnect the sensor and the code will clear.
Edited to correct formatting tag.
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i would but the check engine light is off all i had to do is flip the switch from when it rolled over to 100k previse owner never did. i know on my 92 the shop at my school had an obd 1 that could read my sidekick
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But can it read an OBD1 SUZUKI[/i]? My guess is NO!
Suzuki Sidekick ODBC I is usually the same as GM. A buddy worked at a Chevy dealership and used the GM ODBC I reader when setting up his 16v conversion.
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i would but the check engine light is off all i had to do is flip the switch from when it rolled over to 100k previse owner never did. i know on my 92 the shop at my school had an obd 1 that could read my sidekick
That's the reason I suggested you set a code.
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But can it read an OBD1 SUZUKI? My guess is NO!
Suzuki Sidekick ODBC I is usually the same as GM. A buddy worked at a Chevy dealership and used the GM ODBC I reader when setting up his 16v conversion.
Read my original post - it does point out that the only places you're likely to find a reader that can read OBD1 Suzuki is Suzuki & GM dealerships - and, unless you have a buddy who works there, they usually charge a hefty fee to scan those codes. I know of only two readers that can do the job - a Vectronix Tech 1 or it's replacement, the Tech 2, and even with those, you need the correct EPROM cartridge for the vehicle you want to scan - around a $3500 investement, which is why most shops don't have them, and those that do, charge you to use them.
Now if any one of you wants to show me or even sell me a reasonably priced (ie. consumer) reader than I can plug into my '98 OBD1 2.0 Grand Vitara and get the codes, set the ignition timing and freeze frame etc., I'm ready & waiting, credit card in hand.
FWIW - I already have an ELM-327 adapter & software which does not talk to it, as well as an ALDL interface which does, and I can see quite a few of the parameters - rpms, speed, injector pulsewidth, coolant temp, air temp - but no codes (not yet anyway) and no ignition timing.
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Most all auto parts stores around here have them... just ask the counter guys if they have one you can use to 'read your codes'. You can reset each one after you read it, but they can not.
Zig
Really? An OBD1 reader? Most all have the OBD2 reader, but I didn't think many (if any) had the OBD1 reader...since you can just use a paperclip, or fuse, to read codes off an OBD1 vehicle. Then you usually just have to unhook the battery to reset the codes.
Yea.. surprised me too.... When I had my 89, nobody but dealers had them.... But when I took my new rig to AutoZone to check out the codes, the counter guy looked at it and asked if I needed an OBD I or OBD II reader. I dint know if they all have them but both of the ones I have stopped at had them.
Zig
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FWIW - I already have an ELM-327 adapter & software which does not talk to it, as well as an ALDL interface which does, and I can see quite a few of the parameters - rpms, speed, injector pulsewidth, coolant temp, air temp - but no codes (not yet anyway) and no ignition timing.
FORDEM what program are you using with your ELM-327? I am looking for a good program, and wouldn't mind paying for one, but the ones I had tested have been lacking on what I want. Mostly they seemed to access only major information.
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I use an early version of ScanTool.net (later versions check the ELM-327 to see if it's a clone, which mine is) - I've done very little with it, because none of my vehicles is OBDII (they're actually quite rare down here), I know it works because I've hooked it up to a friend's US market 2001 Grand Vitara.