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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: 1bigtracker on May 25, 2004, 11:42:16 AM
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they are building a buget Sammy in peteren's 4 wheel and off-road. looks like it came out nice. i rear it well i was in a store. i'll buy it later.
stu
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I was gonna pick up this month's issue, but I couldn't find it in the magazine rack at the store I was at >:( .
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I read that article. It's part of the 4x4x$1500 Cheap Truck Challenge. The staff came up with the idea of everyone building up a budget wheeler with a total budget of only $1500, including the cost of the truck. The sami was the first one. It had potential, but too bad the head gasket went on it's first trip to the woods... Fixing it blows the budget no matter how they try to do it.
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you ruined the end of the story! i was going to make them read it for that. lol
stu
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DOH! sorry.... :( :-[ :-[
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Which month issue. June or July?
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he said it had over heated a couple of times and the head on those will easily warp a high temps. he couldn't stop it from overheating. isn't as general practice for sammis that have been sitting for longer than 6 months to change the fan clutch because they r very pron to not ingaging fully.
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Which month issue. June or July?
It's the July 2004 issue and BTW, at the end of the article, he said he was spending more money on it next month to do something to the engine. In fact, he was looking for suggestions (via email) as to what to do to the 1.3 with the blown head gasket. Haven't some of you put a 1.6 or bigger in place of your 1.3?
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yup ;D
stu
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Thanks for reading the story guys.
I'm still open to suggestions, though I'm leaning towards fixing the head gasket. I found them at Napa for $180. anyond done the job before that has any input?
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I haven't done a head gasket yet myself, but that would seem to be the most cost-effective fix.
Out of any of the other coming 4x4x$1500 trucks, do any happen to be Track/kicks? Just wondering. Good luck and hope to see more of your sami in the magazine!
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nope all the other rigs will be domestics, and most are fullsize rigs,
lets hope that I can get the 1.3 running and can then go show them suka's up. I'm sure I'll be going almost where ever they go on the trail, but if we do much road tripping I'll need an early start.
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Just make sure to have you head check for crackes and worpage.
I've heard of several that were fine with just a new head gasket.
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Thanks for reading the story guys.
I'm still open to suggestions, though I'm leaning towards fixing the head gasket.  I found them at Napa for $180.  anyond done the job before that has any input?
Welcome Fred,
I haven't had a chance to read the article yet, mail is slow, but if you only need a head gasket there are a couple choices from the vendors here that would be much cheaper. For example, Hawk has the head gasket for $65 and a complete gasket kit for $79.ninetyfive! :)
As far as engines go, it sounds like you're going to compete in a contest where the vehicles have to cost $1500 or less? I don't know how much you have in your rig already but I've purchased good running complete (carb to exhaust manifold) 1300 engines a couple of times for $300 and less... Just an idea.
Hope this helps, -Eric
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fred isn't the sammi EFI if so does the 1.3 EFI work on the 1.6 EFI that would be a badass sammi. u can find one at a junkyard for less than the headgasket kit. if u can't find one there i'm sure there are some guys here with plenty of spare parts for a good price. also contact hawk there have really great prices and are in washington state.
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If he goes to a 1.6L then he'll have to get an adapter plate.
That would really blow the buget.
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fred isn't the sammi EFI if so does the 1.3 EFI work on the 1.6 EFI that would be a badass sammi. u can find one at a junkyard for less than the headgasket kit. if u can't find one there i'm sure there are some guys here with plenty of spare parts for a good price. also contact hawk there have really great prices and are in washington state.
True, the full 1.3 induction and exhaust will bolt on to a 1.6 8-valve BUT I haven't seen any complete 1.6 engines going for less $500 + and then you've got to buy somesort of Adapter plate kit... It'd add up fast, like you said... :)
1.6 with stock Samurai intake junk and an early Calmini (1.3 or 1.6) header
(http://www.zukiworld.com/month_020103/images/gijane/dsc00414.jpg)
(http://www.zukiworld.com/month_020103/images/gijane/dsc00415.jpg)
FYI: Hawk is in Oregon.... ;)
-Eric
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it's not really a contest, but rather bench racing turned reality to challenge the staff to buy and build something for under $1500, but after I got mine done the head gasket blew. so I've busted the budget. I think my current plan is to just fix the gasket and then get it on the trail. I'd rather go wheeling than spend a few weeks waiting for parts. then down the road I'll do some sort of swap.
here is what I'm considering
1.6
1.8
vw diesel
4.3 v-6
I'm leaning towards the 1.8 since it's zuki, but still different. any input on that?
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VW TURBO DIESEL!!! thats what going into sammy soon. ;D can't wait. the easyest swap would be a 1.6 though. i guess its what ever you want.
stu
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I think the 1.8 would be too spendy and not that much gain in power for the money! the 1.6 16 valve is a nice swap if you can find a wrecked 4 door tracker or kick for the parts, I think it has the most bang for the buck and trail tough has a special on the install kit for them on now, there are vids on pirate of a samurai beating down a 690 h.p. jeep in the sand drags and winning a large trophey, also could you sell some parts off of your rig to stay in the budget to fix the head?
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it's not really a contest, but rather bench racing turned reality to challenge the staff to buy and build something for under $1500, but after I got mine done the head gasket blew. so I've busted the budget.  I think my current plan is to just fix the gasket and then get it on the trail. I'd rather go wheeling than spend a few weeks waiting for parts.  then down the road I'll do some sort of swap. ÂÂ
here is what I'm considering
1.6
1.8
vw diesel
4.3 v-6
I'm leaning towards the 1.8 since it's zuki, but still different.  any input on that?
Please, Please, Please keep it Suzuki! The 1.6 16-valve and the 1.8/2.0 Swaps will get you the power you want, at least I think so anyways. :) All three of these swaps would use the same adapter plate to the transmission, however, the 1.8 and the 2.0 will need custom flywheel work and other modifications to make them work. The 1.6 16-valve swap is becoming quite popular so that means more vendors are supporting/offering it and there is more help amongst the enthusiasts group that has done it.
Having said that the 'being different' part is cool too. Another possible option is the new 2004 Aerio 2.3 liter 4-banger it is a bored and stroked 2.0 (same family as the 1.8 ) that would fit in there as well. That would be cool / cutting edge/ one of a kind...
Good luck, Eric
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thanks guys
keep posted for what we end up doing, but don't expect it before the november issue, too much on the table right now
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Eric, did you buy an adapter for the 1.6 or did you run the sidekick trans? How did it go (the swap)? I am thinking of the same deal. 1.6 w/1.3 head. Thanks, Jeff 8)
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Eric, did you buy an adapter for the 1.6 or did you run the sidekick trans?  How did it go (the swap)?  I am thinking of the same deal. 1.6 w/1.3 head.  Thanks, Jeff 8)
I've run both ways that you have suggested. The 1.6 w/2WD Sidekick transmission, short jack shaft and Samurai t-case. The tranny and t-case retain the same mounting. The 2WD tranny is crappy off-road as it has a real bad time of leaking out of the shift tower when on inclines, running out of oil, and blowing up. I wouldn't recommend it and I think the reason you don't see anyone doing that any more is because of this problem. On that green one, GI JANE project, I used the Calmini adapter kit and a Samurai transmission. The Samurai flywheel, clutch and pressure plate is used in this swap, it works well.
Whew... short answer long, eh! :)
-Eric
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Fred,
Welcome to the forum. I missed you at the Calrocs Boulevard Brawl. I heard that you where in town for the event but didn't see you around. Haven't seen you since I met you at Moon Rocks in reno. Anyhow in regards to your delema I may have an answer for your problem. I will email you directly to discuss..
Later
Hutch
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hey no fare, i wana hear! ;D
stu