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ZUKIWORLD Events and Activities Forum => ZUKIWORLD 'ZUKFARI => Topic started by: Jonny Rash on April 28, 2011, 07:07:14 AM
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Howdy,
I know that it has been discussed before on the Zuwharrie board, but I thought I would bring it up here.
How about having the Zukfari in May every year when the weather is a lot better. That is, there is nothing holding us to the EJS schedule, so why do we follow it?
They only negative is the Jeep trade show will not be there, but to me, that is a very minor negative. It made more sense to me when Zuki vendors showed up at the trade show, but with only one in attendance (Calmini with only a display), it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to time our run with the EJS. No parts to purchase and no spares for sale either.
I also realize that the vendors who donate to the raffle might want the Suzukis to run the same week as the Jeeps; in order to show that the public that there is an alternative to the Jeeps. However, if we had a strong showing (20+) of Suzukis in May, I think that the vendors would be happy with that.
I realize that many of us get Good Friday off work (a paid Holiday), but then again, I had to take 4 additional vacation days to drive there from Oklahoma. So taking a fifth vacation day doesn't really factor in. What does factor in is cold, rainy and snowy
weather when the EJS is held in March or early April which is the case for the next two years.
I would love to go again next year and 2013, but the timing of the event will make me take a pass until 2014. Been there, done that-EJS 2005 when it started to snow.
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I have to say, it is a bit exciting being in Moab during EJS with all that is going on, but that seems to be one of the few up sides. The down sides include crowded trails, crowded camp grounds, motels, and restaurants, bad weather (however this year being in late April was quite nice), being far from family on Easter, etc., etc. I for one would probably try to make it regardless of when the Zukfari is scheduled but I also think that in May would be really awesome.
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Don't get me wrong, I like seeing all the cool Jeep stuff as well. 8)
What I don't like is the crappy weather. It's too much of a gamble for me to drive 1,000+ miles one way, only to have a major cold front come in and snow on the Zukfari. :(
The people 250 miles away will go to the EJS no matter what, but for us 1,000 miles away it's definitely a deterant when the Zukfari is in March or early April. The weather is too much of a variable. If it was the first or second week of May, I would probably be there much more often.
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Hey! Don't hate on us that live in UT! j/k I know how you feel, when I lived in CA it was the same for me. This could be a controversial topic but I wouldn't mind seeing it put to a vote.
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No, there is plenty of wheeling in OK. As long as the Zukfari is tied together with the EJS, I will probably only be going once every five years or so-when I can get off work and the EJS is mid April or later; 2000, 2005, & 2011 thus far.
I would go there a lot more often if the run was in May.
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Brrr, it was 35 degrees in Moab last night. 34 is forecasted for tonight.
I propose that the new Zukfari event would be centered around Memorial Day weekend. Although, from the lack of replies, there doesn't appear to much interest in changing the Zukfari dates.
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Just got home from Moab, Dinosaur Monument, Yellowstone. All of it had SNOW, and I still had a blast. As a first timer, EJS was not as big a deal as I thought it would be. I will try to make it again next year for Zukfari, but have another commitment for May 13th (it won't take as long to get home next year). Another thought for next year, maybe more of the campers could gather in the same campground, that would give us a little more face time, and support for repairs, runs, meals, etc.
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Wow, that was quite the long way home :D Hope you had a fantastic
trip. Good to meet you and look forward to seeing you again next year
Wild
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Hopefully I will be able to make it down that way as well. We'll see what the next year brings. :)
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We have talked about doing this in past. The weather and prices in Moab can be a deterrent for some. I think we are open to the idea. A lot of it would hinge on if we could get a sizeable group on board to attend if it wasn't during EJS.
-Eric
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I think if we had it centered around Memorial Day weekend, we would have a very good turn out from people outside the 200-mile radius. The local people would still go to EJS, but they would have time to recuperate and attend the Zukfari at the end of May. ;D
Again, the main deterrent for me not attending the next two years is how Easter falls on the calendar. Nothing like driving 1000+ miles to encounter snow & ice at Moab. :'(
Just saw the write up on Zukfari too. 8)
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I'd be all for a may trip. I have never been to ejs just because of the jeep-egos (jego's?) I like the died-in-wool Suzuki mentality so the segriation sounds like a win-win too. IMO
Oh yea.... Better weather and fewer people too. ;)
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Due to the absence of nearly all other makes of vehicles (other than Jeep) this year at the EJS, I think the Toyota, Hummer, Land Rover, Ford etc groups have all split off from the EJS event as well. I would say that 95% of the vehicles there this year were Jeeps, 4% were Suzukis, and 1% were other makes.
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Due to the absence of nearly all other makes of vehicles (other than Jeep) this year at the EJS, I think the Toyota, Hummer, Land Rover, Ford etc groups have all split off from the EJS event as well. I would say that 95% of the vehicles there this year were Jeeps, 4% were Suzukis, and 1% were other makes.
It did seem that way this year. I would go to Moab every week of the year if I could!
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I would also support a May Zukfari. I get tired of dealing with closed trails when I have traveled 1100 miles to explore them. The crowds at Potato Salad Hill are the only thing I would miss. ;)
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Between weather (both there and on the 1000 mile drive) and the EJS crowds, I'd have a much higher probability of going in May. Actually Moab is normally a side trip for us when we go to the San Juans in CO, so late August / early Sept is when I've gone in the past.
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Just got home from Moab, Dinosaur Monument, Yellowstone. All of it had SNOW, and I still had a blast. As a first timer, EJS was not as big a deal as I thought it would be. I will try to make it again next year for Zukfari, but have another commitment for May 13th (it won't take as long to get home next year). Another thought for next year, maybe more of the campers could gather in the same campground, that would give us a little more face time, and support for repairs, runs, meals, etc.
I really like this idea! All those who camp should get organized ahead of time and reserve spots in the same campground.
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I would also support a May Zukfari. I get tired of dealing with closed trails when I have traveled 1100 miles to explore them. The crowds at Potato Salad Hill are the only thing I would miss. ;)
I second that. Watching people bust their junk and roll on potato salad hill is fun, but I could do with out it to have better weather, less crowds and basically having all trails at our disposal-no working our schedule around all the jeepers.
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The high temps this Memorial Day weekend are all in the mid-80s at Moab. A good 15 degrees warmer than it was back during EJS.
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I would support a non- EJS alternative. Where there is a designated campground and it could be totally our own baby.
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I agree! 8)
I've been watching the Moab temps all this summer and days above 100 degrees have been few and far between. We've been much hotter in Oklahoma this summer. So, if we pushed it out even into summer, it might not be too bad.
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This year was an odd year for weather. Trust me, when I lived in Moab it was hot as hell during the summer with most days above 100.
It's been years since i have been to Moab for the EJS. Now that I have a Suzuki, I will either go during that time or when a bunch of people are gathering. I love the comrodery.
It's 832 miles from my front door to my moms house in Moab. It's normally a 1 day trip with lots of time to spare.
Rob
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Yeah, but it's a dry heat and on Memorial Day weekend, Moab isn't that hot. 8) It looks like some other Suzuki vendors had a run that weekend too. I say, let's all get together for one big bash.
This past summer Oklahoma was hotter than Moab by a longshot. We had several days of temps above 110 and many days above 100 degrees. By contrast Moab had only a few days above 100-I checked them quite often on my Iphone. The weather there now is even quite nice-upper80s to lower 90s for highs.
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Honestly for those of us west coasters.. there is quite a vendor turn out at the KOH race in Feb.. To turn around and travel to moab 2 months later based on the vendor section is really not a draw.. I usually don't attend for more than a couple hrs.. there is customer appreciation runs based on some of the bigger vendors but those are usually invite only so again not a real draw. There is usually a rockcrawl comp on the weekend but I am usually traveling home and do not attend. Later in the year would also open up camping as an option and for those of us that are cold blooded could be coaxed back outside with a warmer date.
I am in favor of an alternate date for the Moab trip.. But again the success of this would be a uniting of the many enthusiast/boards/vendors etc to do a Zuk event on a select weekend or maybe teaming up with our metric brethren the Toyota's. 30 to 50 zuk rigs minimum...
Memorial day could be a fun time it is a holiday weekend and it will be crowded..
2011 memorial day moab happenings...
http://www.desertrocks.org/ (http://www.desertrocks.org/) - actually held at area BFE... AKA hippie jam..
ZOR - Lowrange event
grandslam - jeep grand cherokee event was either 2010 or 2011
another topic... the police...I can't figure out if they are more lenient or more strict during EJS... there something to be said about safety in numbers but also are the police more on point... hard to tell..
One final parting thought, if we change the date and go wheeling a different week... It will still be an awesome time wheeling, and there will be other groups in moab doing the same thing..
Hutch
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http://aprilaction.moabadventurechannel.com/ (http://aprilaction.moabadventurechannel.com/)
car show weekend of 4/27/12... looks to be alot of fun since we are all wrench heads to begin with...
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Any given weekend there is something going on in Moab.
Just don't make the trip during hunting season, the locals are less forging during that time. In fact, my Grandfather has a bumper sticker that reads, "Since they call it tourist season, does that mean we can shoot them?"
As far as the local authorities, they are just like any other jurisdiction. The law enforcement changes just like the weather, one day its brutal and the next its wonderful. I'm not aware if there are any major law enfocement initiatives during EJS.
Next year during Memorial day weekend will be out for me, one of my kids is graduating HS.
Rob
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Im new to this forum and new to owning a Suzuki, i live in Florida and would love to drive up there, i have never been to any kind of organized 4x4 run, i used to ride a bobber and we would do the bike weeks, but never 4x4 runs.
I would love to travel, we camp every year around thanksgiving up near Gainesville and alot times it gets in the 20's at night. And Florida is very dense so you can imagine how it feels, but we use heaters so its all good.
I would be in for something like that, i actually prefer small crowds as opposed to big events and crowds, and as for the vendors......i could care less. Im more of a rider than a looker.
Anyways enough about me.
Hope this works out, the only thing that would hold me back is getting my zuk ready.
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Wow, i should have looked at a map before saying i would go, lol, i typed a business address in Moab on main st. into my GPS, wow 2,270 miles, i will have to pass.
Do ya'll do anything closer to east coast or down in the south, Tennessee or Carolinas, Alabama?
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There are lots of runs on the east coast. Just need to search out the local clubs.
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The big benefit of having Suzuki vendors out there is that they bring spare parts for stuff that breaks! Only Calmini showed up this year and they weren't even selling any parts. ???
So if Zuk Offroad and Low Range are already doing a Memorial Day run, I say see lets roll both Suzuki events into one event. The more Suzukis, the merrier.
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The big benefit of having Suzuki vendors out there is that they bring spare parts for stuff that breaks! Only Calmini showed up this year and they weren't even selling any parts. ???
So if Zuk Offroad and Low Range are already doing a Memorial Day run, I say see lets roll both Suzuki events into one event. The more Suzukis, the merrier.
Yeah, that makes sense.
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We need to set a date soon.
Drone and I have been trying to get a group from western Wa. to make it down this next year, and some of them have inflexible vacation schedules.