ITS MOSTLY A PERSONAL PREFERENCE I WOULD SAY. BUT YOU WILL PROBABLY SINK A LOT MORE MONEY GOING THAT ROUTE THAN YOU WOULD PUTTING IN A STEEL SET UP FROM THE 99GV .......MATTY  8)
i made a sas from a dana 35 ,off a heep, that i got from a friend. it cost me $70 in steel tubing & 1/2 plate steel and alot of time. i made a four link close to what calmini made, meaning i used the idea of the cross member. i haven't put in yet because i want to get a sammi case instead of trying to find a slip yoke eliminator. oh and those cheap King Shocks. HEY MONEY SUCKS when u don't have it.
King shocks    = $1000 set
sammi case 4:1 = $500
drive shaft front= $150
drive shaft rear = $60
steel          = $70
misc. parts     = $150
       TOTAL  = $1930
ther is something else but i can't remeber what. Oh yea STEERING.
well lets look at it this way,  i want to run 36/12.50s on the street.  to a unmodded calmini lift is 900+ after shiping and whatnot.  a steel front end  250 i think.  a locker 200.  and i'll need lower gears for the tires so that 600 more dollors.  sooo...
stock Calmini lift   $900+
steel front end    $250
locker           $200
gears           $600
total           about 2000 bucks ÂÂ
stu
I have to agree with Mike here, as when I was looking at SAS'ing my kick, the price of doing that would've been far greater than doing the steel GV housing that I plan on doing.
Just out of curiosity, does anyone know the cost of Heather and Nate's rig? Could give a nice comparison of the cost of SAS and GV front. :-/
Please note that a SAS suspension is VERY different from an IFS setup with regards to ride and capability.  Both with Pros and Cons.
~Nate
So, Nate, I'd say you are a PRO at this by now - can they convict you of KickSASing? If they did, then you would be a CON...
::)
NONE have anything but highspeed cornering over ours.
Nice..... ;D
P.S. We really like our SAS kick. And a final comment, there is something to be said about the fact that there are plenty of Calmini 3 inch +3 inch lifted trucks around, but NONE have anything but highspeed cornering over ours.
And where I live, high speed cornering is really important! ;)
And where I live So is jumping! ;D
And where I live, high speed cornering is really important! ;)
36s on the street huh. I can barely pull my Radial 35s with 5.83 gears. Dont Scout gears only go to 5.12? If so mabey Toyota axles are more up your alley?  :-/ They can run gears as low as 5.71. Thats really not low enough either. Ideally you would want 6.50. However mabey you could go with an OTT setup like heather did and run 5.12s in the scout axles.
Mike
and if i would have had a 4 door i would have put 2 cases in but i'm not long enought. i am thinking about taking out my tranny and t case and putting a 2WD tracker tranny in with a sammy case behide it.
stu
Hey Nate,
Would your set up handle the force of 36's without snapping axle shafts? :-/ I know a locked, geared, stock Kick shaft would never hold up to those Kind of forces. They can barely (and sometimes dont) handle 33's >:( That was thr reasoning for me staying with 33's when I bought new tires ( I have plenty of clearance for 35's)
....
Zig
I was just thinking when I did my old coil Sammi, I used a rear sidekick diff and housing, and cut the outer ends off and used the outside housing sections from a sammi front to build my front housing, I can not remeber how long the long side of the axle is on the Sammi, but if you ran two longs you could build a housing and use exsisting Sammi axles if it was not too long and have a centered housing, The sidegears were interchangable between the front and the rear so the spline count matched the axles.
Mac
I would go for it. I know that I'll get crap for saying this, but in my mind the only rig that should keep its IFS is a Hummer. I know there are alot of very capable Track/Kick, Vitaras, GVs, and XL7s, but all things bieng equal (tire size, gearing, ect.), a SAS Kick will out-wheel one with IFS. The IFS is too much of a on-road compromise, in my mind. I really like the newer 4 door Vitaras but I wouldn't buy one unless I had a SAS ready to go in it. Plus the extra width of a Dana 44 will give you more perceived axle articulation. Like I said I will get crap for saying this, but it's my opinion on IFS- I'd do the same thing to a Chevy as well.
and if i would have had a 4 door i would have put 2 cases in but i'm not long enought. i am thinking about taking out my tranny and t case and putting a 2WD tracker tranny in with a sammy case behide it.
stu
F.Y.I
The OTT Kicker 3 setup (dual t-cases) is as long as the stock Sammy engine, transfercase setup.
~Nate
actually, mine is about 1/2" shorter
On the drivetrain, you CAN fit 2 cases on a 2 door , you just have to relocate the tank up, and move the axle back 6"
;D
I don't think ANYONE was saying you have to go SAS for a rocking trackick, But someone (Mike..) is a little sensitive about it. ;D
I am a little sensitive about it and I apoligize. Im a really calm person but Im just getting a little tired of people just asuming that if trackicks were SAS they would be better. I cant tell you how many times someone has asked me "Have you thought about putting a straight axle under the front?" Everybody says it! WHY! Could I get up more stuff or break less? I highly doubt it.
Mike
Hey bud. Just a thought i had and all of the broken front ends that i have heard about all have had the callmini 3" lift in them. the angle is to sharp on the pinion angle.
I have the front diff welded up for a year now and not broken anything up front to date. And keep the tires that yous run to 10.5 and no larger. Bigger isn't alway better.
Mike I would Love to drive your IFS trackick as you have built it very nice, and I would like to compare it to what I have done. (Kind of apples and ornges but at one time they where the same. ;D
You doing the melt next year? I would like to go to moab next year too if I get the finances right. then we can swap trucks for awhile.
To be perfectly honest, I'm not sure. ÂÂ
When we went to Moab we brought 5 extra axles with the idea that the extra gears would snap axles like a toothpick.  We've got an overall crawl ratio of 179:1 with our 33s and much to our suprise we gently Moab'ed without breakage just fine. ÂÂ
We've since then hit it MUCH harder here, (highspeed, highpower, bouncing, etc) closer to home and haven't snapped anything yet.
I've got a buddy who's got 35s on his stock Kick rear shafts (locked) and has been wheeling hard for a year without problems.  (He drives a YJ sprung Samura with a 1.6l, and nearly the same setup as us.)
I think the important thing to keep in mind is that these setups are on leaf springs, which allow the axle/housing to 'wrap'.  Essentially it provides some give instead of the hard and inflexiable setup a link and coil suspension would provide to the axles.
~Nate
Anybody else with experience with both types of setup want to step in here?
They aren't YJ springs, dammit! ::)
They are SJ springs, full size Jeep Grand Wagoneers, they are much better than the YJs! ;D
Yah, but the body isn't on frame anymore and it's all torn apart, so it prolly doesn't matter much right now.
*poke*
;D