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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Xenu3000 on June 12, 2011, 06:16:03 PM
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I just noticed that the front spring perches on my samurai are different heights. The driver's side sits an inch taller than the passenger's. This was installed by the previous owner and I think he said it was the RRO bolt on kit. Can anyone confirm if this looks right or would otherwise make sense to have it this way?
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Maybe they figure the drivers side is heavier because you sit on that side. :D
Are the top of the spring pads the same height when measured from the ground?
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From the 2 photos;
Are those new top "Perches" welded in at all?
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Maybe they figure the drivers side is heavier because you sit on that side. :D
Are the top of the spring pads the same height when measured from the ground?
If it is the weight thing, they certainly had me in mind when designing the kit!. They are different heights when measured from the ground. I'll measure the body and see if that is level. I see that RRO makes two different lift heights for for this lift. Im wondering if they sent the guy 3 of the shorter height and one of the taller.
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From the 2 photos;
Are those new top "Perches" welded in at all?
No, they can be unbolted and removed. So, if this height difference is not correct, maybe RRO will sell me one stand alone of the correct height with out having to buy the whole lift again. Or if not, maybe I can grind this one down to match the others.
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No, that is the standard size perch kit.
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No, that is the standard size perch kit.
So Jonny, You've seen this before then with the different height on the right and left?
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Yep, I have a Samurai with those SPOA perches. They look exactly the same as yours. I bet that they sit about the same height when they are mounted on the axle as the passenger side of the axle tube is thicker than the driver's side.
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Yep, I have a Samurai with those SPOA perches. They look exactly the same as yours. I bet that they sit about the same height when they are mounted on the axle as the passenger side of the axle tube is thicker than the driver's side.
Thanks, I'll have to take a closer look after work. But its good to know it wasn't just a mistake.
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I would also get some "U" shaped ubolts, that wrap around the axle tube, so the threaded ends point up, instead of down. That way, the ends won't catch and get hung up on stuff, plus it will protect the threads.
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Yes, but he has the bolt on kit. For him to use the std u-bolts, he would need to weld the brackets to the axle tube.
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For him to use the std u-bolts, he would need to weld the brackets to the axle tube.
Which should be done anyway...IMO.
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Yes, but he has the bolt on kit. For him to use the std u-bolts, he would need to weld the brackets to the axle tube.
I could probably make a plate that sits on top of the whole thing that would allow the U bolts to be flipped. I dont know how safe that would be - adding to an already complex setup. To be honest Im not sold on SPOA yet. My old Zuk's SPUA setup rode smoother and steering was tighter. If I do decide to stick with SPOA, I'll eventually get the proper weld-on perches.
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Yes, but he has the bolt on kit. For him to use the std u-bolts, he would need to weld the brackets to the axle tube.
I could probably make a plate that sits on top of the whole thing that would allow the U bolts to be flipped. I dont know how safe that would be - adding to an already complex setup. To be honest Im not sold on SPOA yet. My old Zuk's SPUA setup rode smoother and steering was tighter. If I do decide to stick with SPOA, I'll eventually get the proper weld-on perches.
I prefer SPUA myself. I run SPUA on my off road samurai with 33s.
Isn't there already a plate on the bottom side of the axle? If so, if you get the "U" shaped ubolts that wrap around the axle tube, you can just move that plate to the topside.
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I prefer SPUA myself. I run SPUA on my off road samurai with 33s.
Isn't there already a plate on the bottom side of the axle? If so, if you get the "U" shaped ubolts that wrap around the axle tube, you can just move that plate to the topside.
I see what you are saying. I wonder why RRO didn't design it that way? All I can think to counter is that Glen thought that this way better utilized the strength of the factory perches underneath for a more stable mount possibly?
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I prefer SPUA myself. I run SPUA on my off road samurai with 33s.
Isn't there already a plate on the bottom side of the axle? If so, if you get the "U" shaped ubolts that wrap around the axle tube, you can just move that plate to the topside.
I see what you are saying. I wonder why RRO didn't design it that way? All I can think to counter is that Glen thought that this way better utilized the strength of the factory perches underneath for a more stable mount possibly?
With it being a "bolt on" kit, that was the best way to do it, strength/stability wise. Because with the top perches not being welded to the axle tube, they don't provide much stability/strength...just where they rest on the lower perches that are actually welded to the tube (I think I can see where they aren't even resting on the axle tube :o). But if you would weld the top perches to the axle tube, then the flipped "U" bolts are the best way to go, IMO.
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I see what you are saying. I wonder why RRO didn't design it that way? All I can think to counter is that Glen thought that this way better utilized the strength of the factory perches underneath for a more stable mount possibly?
Hardly anybody does. I believe the main reason is you can run longer shocks without having to weld shock mounts on the tube. I like to keep my shocks up and away from the rocks and recommend putting the plate on top on SPOA builds. Cheaper to as you don't have to replace your shocks right away.
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I don't have a SPOA,
But the one I have checked out, reuse the "plate" just swap sides so the shock bolt lines up to use stock shocks.