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Title: Kaiser Locker
Post by: fordem on June 19, 2011, 12:06:19 PM
I came across this yesterday - I've never seen it mentioned here, so I don't know if you folks are aware of it.

Kaiser Lockers (http://www.kaiserlocker.com/en/)
Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: wildgoody on June 19, 2011, 12:17:23 PM
I couldn't find a price or even a distributor, the company is in Brazil
Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: Jonny Rash on June 19, 2011, 08:51:38 PM
Pretty interesting design.  I wonder how the street manners are compared to the lunchbox lockers. 

As far as price, since it comes with a new carrier, I would bet it would start around $400-$500. 
Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: Drone637 on June 20, 2011, 02:17:53 PM
Sold out, but I found a price at least:

http://store.expeditioneers.com/samurai.html (http://store.expeditioneers.com/samurai.html)

People have been happy with them though, there is a good discussion over in I8Mud forum:

http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/378609-kaiser-locker.html (http://forum.ih8mud.com/80-series-tech/378609-kaiser-locker.html)
Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: Jonny Rash on June 20, 2011, 02:51:42 PM
Yep, the price of an ARB diff.  Except with the ARB you still need the pump, have air line reliability issues, engagement fun etc.
Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: bentparts on June 20, 2011, 05:45:52 PM
Never had any air line reliability issues with my ARB's. 4 years running.
Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: Jonny Rash on June 20, 2011, 11:18:58 PM
I think it all depends on where you wheel.  Here in NE OK we have a lot of wooded, muddy trails & low water crossings with small sticks/logs that tend to get stuck up in the undercarriage. I've seen fuel lines ripped out, plastic fuel filters broken etc, Of course, it was all on Jeeps.  ;). Although I have had branches lodged between the body/frame etc. 

Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: bentparts on June 21, 2011, 04:53:09 AM
I've wheeled my Tracker in lots of nasty conditions, New Jersey wetlands being only one of the places, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Kentucky, Tennessee, NC, Pennsylvania, NY, and I'm probably forgetting a few, but when I set up my air lockers I payed attention to careful routing of the airlines, and covered them with plastic conduit, the kind used for wiring. Really, if set up well, Air Lockers are completely reliable.  jmo.
Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: Jonny Rash on June 21, 2011, 07:42:53 AM
I imagine the wiring conduit helps to protect it to a good degree.  I'm actually seriously considering put in an ARB locker in the rear of one of my DD Samurais so it's not like I'm totally against them.  I just wish there was an electric locker or some other alternative to the ARB and various lunchbox designs.  I realize that there is that one mechanical design from the UK too, but the plastic diff cover and housing mods aren't exactly plusses.
Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: fordem on June 21, 2011, 10:27:01 AM
Plastic diff cover?  Are you referring to the Kam (http://www.kamdiffs.com/index.php) locker?
Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: Drone637 on June 21, 2011, 10:34:42 AM
The KAM locker:

http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=277 (http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=277)
http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=278 (http://www2.izook.com/?page_id=278)

Not exactly plastic.  :)

Huh, it mentions they are looking at releasing a limited slip for the Samurai.  I wonder if it ever came out.
Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: Jonny Rash on June 21, 2011, 11:17:36 AM
It's been a long time since I looked at it.  It looked plastic-like so that's how I remember it as.   ;) 
Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: Jonny Rash on June 21, 2011, 11:24:28 AM
Well well....it looks like my memory wasn't bad afterall.  According to the instructions, the original came with a polycarbonate (plastic) cover, part SU1.  ;)

http://www.kamdiffs.com/images/SUZ-DIIF-LOCK-FIT-V1.7-03-07.pdf (http://www.kamdiffs.com/images/SUZ-DIIF-LOCK-FIT-V1.7-03-07.pdf)

Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: Jluck on June 21, 2011, 02:45:25 PM
why cant we get a wireless electric yet? that would be sweet! and maybe Yukon will make a Suzuki zip locker soon. theres already Toyota ones out but no love for Suzuki guys....yet.
Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: Jonny Rash on June 21, 2011, 03:12:59 PM
Not enough money in the Suzuki market.  Many Suzuki owners are so cheap, they rather weld up their spider/sidegears.
Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: Drone637 on June 22, 2011, 04:25:08 PM
why cant we get a wireless electric yet? that would be sweet! and maybe Yukon will make a Suzuki zip locker soon. theres already Toyota ones out but no love for Suzuki guys....yet.

Just add a 9 volt.  :D
Title: Re: Kaiser Locker
Post by: bentparts on June 23, 2011, 12:54:56 PM
If an electric locker was available for the Trackicks when I got my ARB's I probably woulda gone that route. Less crap to stuff in the engine bay, like the compressor. But at least I can air up tires with it when needed, or use it to blow water out places it shouldn't have got into.  :P The air lines do add a bit of complexity and another thing to fail, but I still believe that in the long run, they are quite reliable. I did finally burn up a compressor motor, but ARB USA gave me their new upgraded compressor, complete, at their cost. That was after 4 years of use. That's pretty damn good customer service.