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Title: 88 Shitbox project....
Post by: XEARLX on July 27, 2011, 07:27:06 AM
well i guess i should start a build thread......

so i bought this 88 samurai a while ago. Bought it with:
-SPOA
-Revolver shackles
-2" body lift
-33" swampers
-complete rollcage
-bucket racing seats
- 4 point harness
- 6.5:1 tcase with twin stick
- weber carb and snorkled

this truck is pretty solid, has body rust but it is what it is. since ibought the thing i've had nothing but problems. everything has been wired like shit, so rewireing lights and dash will soon take into effect. the front axle which i took apart this weekend completely tool a shit on me. lucky i had an extra front axle even though my pinion is beat on that. so i have a sitting lawn ornament at the moment. everything is leaking and i dont know where from. my steering boxis going and im sure along with everything else.

AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME, I MADE A POOR DECISION BUYING THIS PROJECT........... I NEED HELP!!!!!!!!!!

Edit 8/1: When i bough the truck.
(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/037.jpg)

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/032.jpg)

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/033.jpg)

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/030.jpg)

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/029.jpg)

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/028.jpg)

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/027.jpg)
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project.... HELP WANTED
Post by: Jluck on July 27, 2011, 08:24:51 AM
I would handle it a couple different ways depending on budget.

1) find a unmolested stock samurai and transfer all the desired components from yours to it. (junk the body lift)
2) park it and start a front to rear rebuild/refresh. (probably a more expensive way in long run)

so did the axle you just worked on grenade on you? did you ever get that spring pad welded on?
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project.... HELP WANTED
Post by: XEARLX on July 27, 2011, 09:52:13 AM
Thanks man

The spring pad was on the spare axle housing and yes i did weld it on but i was going to swap the third members and axle shafts from spare to replace the shit one. but turns out the spare pinion threads are stripped so i have to buy a new pinion or just go all out and buy my ring and pinion gears and be done with it
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project.... HELP WANTED
Post by: XEARLX on August 01, 2011, 01:14:09 PM
Last week i tore down the front axle and completely cleaned out the housing and you will see why.

To start off with i had to take out my front drive shaft to begin with do to the fact that both yokes were not matched up or aligned right. so that took place where i then tore down the axle because my third member was completely beat

SORRY ABOUT THE SHITY VIDEO. PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE THIRD MEMBER, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR THE CLICKING.
(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/th_068.jpg) (http://s911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/?action=view&current=068.mp4)

from there i tore down the hubs and lockers and so forth

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/075.jpg)

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/076.jpg)

Shortly after i ran into this
(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/078.jpg)

WHO SHIT IN MY THIRD MEMBER?!
(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/077.jpg)
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project.... HELP WANTED
Post by: Drone637 on August 02, 2011, 10:28:29 PM
That is one ugly mess.
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project.... HELP WANTED
Post by: XEARLX on August 04, 2011, 01:59:17 PM
you're telling me. i want to finish the third member so i can get her back to rolling
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project.... HELP WANTED
Post by: Huntnfish75 on August 04, 2011, 08:33:39 PM
I understand exactly where you are. I've done the same thing. I bought a 84 SJ410. I knew I had motor issues with it but the guy swore up an down everything else was good in it. Seems like after I've got the motor rebuilt everything else is was shot as well. I've already sunk over a grand in it and haven't even got to drive it over a couple of miles. Still got more to do before I can take it wheeling. I definitely understand your pain man!!

I just want to get this thing on the road without sinking any more into it. At least so far I think my axles are good. The wiring is so screwed they even used a extension cord to wire part of it! I've almost got the wiring sorted. Fuel gauge and blinkers aren't working. Alternator regulator is fried. Steering was not set up right so I put a high steer on it and now it rubs the front springs because they are shot. I'm picking up some springs this weekend. Still trying to decide which direction to go with the alternator and my funds are fading fast. Hopefully i can get this thing going before I completely run out of cash.
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project.... HELP WANTED
Post by: XEARLX on August 04, 2011, 09:52:33 PM
I understand exactly where you are. I've done the same thing. I bought a 84 SJ410. I knew I had motor issues with it but the guy swore up an down everything else was good in it. Seems like after I've got the motor rebuilt everything else is was shot as well. I've already sunk over a grand in it and haven't even got to drive it over a couple of miles. Still got more to do before I can take it wheeling. I definitely understand your pain man!!

I just want to get this thing on the road without sinking any more into it. At least so far I think my axles are good. The wiring is so screwed they even used a extension cord to wire part of it! I've almost got the wiring sorted. Fuel gauge and blinkers aren't working. Alternator regulator is fried. Steering was not set up right so I put a high steer on it and now it rubs the front springs because they are shot. I'm picking up some springs this weekend. Still trying to decide which direction to go with the alternator and my funds are fading fast. Hopefully i can get this thing going before I completely run out of cash.

You and I are in the same boat brotha. I have a lot more work to go. I need to finish up the front axle and drive shaft then move to wiring, which is going to be a NIGHTMARE!  I may eventually have to pull the motor and trans but i hope i wont have to take that route.

The wiring a lone is going to be such a huge project due to the fact i have to work around this cage and cut out the dash and figure out how im going to shorten the dash to move it forward so i can shorten the steering to make more room. This will be an ongoing project for a long time. Im about $1500 into the entire thing and I feel its just going to get worse.
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project.... HELP WANTED
Post by: Huntnfish75 on August 05, 2011, 02:28:59 PM
At least you know your not alone lol. I've done pulled the motor and transmission out if mine. Rebuilt the motor completely. I was hearing a knocking sound out of the transmission but it turns out it was because there where no bolts holding the transmission to the mount. Someone had just set it in and never bolted it.

I've been fighting wiring all evening. A loose wire hanging down suddenly gets power and touches the tail pipe and starts burning. I get it off of the tail pipe and the wiring issue I was working on starts working!! I just unhooked the battery and came in the house before something burns down lol. I hate wiring!! I would rather take a beating than tackle wiring issues.

Anyway good luck with your project. I hope it turns out ok for you. It will be interesting to see which one of us gets ours on the road first.
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project.... HELP WANTED
Post by: XEARLX on August 05, 2011, 02:55:41 PM
yeah man i hear ya. Im so short on money its not even funny. So I am doing everything i can to keep moving along with this project and to save myself money. The wiring is going to be hell. i started it but have yet to keep moving forward due to the fact i had to take care of the front axle. Im just about done that and then i will move onto the wiring some more.

The wiring will be such an ongoing problem that im just going to take a little bit at a time. label EVERYTHING and just keep on keepin on.

Even after that i have a lot more to worry about like i said with the engine and trans but we shall see how well everything goes from here.

I hope everything goes well on your end as well
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project.... HELP WANTED
Post by: Huntnfish75 on August 05, 2011, 07:27:07 PM
Where are you from Bro?
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project.... HELP WANTED
Post by: XEARLX on August 05, 2011, 08:33:52 PM
Maple Shade. a SMALL town in South Jersey. how about yourself?
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project.... HELP WANTED
Post by: Huntnfish75 on August 08, 2011, 08:28:15 AM
I'm from West Tn. I've picked up a set of springs that I'm hoping to get on the truck tomorrow. If I can get a alternator on the truck I beleive it will be drivable. Can't wait to get it on the trails!
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project.... HELP WANTED
Post by: XEARLX on August 08, 2011, 05:59:21 PM
WELP, i finished the front end. got everything rebuilt, and now im getting ready to start some more on the wiring and figure out my motor leak issues.

I will upload some photos i have from all the progress i made today. Pics to come soon.
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project....
Post by: XEARLX on August 11, 2011, 01:29:06 PM
So here are the pictures for the front axle rebuild

First off rebuilt the knuckles

Right
(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/IMG_0214.jpg)
Left
(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/IMG_0213.jpg)

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/IMG_0215.jpg)

From there i went and put the rotor housing and lockers along with the wheel spacers back on and proceeded to finish my rebuild.

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/IMG_0216.jpg)

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/IMG_0217.jpg)

This was a two days ago I finished the front end and im still annoyed due to the fact my third member still clicks. I have no idea why but it is what it is for now..................

Yesterday i started to tape up and mark the wiring harness. Today i pulled the dash and proceeded to tape and mark off.

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/IMG_0225.jpg)

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/IMG_0222.jpg)

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/IMG_0223.jpg)

(http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/KingMeEarl/Samurai%20project/IMG_0224.jpg)


So this is just a small step towards the whole rewiring process but at least its a start in the right direction.
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project....
Post by: Drone637 on August 11, 2011, 04:39:52 PM
Are you running a locker in the front end?
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project....
Post by: XEARLX on August 11, 2011, 08:49:24 PM
As of right now it's just spooled
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project....
Post by: Jluck on August 11, 2011, 11:22:39 PM
As of right now it's just spooled

the front is??? ouch! that must be a handful.
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project....
Post by: Drone637 on August 12, 2011, 11:10:56 AM
Do you get the ticking noise when the front hubs are locked, or is it when just rotating the front diff?
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project....
Post by: XEARLX on August 12, 2011, 10:27:50 PM
It's just when the third is rotating, and yes it's a handful lol
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project....
Post by: Drone637 on August 13, 2011, 11:47:51 AM
Always in the same spot on the rotation?  With the axles pulled do you get the same noise?
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project....
Post by: XEARLX on August 13, 2011, 03:52:06 PM
seems like its always in the same spot but when the axes were pulled it didnt make the noise. but it was weird cause i swapped new axles in and its doin the same thing as the old axle shafts.
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project....
Post by: Jluck on August 13, 2011, 08:38:19 PM
hubs?
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project....
Post by: XEARLX on August 13, 2011, 09:28:47 PM
It could be but I'm not positive ???
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project....
Post by: MuddyPenguin on January 07, 2012, 09:23:38 PM
In my opinion, it sounds like something with the hubs.
Title: Re: 88 Shitbox project....
Post by: Drone637 on January 09, 2012, 10:34:15 AM
Post resurrection!  I wonder if he ever found the problem...