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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: tmadsuz69 on October 01, 2011, 08:43:47 PM
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I have researched for hours on end.(here in the forum) I know what i want. ok, where do i buy this from? the word on the forum is that it costs $240. where? the calmini 2" shackle reversal. SS1575 is the stock number.
I understand i will need new shocks even though Calmini says stock will work just fine.???
by the way, will i need the bushing SS1575B? (Goes to the rear of the something something.)
hook me up with some needed info please!!!
any one want to add the shock numbers? i found a couple napa numbers on the forum but it was kinda hit and miss.
thanks!!!
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If you want you can just give Calmini a call, http://www.calmini.com (http://www.calmini.com). Low Range Off-Road is a great sight to use as well, as they have a really nice interface. But they are down for me at the moment.
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thanks drone637. calmini shows $280 for the kit on their website. I was hoping someone would let me in on the cheapest place to buy these. i'm a tightwad and need to find the cheapest place. lol
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Buy one used, that's the cheapest method. ;)
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ive been looking for a used one. do you know who has one cause id buy it yesterday?
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What are you trying to do?
I had the SR lift on a Samurai at one time. It smoothed out the ride somewhat, but it it also hurt the approach angle and caused some front driveshaft vibration issues. It also makes the front sit about 1" higher than the rear-or at least it seemed that way. I wouldn't put it on another Samurai, but would probably just get a set of rear OME springs for a mild lift in the rear and put the stock rear springs up front.
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Thanks for the reply.
It's time to buy tires.
My main goal is to comfortably clear 235 75 15's.
I'm not concerned too much about the approach angle. I'm on my third samurai and they have all been stock. I don't need a huge lift. After researching for hours(alot of it on an iPhone at work making me cross eyed) I thought the perfect choice was the 2" calmini sr.
I have read that that tire will clear without a lift. I've got a wheel in the back of my truck and I'm headed to Wally world after work to buy a test tire($80 gr wrangler) to see how it fits. I have alum directional wheels. Not sure about offset. Thought I would try it and maybe use it as a spare if I go more aggressive on the tires.
Anyway, if I do the spring swap how much would my rear springs raise my front? Any?
I do want a level ride and am aware of the shackle reverse kit leaving front higher. I was gonna try and level it out somehow when I installed the kit.
Thanks again, I am open to any suggestions.
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i agree that you do not need a big lift. I've got everything from stockers to ones sitting on 33" tires. The stockers or mildly built ones are some of the most fun to drive though. 8)
I've seen 235/75 tires on stock Samurais before. The front bumper mounts need to be trimmed though. You might also need to hammer the seam on at the back of the front wheel well. My brother runs 225/75 tires on his Samurai with stock wheels and he doesn't have any rub issues, although they are a street tread.
The rear springs installed in the front will raise it an inch. I'd buy the kit from RRO for $50 or so. You basically take off the helper leaf off the rear spring pack and then install a front spring into the rear pack. Research the RUF hybrid spring back. That should lift you enough to fit the 235" tires.
You could see if you could source another set of rear springs for the RUF, that way you could use a 2" longer shackle for the rear with your stock leafs. Then your Samurai would sit like stock, only 1" taller and the ride would be much nicer. It would also clear the 235s and the lift could be done for around $100. 8) Good luck!
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P.M. me, I have one with less than 100 miles on it. Gonna go bigger. I ran 235s on 7inch wheels and it looked great on my hard top. You will need front shocks. I dont care what Calmini says. Let me know if you are interested I am in Oregon. -KB-
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I bought one Goodyear wrangler tire yesterday and put it on. 235 75 15. Good thing I only bought one. I don't like it. Not enough tread touching the ground. I'm gonna get something like the general grabber( squarer). guess I've got a good spare tire now.
Anybody live in the fort worth area that wants to do a spoa on my ride? I'll buy the parts and BEER !!! LOL
Man, this sucks. Too many choices. I was sold on the sr. Now I'm not sure.
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Yes, that tire has a fairly mild tread for an AT. However, if you have open diffs, I really don't see a whole lot of benefit to running something more agressive. I'd say keep it low to the ground if you are doing mainly street driving. A SPOA is great for offroading, but not so great on the street.
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Thanks mr. Rash.
I will be on the road 85% of the time. The wider tread pattern looks better to me. I just need a couple inches of lift, cheap and easy. That's why I WAS wanting to go with the s/r kit. I'm gonna check into some other options now. Maybe the3" calmini new spring kit. But I don't think it had drive line spacers. I would think I would need those with that kit.
I think for now I'll put the gen grabber 235 75 15 on and loose the front bumper. Then try and make up my mind on a lift.
I'll also look into the ome 1 1/2 " springs. But my main problem is not knowing exactly what all else I would need to buy. I am on road most of the time. When I go off road nowadays it is very mild. (thanks to newer laws that keep us texans off the riverbed)
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Just put on some 1" longer shackles on all four corners or do the RUF/2" shackles in the rear. Hammer the rear seam in the front tirewell and trim the front bumper mount. You really don't need that much lift to clear those tires.
One thing that you haven't mentioned is gearing which to me is a must for any tires larger than stock. The little 1.3 needs all the help that it can get. I recommend looking for an SJ410 case or going for a 4:1 case.
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I have thought about longer shackles. Read a lot on that subject. I guess the steering wheel issue (being off) was my roadblock there. Never really read how to correct that issue. Longer pitman? It looks to me like the s/r kit would do the same thing but what do I know.
I just need to jump in and do something. I always overthink things. I always need all the answers in my head before I start a project. But that is keeping me from driving it.
About the gearing ...
I do not plan to change. It is a very strong running 90 model injected. It has more power than I remember my other two carb models having. I think it'll do ok. I just drive her to work (on back country roads and about 2 miles of highway which is 60 mph). It is normally my daily driver. Hope I'm not screwing up but the 235 75 15 tires are cheaper than the ones on it now. They are 225 70 15. Besides, it'll look alot better. (my truck I'm driving now has 35's and I wouldn't mind getting Sammi up a bit)
Thanks again
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To fix the steering wheel, simply unbolt it, pull it off, recenter, push back on, bolt down. A simple 2 min procedure.
Yes, the FI models have more power as well as the .865 fifth. I have a stock 94 in my fleet. If you only go 60mph, you should be ok. It will still be harder on the clutch though-especially offroad.
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Ok, I ordered four shackles. 2" lift. I might drill a new set of holes for less lift, I'll figure that out later.
Also ordered four General Grabber AT2's 235 75 15. Pretty good price from Wal mart.
Now to find shocks that will work. Anybody know napa numbers for longer soft shocks?
Gonna search some more.
Ps. Tire man , I pm'ed you about your calmini lift. I'm still interested.
It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it!!!
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The 2" shackles will only net 1" of lift. You'll be able to keep your stock shocks.
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i put the shackles on tonight. wow, and yall call the shackle reverse "FANGS" these shackles hang down the extra four inches. i dont mind, but i can't imagine why i did this instead of the shackle reverse kit.
still needing shock numbers.
i had to take the sway bar off and it won't go back on with the longer shackles. im gonna fab some brackets to make it work unless any one can recommend a fix.
cant wait to get my tires!!!
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Wow. ??? Those look like they are longer than 2" longer than stock. More like 3". (ok, I just saw where you said that they were 4" longer than stock.)
I also never put a shackle longer than 1" on the front.
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Shackle reverse does not hang that far down. I also moved the front axle forward an inch. Let me know what you decide. I will be taking it off this week and selling it next. Its new with less than a hundred miles. Got new cooper stt 31" muds as well. Still have "nubbys" on them. Laters -KB-
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Shackle reverse does not hang that far down. I also moved the front axle forward an inch. Let me know what you decide. I will be taking it off this week and selling it next. Its new with less than a hundred miles. Got new cooper stt 31" muds as well. Still have "nubbys" on them. Laters -KB-
Yes, the shackle reverse hangs down about the equivalent of a 2" shackle. He really needs to get rid of those 4" longer shackles.
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The shackle reverse would have been a much better option than those
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The shackle reverse would have been a much better option than those
Agreed. If he wanted a shackle lift to fit 235/75 tires, he should have stuck to 1" longer shackles.
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These shackles were cheap. I can drill new holes where ever I need to. (and cut em off)
My tires came in today. Looking forward to a test drive.
I will probably end up getting the shackle reverse kit .I don't think I will be happy if I lower it an inch by shortening the shackles.
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You only need to lift it enough to clear the tires. With that long of shackle, you're definitely going to have some wandering issues on the road. You will quickly find out if you need to rebuild the front end due to rusty king pin bearings/knuckle seals.
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Without addressing the backspacing issue on the 235's, you will probably have rubbing issues on full lock turn on the springs. Also IMHO without gears you will have major power drop on hills and will put a lot of extra strain on your clutch. Get 410:1 T-case gears and be happy. With just a 2" Calmini SR you will need longer front shocks but rears will be ok. They say you don't need the sway bar but just extend the hangers and you can keep it.
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Thanks for all your feedback.
I got to drive her to work this morning. Loved it. Drove about 12 miles. Even hit 60. The new tires don't rub at all. Put it in 4low and climbed around on the tank dam. No rubbing. I will leave it like this for awhile. Hope the wheel bearings hold out for awhile. We'll see.
Gonna get longer shocks.
I also pulled the front bumper mounts out a bit with a tree and a come along and reattached the front bumper to give a little more clearance(one side was bent in a little) now both sides are away from tire about an inch more.
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Mine only rubbed when I turned it all the way and then it rubbed the springs. I have cheap Uniroyal 235's from Wallymart. I drove it with the stock gears for a while but found that I was using my clutch way too much to get moving and the hill climbing sucked. I would never go back to stock gears now.
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Yes, the 4:1 case will make it a lot better on the highway and offroad.