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Title: need some alt help
Post by: Mike71 on May 05, 2004, 04:32:15 AM: ok i called the dude about the 200 amp alt today..he said he doesnt know if itl fit w.o modification or not but he has a 200 amp AC delco with the same kind of "ears" he said..so i was just wondering if anyone had any info to help me there

also if it doesnt fit where would i got to have it made to fit? like what kind of shops would install it?
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: Mike71 on May 06, 2004, 03:58:59 AM: this guy says his alts "kick in" at like 900rpm so that shouldnt be a huge problem..i just need to know how to tell if itl fit or not
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: explosivo on May 06, 2004, 07:22:21 AM: You'll probably have to fabricate your own brackets since the Sidekick alternator is pretty small...
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: 1bigtracker on May 06, 2004, 08:05:24 AM: dosn't some one sell a alt swap bracket for the 1.6? i thought i saw one somwhere.

stu
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: 90Stomper on May 06, 2004, 11:25:13 AM: i just wish someone would figure out an alt that could just be 'droped' in with no bracket or pulley mods! i think it will become my summer quest :-/ if someone would make one i would be the first in line with a lil $$$. i know they make a braket for GM alts in a Sami...

about your alt, is that the stock output amp or has it been modified to reach that. the auto el. place here says to stay away from upgraded ones cause they burn out real fast. good luck!
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: Mike71 on May 06, 2004, 02:52:08 PM: lol upgraded ones will not burn up fast unless u abuse them there is a GM alt braket swap but what would i have to change if i did that? would i have to change the belt or something
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on May 07, 2004, 04:47:31 PM: Quote
dosn't some one sell a alt swap bracket for the 1.6? Ã‚Â i thought i saw one somwhere.

stu

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Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: nc_zuk on May 08, 2004, 01:14:02 AM: Roadless gear also makes a GM alt bracket. STAY AWAY FROM IT!! I had one snap in half last weekend while on my 3.5 hour trip to the beach!! Luckily I was close to a friends house and we ended up making a new one from scratch. Took us 3.5 hours to get it all back together :-/ So what was a 3 hour trip turned into a 7 hour trip >:( I sent them an e-mail telling them about it breaking and this is what I get back. They NEVER once offered to replace it or send me a new one. Now that's great service ::)

I have forwarded your email on to the guy who makes these brackets for me. Ã‚Â I am getting low on these so I am hoping this feedback will help remind him to double check his work better before I place my next order of 100 brackets through him. Ã‚Â On the up side - this is the first failure like this I have heard about so it seems the vast majority of his work is up to spec. Ã‚Â This may have been one that slipped through the cracks. Ã‚Â I will also inspect the remaining inventory for potential problems.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

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Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: Maiden Hell on May 08, 2004, 01:39:04 AM: My Sidekick idles at about 3100 RPM...that should be more then enough to kick in.
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: Mike71 on May 08, 2004, 08:04:34 AM: ok so say i get the braket, tell him to make me a GM alt..what will i need to change on the car other then the braket? i want to weigh all options before i jump off that $200+ diving board....that is quite a bit of money to me

thanks for any and all help guys =)

ps when u get my '71 u are all welcom for rides when i get in ur area =)
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: 90Stomper on May 08, 2004, 04:21:03 PM: i read somewhere that when a guy put on an alt aout of a cutlass or something that he had to remove and use his stock pully for the belt, but that he had to have the ID machined to fit the shaft on the cutlass one. so you might run into this ??? seems kinda iffy, and if it dont fit then you got to find another stock pully.... but i am dying to hear how this all turns out! ;D

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Now that's great service
that sucks, that seems to happen alot with small aftermarket suppliers.

i thought the TrailTough and Roadless ones were for a Sami?
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on May 08, 2004, 04:30:43 PM: TRAIL TOUGH HAS SIDEKICK ONES......
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: Mike71 on May 09, 2004, 02:30:59 AM: see i am going to be buying a camaro so for a while the geo will just be a back up to the camaro or ill drive it when i need to save money..so the stereo is going to be stupid loud lol i am going to run 2 more kicker CVR 15s for a total of 4 and i am going to run my amp at 2ohm mono for 2,065 watts RMS and 4,653watts MAX

so i am going to need alot of amprege, plus down teh road ill have on board air winch all that kinda stuff..so a 200amp alt is as small as i can go lol
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: Mike71 on May 09, 2004, 03:18:20 AM: just to kind of put into perspective what kinda power i need...a friend has 4 subs that are pretty much just like mine same amp and everyhting..running the amp at 4ohm mono with a 200amp alt and 2 batts he had no light dim..running 2ohm mono with the same setup his lights dim quite badly lol so thats just to kinda of help u understand the kind of power im talking about
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: HotRod on May 09, 2004, 04:56:24 AM: You kids and your stereos ;D
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: Mike71 on May 09, 2004, 04:57:15 AM: lol so far i have made around 3k off of my stereo installs =) so i think it is working out for me lol
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: HotRod on May 09, 2004, 05:08:00 AM: If ya making $ off it, Thats a good thing ;D
I'm not big on Stereos, Don't get me wrong, Some music I just want to Kick it up But don't have the speakers or power for it.
I gotta box for it Ã‚Â now, though ;D Ã‚Â
But Function over Sounds, Ã‚Â for Now. :D
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: Mike71 on May 09, 2004, 05:40:35 AM: lol well i am teh first to admit my sh$t is stupidly loud i will goto a friends house be on the other side of the devolpment and ill get a call..dude is that u bumping lol

at night u can hear me about 12-15 city blocks away =)

sometimes i drive through the mall parking lot setting off alarms

and yes i am that a$$hole that rattles ur windows...but my car doesnt pollute like 10x of the other heaps and i do turn it down if theres kids or old people
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: HotRod on May 09, 2004, 06:52:18 AM: I'd be the first to admit there are songs that are made to be heard at full-blast and I like em. My gf car has a factory 400 and some watt factory amp and 8 speaker Boise system.
If you can Crank it up and the sound is still good, your donig a good job. Its the crappie system some kids have that get all disdurted (sp) and all you hear is noise w/no music But I'm no fan of Rappin except Emiem ( trailer trash funny rap) Then agian i'm a funny type of guy ;D
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: Mike71 on May 09, 2004, 07:17:38 AM: i work from 8pm to 6am so in the morinin someitmes im bumpin the eric clapton or the berry white lol..i can make anything hit =)

country has bass in my car =) i also listin to bach and stuff lol
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: HotRod on May 09, 2004, 07:24:41 AM: thats probly so you can stay awake till you get home.
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: Mike71 on May 09, 2004, 07:39:55 AM: acctually its so its because when i drive to rap i tend to not pay as much attention but when i listin to berry i sing and stuff =) lol so it keeps me focased

i am still awake from work lol 2 days ago!!!!! :o

but in any event its hard to sleep with 142DB blowing air at the back of ur head and ur junk shaking in ur pants lol =) tee hehehe i love boom boom
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: Mike71 on May 11, 2004, 05:10:31 AM: ok guys its getting down to crunch time i have till friday to figure out what alt i need to buy

edit i just called the dude and if the alt braket pans out it looks like it is a go for the 200amp alt =) alt with braket will run me like 300$ shipped..not to bad for 14.4volts constant =)
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: Mike71 on May 11, 2004, 05:20:12 AM: ok pimp..he says itl work kick in is at 800RPM wich will be near 110amps :o and at 2k rpm ill have the full 200amps

i will also be running one yellow top? red top..whatever one is better at starting the car and 2 SVR 1200s which have more juice then the optimas =)

i will have 4 kicker comp VR 15s powered by 1 RF 800|removethispart|@2 wired to 2ohm mono putting out 2186watts RMS and 4522watts MAX =) can we say boom boom??

then comes the camaro =)
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: Mike71 on May 13, 2004, 02:18:43 AM: damn i thought a full on comp winning ear splitting zuk would have goten more attention lol..oh well
Title: Re: need some alt help
Post by: Mike71 on May 13, 2004, 04:48:16 AM: sweet ordered my alt braket from trail tough...=) very nice people and she said itl only take 3 buisness days =)