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Title: Locker question
Post by: tracker randy on October 25, 2011, 07:21:17 AM
Is it possible for both front wheels to spin under acceleration without a locker.
I had my 89 Tracker out again this weekend,and am feeling more confident with its ablilty to get me back to camp.
So I got more aggressive in the mud,I would come to a stop in the mud,hit the gas,and both front would spin equally it seems.
I bought this thing with a lift and other perf mods.all done proffesionally.So it would not surprise if it had a locker already.

Thanks
Randy

working on getting some pics of my toy to post.
Title: Re: Locker question
Post by: rascott on October 25, 2011, 09:38:48 AM
i suspect you would know if you had a locker in front. it would be hard on the turns as it locked.
i assume you are referring to an auto locker?
do you have the "big" motor and power steering?
Title: Re: Locker question
Post by: Skyhiranger on October 25, 2011, 05:51:14 PM
Is it possible for both front wheels to spin under acceleration without a locker.

Yes.
Title: Re: Locker question
Post by: susie on October 25, 2011, 07:48:08 PM
I think if you jack the front up and spin a wheel the other one should spin if it's locked.
Title: Re: Locker question
Post by: FBJR on October 25, 2011, 10:32:19 PM
IFS front ends can do that as stated.

IFS is a little more street friendly than a solid axle and tends to transfer power to both wheels better even with an open diff.
Title: Re: Locker question
Post by: mrfuelish on October 26, 2011, 09:39:25 AM
IFS front ends can do that as stated.

IFS is a little more street friendly than a solid axle and tends to transfer power to both wheels better even with an open diff.

OK this one I want to hear!  WHY?
Title: Re: Locker question
Post by: Jluck on October 26, 2011, 10:17:19 PM
IFS front ends can do that as stated.

IFS is a little more street friendly than a solid axle and tends to transfer power to both wheels better even with an open diff.

OK this one I want to hear!  WHY?
Me too!
Title: Re: Locker question
Post by: FBJR on October 26, 2011, 11:09:04 PM
IFS is more street friendly because IFS keeps the tires flat on the ground more in relation to the vehicle body. Vehicle weight is also balanced better on each tire. The more a tire stays FLAT on the ground, with the same weights, the less it slips regardless of any traction device. That's also why cars have IFS in front and many in the rear now.

That is also why both wheels will spin together, even without a traction device. IFS also tends to have torque steer issues with FWD under hard acceleration and have limited travel. (of course there are custom long arm setups that try to address this)
Then again a RWD will do the same but without RWD steering there is no torque steer, just one wheel spins without a locker.

I am no engineer, just what I have learned over the years in 2x4's to 4x4s.

JMHO  :)
Title: Re: Locker question
Post by: talonxracer on October 30, 2011, 07:41:38 AM
Engage the hubs, jack the front end up in the air, turn just the drivers side wheel by hand, if the diff is open the pass side will spin in the opposite direction, if there is a locker they will spin in the same direction.