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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: RJkick on January 26, 2012, 01:17:23 PM

Title: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: RJkick on January 26, 2012, 01:17:23 PM
I hear the shafts are usually green to signify rebuilt and rebuilt are best.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: Zukipilot on January 27, 2012, 09:42:21 AM
I went through so many from a national parts chain that they banned me from the life time warranty on the shafts (Locked, geared and 33's). I started getting used factory ones after that and they are MUCH better. Call Trail Tough, I'm sure they have some from the inventory they just acquired from Hawk Strictly Suzuki.

Zig
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: bentparts on January 27, 2012, 03:38:53 PM
I've picked up a few good used factory ones off ebay for as little as 15 bucks. Always pays to have a couple of spares. the factory ones are definitely the best.
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: RJkick on February 12, 2012, 04:48:36 PM
Looks like the Napa's are too short as this happened after a few whoops - 5 minutes tops
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: noiseyjack on February 12, 2012, 05:03:11 PM
You need a  Diff Drop Bracket Set. How much lift you got?



 
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: Zukipilot on February 13, 2012, 04:43:40 AM
You need a  Diff Drop Bracket Set. How much lift you got?



 

He has the drop installed (came with the 3" kit), you can see it in the pics.

RJ,
Any chance you have the top strut mount flipped and the mount drop (that comes with the 3" lift) installed? If so, put the upper mount back to stock position (un-flipped). On my 89 kick, I went from the Calmini 2" lift to the 3" lift and had issues with the same cv pulling out past the retainer clip (just like what you are experiencing). After looking into it, I had left the upper strut mount inverted when I installed it to the upper mount drop bracket. Once I flipped it back to stock, the problem stopped.

Zig
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: RJkick on February 13, 2012, 07:15:31 AM
I did not flip the strut mount.  I can take some more pictures when I get home today. Anything you want to see in particular besides the strut mout?

The sad part is that the stock shaft was in their for about 5 years after the lift and the stock shaft is still on the passenger side, I know the passenger side is longer but it is still a great selling point that a 20 year old shaft still holds up better than new.  

The Napa shaft is 19 1/4" according to their website
Does anyone know the length of a Suzuki used shaft?

I'm calling Trail Tough when they open today as well.  I saw some on E-Bay for around $40 with shipping.  Napa's site had them for $60 not including the $83 core

The complete build started out with the Calmini 3 + 3 and morph with the build from Rockmolester http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=444978 (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=444978)
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: Zukipilot on February 13, 2012, 09:03:55 AM
Good call. Give TT a call and get a factory replacement. Most aftermarket ones are junk.

Zig
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: RJkick on February 13, 2012, 12:34:00 PM
Brent at Trail Tough did not know off the top of his head what the compressed length of the driver's side shaft was but did say I could try running the shaft without the c-clip to give it more float

Does anyone know if the original shaft is longer than 19 1/4" ?

Does anyone run without the c-clip in the front shaft?

thanks
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: Bobzooki on February 13, 2012, 02:53:05 PM
I get mine from 1st generation 4Runners.   8)
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: RJkick on February 13, 2012, 04:52:51 PM
I get mine from 1st generation 4Runners.   8)


Are they longer than 19 1/4"?
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: RJkick on February 14, 2012, 01:51:20 PM
I get mine from 1st generation 4Runners.   8)

I was looking at a 92 4Runner it said it was 21 1/16" with a 6 bolt end and the Zuk is 19 1/4" with a 3 bolt end
Do you swap the ends or is there a more specific year?  I think the roughly 2" more on the 4Runner would help immensly.  I wonder why more Zuk owners don't change over - Thanks
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: Zukipilot on February 15, 2012, 11:39:45 AM
PM 37Kicker (Stan) and copy MikeRPM4x4 (Hagen). Stan was making a conversion kit to allow us to use Toyota CV's on Kicks. I have not seen him on here in a while, but if you cc Hagen, he will know if Stan is still making the kit.

Zig
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: RJkick on February 15, 2012, 03:44:34 PM
I thought those were made for rigs with the Hagen front end mod, Anvil front, or welding the adapters.  I am still just stock with no welding experience or a welder for that matter.
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: Zukipilot on February 16, 2012, 07:33:24 AM
I know you need to do the widening for them to fit, but not sure about the rest.

Zig
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: RJkick on February 16, 2012, 10:43:05 AM
used factory built CV is on the way
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: RJkick on February 17, 2012, 10:39:46 AM
Looks like the Napa's are too short as this happened after a few whoops - 5 minutes tops


Is this more likely to happen on uptravel or downtravel?  See earlier pictures
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: RJkick on February 19, 2012, 06:28:58 PM
Could a broken strut cause this failure?

Also, I am trying to locate the part number to the cv axle shaft and am coming up blank so far

Any help if you know - thanks

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Title: shackle reversal
Post by: duncan4x4 on February 20, 2012, 12:32:44 AM
does anyone have any pics of an installed shakle reversal kit for a samurai from low range off road?
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: BRD HNTR on February 20, 2012, 08:13:57 AM

Is this more likely to happen on uptravel or downtravel?  See earlier pictures

On down travel.  Dropping a tire in a ditch, or stuffing the other side up climbing out.  When the CV is extended and has traction.
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: Zukipilot on February 21, 2012, 05:28:30 AM
I dont know if it is a length or quality thing when it comes to the aftermarket (rebuilt) CV's. I do know that if you have done anything on your lift that allows it to drop further than just installing the strut spacer that you will have the over extending issue. So you dont trash another, when you get your replacement, peel back the boot after installing it and cycle your suspension with a floor jack/jack stands and see how if the bearings are hitting the retaining ring. If so, you may want to consider making a spacer out of one of your busted cv's by cutting the cup off and grinding it down to fit. This will give you another 1/2" or so.

Zig
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: bentparts on February 21, 2012, 07:03:59 AM
Or install some limiting straps.
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: RJkick on February 21, 2012, 07:57:41 AM
Or install some limiting straps.

Funny but I was searching for your posts and sent you a PM

How long should the straps be?  4Wheel Parts has a set of 2 for $44 but there are multiple lengths and your length is tested so I want to go with it

Also, At what points did you mount them?  I want to make sure I don't cause myself more problems.  And again your mounts are tested

Thanks for all the help This Board has always been a wealth of information and help to me
Title: Re: Where do you buy your Drivr Side CV shaft\axle?
Post by: RJkick on February 21, 2012, 09:00:57 AM
I dont know if it is a length or quality thing when it comes to the aftermarket (rebuilt) CV's. I do know that if you have done anything on your lift that allows it to drop further than just installing the strut spacer that you will have the over extending issue. So you dont trash another, when you get your replacement, peel back the boot after installing it and cycle your suspension with a floor jack/jack stands and see how if the bearings are hitting the retaining ring. If so, you may want to consider making a spacer out of one of your busted cv's by cutting the cup off and grinding it down to fit. This will give you another 1/2" or so.

Zig

I actually took the spacer out to try to avoid too much droop.  Because it is being done for no charge at an auto repair shop I can suggest they look but they aren't inspiring any confidence by not even noticing the broken strut.  I will be putting it up on jack stands to cycle the suspension as you suggested.  Even though the passenger side droops justs as much I am going to try to install limiting straps as BentParts has to try to save my Struts and CVs

Thanks again for your help I really appreciate all the support