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Title: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: hcgalvin on April 29, 2004, 09:46:33 AM
For those of you who saw it, those who were there and didn't, and for those of you who didn't get to go to Moab, here is a link to a page with photos, a couple of links for videos, and a link to the story...

Pictures:

http://swxc.org/images/gone2004/day4/index.html  (scroll through till you find it...)

Roll Vids:

http://www.njax.org/roll/small.320x240.mpg

http://ftp.njax.org/Tim/uprighting.mp4

The Story:

http://www.xterraownersclub.com/cgi-local/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=20;t=006379;p=

Preview:

(http://swxc.org/images/gone2004/day4/images/DSC_3749.jpg)

Ahhh... this is a sigh of relief. I thought I was going to burst because I couldn't post this on here until NOW, two days after I found it!

;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: Zukipilot on April 29, 2004, 10:22:34 AM
So how bad did he get hurt? He climbed in and did not throw on the ol-seatbelt :-/ I hope not bad.
Zig
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: Maiden Hell on April 29, 2004, 10:25:21 AM
Ouch!  :o

I dig Xterras a lot, but I would rather get an XL-7 if given a choice.
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: Bobzooki on April 29, 2004, 10:27:43 AM
Geez, Heather, that was scary.  What the video doesn't show well, is that just before the driver's side hit the rock, out came the arm.  I was digging for my first aid kit, and heading up the rock, when everybody else was reaching for cameras.
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: hcgalvin on April 29, 2004, 11:04:10 AM
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Geez, Heather, that was scary.  What the video doesn't show well, is that just before the driver's side hit the rock, out came the arm.  I was digging for my first aid kit, and heading up the rock, when everybody else was reaching for cameras.


Taken from the forum link to the Story:

"Are you alright?
Yes, surprisingly, when you watch the video, look for my feet coming out of the drivers side window."

FEET?

:o
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: shoyrtt on April 29, 2004, 11:13:27 AM
I read the story and missed the true meaning of some of the Nissan jargon. Someone blamed the rollover on the "LSD."  :o Later in the story "LSD" appears to be some Nissan part, not the mind altering drug. For 3/4 of the story I'm picturing Jimi Hendrix rockcrawling in Moab 8)
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: wildgoody on April 29, 2004, 11:14:56 AM
I think he is just a little off the timing,
his arm came out first, after the rig went
on it's top his leg was trying to go out the
window, Bob and I saw him roll, but I don't
think we ever saw "feet" or even his leg, but
that's what he told us,  as for getting hurt, a few
scrapes and his pride is about all that was hurt.

Wild
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: wildgoody on April 29, 2004, 11:20:32 AM
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I read the story and missed the true meaning of some of the Nissan jargon. Someone blamed the rollover on the "LSD."  :o Later in the story "LSD" appears to be some Nissan part, not the mind altering drug. For 3/4 of the story I'm picturing Jimi Hendrix rockcrawling in Moab 8)



Ha Ha, LOL  Hendrix in Moab  :D, LSD was his limited Slip Diffs,
Steve told everybody "you need lockers"  well now you see why.

Ohh after the roll over, Bobzooki, Jake Palmberg, and I walked
up and over the Golden Steps, much to the surprise of the onlookers
who I guess thought we were going to have as much trouble
as the Nissans did  8)

Wild
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: Agent Orange on April 29, 2004, 12:01:34 PM
scary, it looked to have rolled quite easily. would lockers have made the difference here ? the xterra is my next favorite 4x4 if there weren't any zuks. but i'm glad that guys alright, with no seat belt he could of had more deal with other than a recked truck.
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: wildgoody on April 29, 2004, 12:08:33 PM
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scary, it looked to have rolled quite easily. would lockers have made the difference here ?


I think so, the LS Diffs allowed the truck to slip alternating
tires on the same axle, and the truck did what gravity does
to slipping wheels, pulled it down hill.

Wild
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: NY_SIDEKICKER on April 29, 2004, 12:11:32 PM
THANK GOODNESS THE ONLY THING HURT WAS HIS PRIDE & TRUCK .  THOSE WERE SOME AMAZING PICS. ...THEY SURE NEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING WHEN THEY TURNED IT BACK OVER.....MATTY D. 8)
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: Bigzook on April 29, 2004, 12:39:24 PM
Feel bad for the guy. That was a nice truck. :-/ Glad to hear he wasnt hurt.
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on April 29, 2004, 01:51:24 PM
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Ohh after the roll over, Bobzooki, Jake Palmberg, and I walked
up and over the Golden Steps, much to the surprise of the onlookers
who I guess thought we were going to have as much trouble
as the Nissans did  8)

Wild


Thats for sure! I was leading this trail for the zuks... I didnt even slow down for it cause I didnt think it was a "real" obstical.  More like part of the trail scenery.
::) In the Nissans defence it might have been a wheelbase issue.... BUT I think it has more to due with zuks rock!  ;D

Mike
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: 1bigtracker on April 29, 2004, 01:56:52 PM
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THANK GOODNESS THE ONLY THING HURT WAS HIS PRIDE & TRUCK .  THOSE WERE SOME AMAZING PICS. ...THEY SURE NEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING WHEN THEY TURNED IT BACK OVER.....MATTY D. 8)


hurt pride,  i would be like, "HELL YEA!!  NOW THAT WHEELIN BABY!!!".  i never said i wasn't a at least a little messed up.

stu
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: Fredo on April 29, 2004, 02:25:54 PM
I feel very bad right now... :-/

I roll overed my 4 doors six month ago and i hate this type of things...

Fredo
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: 1bigtracker on April 29, 2004, 02:41:00 PM
after watching the video i would like to say that i think i rear locker WOuLD have stoped that roll.  and mabey some better tires.

stu
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: jagular7 on April 29, 2004, 03:42:24 PM
If you notice, once the driver gets back into the seat, he tries to get the seat belt to work. However, due to the design of the belt system with the gravity lock, it's difficult to accomplish.

Suggestion: what I've done in my Bronco is to use the 'I' adapter for a baby seat. This 'I' makes the belt into a lap belt. Walmart sells them at the counters.

Not this is the best thing to do, but at least it works for stock vehicle's restraint systems. If the driver secured his butt into the seat, he wouldn't have been tossed around. His torso would be a little sore due to the muscles reaction, but he would have been planted in the seat.  To add, the added benefit is that you can still be moveable in the seat to lookout the window.
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: wildgoody on April 29, 2004, 03:46:59 PM
Ya, that works good. Mike uses one in his
Tracker for that same reason.
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: zookiemike on April 29, 2004, 03:58:34 PM
ROCK CRAWLING NOT FLOORING ::)
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on April 30, 2004, 02:44:21 AM
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Suggestion: what I've done in my Bronco is to use the 'I' adapter for a baby seat. This 'I' makes the belt into a lap belt. Walmart sells them at the counters.


I used this for many years now. A few guys I know wear these. I wouldnt recomend it for high speed (50+) but for your average wheelin it is perfect and simple.

Mike
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: Bobzooki on April 30, 2004, 03:51:06 AM
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would lockers have made the difference here ? the xterra is my next favorite 4x4 if there weren't any zuks.


Absolutely, I believe lockers would have made a BIG difference!  That and some cool thinking behind the wheel.  Once you start doing the "death hop", it's time to regroup, try a different line, then ask for a strap.  There is NO SHAME in taking a strap, when your vehicle isn't up to an obstacle, and it's important to know when that is.

The thing that amazed me, seeing all those "built" Nissans, was that their approach angle. and departure angle are TERRIBLE!  They had to DRAG one across Golden Crack.

Mike, I have to agree, that the Golden Stairs were just not that much of an obstacle.  For Zuks, at least!
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: Mike71 on April 30, 2004, 04:36:24 AM
it also doesnt make it any easier picking the hardest damn line then taking it at an angle =)
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: Bobzooki on April 30, 2004, 06:10:13 AM
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it also doesnt make it any easier picking the hardest damn line then taking it at an angle =)


Seriously, I didn't even LOOK for a "line" up that obstacle - just "oh, OK, drive up this little bump"...

When we went up, we just drove around all the rigs, scattered all over the place.
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: HotRod on April 30, 2004, 09:26:57 AM
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Seriously, I didn't even LOOK for a "line" up that obstacle - just "oh, OK, drive up this little bump"...

When we went up, we just drove around all the rigs, scattered all over the place.

Darn Speed bumps ;D
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: Maiden Hell on April 30, 2004, 09:38:35 AM
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If you notice, once the driver gets back into the seat, he tries to get the seat belt to work. However, due to the design of the belt system with the gravity lock, it's difficult to accomplish.

Suggestion: what I've done in my Bronco is to use the 'I' adapter for a baby seat. This 'I' makes the belt into a lap belt. Walmart sells them at the counters.

Not this is the best thing to do, but at least it works for stock vehicle's restraint systems. If the driver secured his butt into the seat, he wouldn't have been tossed around. His torso would be a little sore due to the muscles reaction, but he would have been planted in the seat.  To add, the added benefit is that you can still be moveable in the seat to lookout the window.


Wow, good advice, you're like a doctor or something.  :P
Title: Re: Rolled Xterra in Moab
Post by: jagular7 on May 02, 2004, 03:20:27 AM
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Wow, good advice, you're like a doctor or something.  :P


Some tend to think so, but no, I slept at Holiday Inn Express last night........



......actually, it's over 15 yrs experience of wheeling, then being a father with 2 kids and taking them with me, securing their seats into the truck, and seeing the 'I' thing, figured it'll work for me just as well.
I've only been hassled once buy a local city officer for not wearing my seat belt. Showed him it's a lap belt and he stated that I should not alter the stock seat restraints. I asked if that was a personal comment or a specific requirement and he just laughed and continued walking away.