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ZUKIWORLD Model Specific Suzuki Forum => Suzuki Samurai (All SJ Platform) 1981-1998 => Topic started by: Divn4$ on February 15, 2012, 05:22:37 PM
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Anybody use one of these its the bolt on any other recomendations? I want as complete a kit as I can get,and what do you guys mean by back spaceing on the tires is it the depth of the rims?And do you need spacers Thinking now i want 33"34" tires.This is going to be off road only never highway speeds.Also don't want to spend more than a grand on a kit I mean with everything Thanks for any input.
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If you opt for the High steer kit,(the Z Link is crap) the long travel shocks , then add a track bar to the lift. It's an OK system.....
You realize that with that size tire you will need to re gear. I'd also recommend at the very least, you truss your axles.
If your not a fabricator, and will be relying on kits for the build. I think your gonna run short at $1000...Boxcar...
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Your definitely going to not get where you want to be on a grand. Kit with OTT & shocks only leaves you with $150 left and I think with that much lift your going to want to add a pan hard bar and a rear trac bar. Pan hard bar to keep the side to side movement in check and the rear trac bar to keep the axle wrap in check.
But I also think there will be additional items you will want as well. Not to forget the tires and rims if you don't have them. They can run you well over a grand easily....
Myself I wouldn't advise running a bolt on kit of this much lift without a lil wire feed welding. I wouldn't feel safe bouncing around very hard with bolted on lift perches. If they shift it could be a disaster!!!
I might bolt them on but I would run some weld beads along the sides of the perches to maintain the remain where they are supposed to.
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Man,The more I read the less I know.Not that I knew that much to start.So where do I start..I want to use this in the Florida Everglades So I need lift to get out of the water I have removed all electrical that i could and sealed the rest I did the 2" body lift and working on a snorkle design I want to lift it It will never be at highway speeds again only trail Do I really need all the rear trac bar and Pan hard bar to use it .
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Box and Tux are dead on in recommending a traction bar. Otherwise it is only a matter of time until you bend your rear springs up with axle wrap. The panhard bar isn't a bad idea, but might not be neccessary. I ran without one, but a buddy loved it on his Sammy before he switched over to a hydro assist setup. If you don't want to spring for a full high steer kit then just half of a high steer will work just fine. It means that your tie rod is lower and can be influenced by the terrain but at least your steering geometry is fixed. Personally I like the Sky Stage 2 Spring Over lift, it's weld on instead of bolt on but gives you everything you need for a safe SPOA build.
Backspacing is how far out from the hub the center-line of the tire is. By increasing the backspacing you can give yourself a wider track and stop your tires from hitting the frame. But it also means you will need larger fenders and your tires are more likely to clip the back of your wheel well due to the longer throw when turning the tires.
33" tires the tallest most people feel you can get away with before breaking axles. A set of Double Tough shafts will take care of the front axle if you start breaking birfields but not much can be done with beefing up the rear axles short of an ARB with different side gears and a custom rear axle shafts. Just something to keep in mind when your planning on running larger tires, it might be worth it to plan on different axles to start instead of committing to the SJ axles should you run into issues.
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Hey great thread... ALL good advice.
I'm from Oregon , about as far from Gator country as a man can get in the USA. We do allot of BOGING up here, But nothing like you guys.
It's a completely different building proses though. You need lots of torque as well as gobs of top end HP in the bogs. This equates to some big $$$$ or Big fab skills , or both...
Tire size (BIG) , and the ability to turn them reliably, is allot more important in a bottomless pit.
Most Bogers rely on Big blocks, D-60 s, and 40 s around here. Of course none of this equates to a Zuke .
I like the lift Drone recommends better than any bolt on kit. Seems to be fairly compleat. I don't run a panhard on my Zuke.
But it's not a bad idea. It's just a bit tight under there with the trusses, the high steer, the repositioned Rancho stabilizer, and the linked swaybar....BUT I"M WORKING ON A DESIGN....
$1000 is a real tight budget for any wheeler , let allone a bogger..Good luck..
DON'T FORGET TO EXTEND YOUR AXLE VENTS......Boxcar...
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If your gonna run the Sippee Holes ya gotta be HIGH... Your gonna want to run a tall narrow tire. I'm running 34x9.5's on aluminium rims for much the same reasons. (I only run in the mud) You want a tall tire to get as high as you can but narrow to cut through the sediment and not push it.
You want to keep it light on the spindles so that the isn't much stress. The more tire & weight the more adverse it is on the axles, drivetrain, and motor.
Myself I would build my own lift from the best of what folks have to offer. There is no real deals in buying everything from 1 place. Convienance is a factor for some though.
Sit down and figure out high high you want to be and build from there. It seems like each of the manufacturers offer at least 1 outstanding item to compliment a lift. This will also give you a better "feel" / understanding of how much you will be spending.
The Rocky Road lift you mentioned is a pretty good lift, I just would weld the perches on after I was done though. R.R. gets a pretty bad rap from most Forums for their sometimes poor customer service.
Another item you may want to conside down the road is a power steering set up. It may not be the easiest thing in the world to turn those wheels when the water and sand is saying something different.
WHEW.... alot to think about but your ina good place to ask questions along the way...... ;)
Tux...
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If you have the fab skills . Fallow Tuxblacray's advice.
I'm a firm believer that, If you can build it , don't buy it.
If your gonna buy prefab....Research , research, research. None of them are perfect , or complete kits.......
Remember this: It's the little things that you over look, or the short cuts that you take , that will leave you stuck in the woods.......Boxcar...
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i guess rro gets a bad rap from alot of people but i have their Bolton spoa 6in with shocks and everything and i love it . the only thing i decided to upgrade was the nuts and bolts on the drive shaft extentions . the nut and bolts they sent looked weak so i bought stronger ones that's it . i have their ott steering and have had no problems with it at all . with that i clear my 32x11.50x15 with 2.75 backspacing just fine ! i run in mostly mud and love my KM2s
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RRO s products are fine. But if you need a bit of customer service...Forgetaboutit..........JMHO......Boxcar...
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In case your interested Sean at Aftermarket 4x4 has a bolt on for sale for $250. It is a used take off but everything is there. I believe it is a Calamini.
http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,120973.0.html (http://bbs.zuwharrie.com/content/topic,120973.0.html)
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I was looking for a kit like this ..... is it gone ?
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Check with Sean at Aftermarket 4x4.... ;)
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Check with Shaun at Aftermarket 4x4.... ;)
not trying to push you on this kit or anything like that, but sean is a stand up guy. ive bought from him in the past and recently. good dude, and good service. RRO.... good product, but sucky service. JMHO.