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Title: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: sidekickme on March 31, 2012, 06:05:18 PM
First of i would like to say hi----this is a 2 parter-lol
What exactly tells a fuel pump relay to close the connection and allow power to the fuel pump on a 1993 sidekick?

I have a 1993 suzuki sidekick-4x4,auto trans-4cyl
I cannot get power to my fuel pump.this is what i did so far
no trouble codes
replaced the main and fuel pump relays
replaced the ecm
put a new fuel pump with assembly
triple ground the fuel pump
It runs great if i hit the fuel pump with a 12volt jumper
help please!!!!
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: mrfuelish on March 31, 2012, 06:53:30 PM
I will start you off, pull the cover on the relay with the pink wire, do you have 12v going to it with the key on?
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: HERC99 on March 31, 2012, 09:21:29 PM
i just had this happend to me in my wifes tracker its the pink wire its broke in the rocker panal some were just put a new wire in from the ecm to the pump thats what i did n it started right up if that helps u
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: Skyhiranger on April 01, 2012, 07:36:16 AM
The ECM is what tells the fuel pump when to run.
I would check the wiring connection behind the left rear tail light.  It is known for corroding and not allowing power through it to the fuel pump.
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: sidekickme on April 01, 2012, 05:35:34 PM
actually i ran a fresh wire from the pump to the relay through the backseat-----the pink wire from the ecm to the relay has 12 volts but the wire that goes from the relay to the fuel pump doesn't have power?
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: mrfuelish on April 01, 2012, 09:20:15 PM
you should be able to turn the key on and after a second or two hear the fuel pump relay turn off, if not you could try pulling the case on the fuel pump relay and close the contacts by hand and the rig should run, if so you have a triggering issue.
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: sidekickme on April 03, 2012, 08:37:29 PM
a triggering issue?I do know that 1 wire gets the power but besides the ecm what tells it to give the fuel pump power?I mean it has to go through a sensor to the ecm to the relay to boot up the power to cause the relay to react????????
I will try the relay tomorrow-Thankyou!!!
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: mrfuelish on April 03, 2012, 10:58:09 PM
It's been a while but I think it gets input from the distributor so if you get in a wreck the engine dies and the ecm shuts off the fuel pump relay.
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: sidekickme on April 04, 2012, 05:13:53 PM
Totally makes sense  :) I did take apart the relay turned over the engine and then pressed the relay tab and it started up and ran great-lol---I will check the dist tomorrow and let you know-Thanks Bro!!!!!
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: sidekickme on April 06, 2012, 03:26:33 PM
Ok nothing on the dist. that i can see is bad???Also grounded the master relay the relay is also connected to the fuel pump relay and nothing-ahhhhhhhhhh-lol
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: bentparts on April 06, 2012, 03:38:05 PM
It's been a while but I think it gets input from the distributor so if you get in a wreck the engine dies and the ecm shuts off the fuel pump relay.
Were some of the earlier cut outs also g forced based to sense impact?
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: sidekickme on April 06, 2012, 05:00:49 PM
i think so?I do have a rubber sealed switch or relay next to the wiper motor i do not know what it is?
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: mrfuelish on April 06, 2012, 07:06:42 PM
I could never find a g force switch on mine, would be nice if somebody knew. there are a few free on line pdf files for the factory manuals, maybe look for one of those and see where the trigger point is or where it hooks to?
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: sidekickme on April 08, 2012, 11:04:05 AM
Everything i read says that a 93 sidekick has no crash relay switch?This is killing me,i might just hook a toogle to the fuel pump-lol-I'm at a loss.......
One thing though is when i first got it i replaced the back left wiring to get the lights working.They were all rotted...
Plus there is a relay by the back left speaker i do not know what it is,but it clicks?
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: mrfuelish on April 08, 2012, 02:30:03 PM
could be for towing a trailer, there is a small white plug in there with four or six connections for the trailer lights.
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: sidekickme on April 08, 2012, 03:17:46 PM
Yes i seen that-ty
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: bentparts on April 08, 2012, 04:17:39 PM
The left side rear tailight wiring area also has the ground for the fuel pump, but you said you looked at that.
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: sidekickme on April 09, 2012, 07:22:06 PM
yes,i ran a new ground to get my lights working,so that's not the problem-lol
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: bentparts on April 10, 2012, 02:36:27 PM
Buddy, I feel for ya. There's nothing more frustrating ( to me anyway )  than trying to trace an errant electrical problem. Sometimes I think these things may be haunted. Hang in there, you'll get it eventually or you can just say screw it and run a switch like you mentioned! :laugh:
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: sidekickme on April 10, 2012, 07:59:12 PM
So true!!!! I will keep you updated and thanks for the help!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: Drone637 on April 11, 2012, 09:07:41 AM
Do you have voltage when you first turn on the switch?  The fuel pressure switch will disable the fuel pump if it does not have adequate pressure after the initial 2-second burst.
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: sidekickme on April 11, 2012, 07:45:29 PM
I have power at the main relay but not at the fuel pump relay
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: sidekickme on April 16, 2012, 09:01:46 PM
I gave up and taped the relay-lol
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: bentparts on April 17, 2012, 03:51:56 AM
Whatever works!  ;)
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: sidekickme on April 18, 2012, 08:09:54 PM
lol-so true so true
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: Zuki-Girl on April 19, 2012, 11:59:40 AM
Nobody mentioned this,so I will. On the dist there's a ground wire that goes to the firewall,did you check to make sure it's connected?
Title: Re: 93 sidekick is killing me
Post by: sidekickme on April 20, 2012, 05:31:49 PM
unfortunately yes-lol-I appreciate the tip  :)