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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: tracker8wr on April 06, 2004, 08:09:08 AM
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I have a 94 for tracker/kick. i was wondering if anyone had ever done a stiaght axle swap with 4 link or leaf springs. i found this badass softwaer that does all the calculations and adjusts for vehicle and axle used. i just don't want to spend the $350 plus a monthly fee of $35 that u have to sign a year contract for. i can figure most of the stuff out myself it would be nice to have a back up consultant. oh i plan on running 37-38.8 boggers. i already layed out the install for the325 hourse power 4.3 v6 but i want the axles in first to doudle check all my clearces.PLEASE HELP IF U CAN
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Check out Sky's website in their Zuk section I saw a pic of one there call and pick their brains.
http://www.sky-manufacturing.com/
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thats not sky's, its calmini's 'kick they built for bewley
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OMG i know you haven't been here for long. heather just finshed her SOS on her kick with leafs. its is soo bad ass. we are all drooling. look a few pages ahead for all the pics.
stu
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http://www.zukiworld.com/cgi/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=suzuki_talk;action=display;num=1080516322 ;D
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No i haven't been here long nor do i have much time to look around (unfortunatly). i love to see other people's creations. however i currently am running 31" swampers on my tracker and 34" mud brutes on my sammi. however i have broke all for of my cvs and am getting tiered of changing them. i have no gear reduction and open diffs so i am afraid what will happen if i go bigger ,lock it up ,and gear it down and that is with the 1.6 16valve. however i have been informed of alot of good info on this forum. i am also considering the bolt in kit for the 2.0 liter from Trail Tough. i will keep the forum updated if i do get the straight axle in however i would like four link in the front atleast an cil overs for a much better street ride. THIS IS A DAILY DRIVER.
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I'm new here but maybe you'd be better off getting like a chevy frame cutting it down and bolting your body on it? :-/ Just a suggestion? I've seen a tracker on one around town?
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With thinking like that, maybe you should go to Pirate!
;)
I think that if you just build around what you have with modified Suzuki stuff, including the engine, you would be very happy with the results.
For example, look at Heather's 95 4door that we did a SAS conversion to. I built the frontend and then we fabbed the rest of the suspension. Turned out rather trick.
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OMG i know you haven't been here for long.  heather just finshed her SOS on her kick with leafs.  its is soo bad ass.  we are all drooling.  look a few pages ahead for all the pics.
stu
I wouldn't say we're ALL drooling ;) I think Heather's is pretty cool and all but I'd rather go coils than leafs...When's that Calmini kit coming out!?!
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http://www.zukiworld.com/cgi/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=suzuki_talk;action=display;num=1058763502;start=0#0
Is this what your looking for? ÂÂ
Call Steve Kramer at 800-345-3305 (Foreign Tech Info)661-398-9555
and pester him like I have been for the past year.
I have even sent Eric an email about it's release date and haven't heard from him yet. :-/
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Yeah CZ, that's what I'm waiting for...guess I should get on the horn and bug him some more about it ;)
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I'M GLAD I DIDN'T WAIT ON IT ::) I'D STILL BE STOCK & NO ZUKE FUND ;D MATTY D. 8)
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yes that is what i am looking for thanks very much. do you know what year that zuk is. i can get all my measurements from the picks you sent me. i'm still not sure what motor to use. i knowwe all love zuks but price is an issue and chevy motors r by far the cheapest so thaks for the picks and info as soon as i get the four link on i'll try to post picks,all the lengths, and all the mount points after i test it that is.
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I'm sorry my reply about the picks was to CZ.
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A bunch of us crazy lunatics still run IFS.
I still haven't broken a CV joint, or axle (knock on simulated wood-grained formica)...
EDIT: But then again, I don't wheel much - just to the mall and stuff.
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Trail rated babie yah ;) Just kiding.Dude get a sammy if you want a staight axel. Just wheel it the way it is i mean you can do some crazy shnit before you ever have a problem. ...............................IFS ROCKS ;D
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Well. I also want a straight axle in front,but I think the mods I saw till now are too difficult for me....I mean ,I read many articles about people installing a straight axle in front but I cant do it,cause I dont know where to find the parts.For example where can I find a straight axle that will match my sidekick? And the rest of the parts to connect it ? and some guidelines ? I think its a bit confusing for me for such a mod,so I ll wait for the Calmini SAS kit.
In the meantime,I m still happy (and safe)  with the Anvil .Soon I will replace the fake spanish CV shafts with Japanese green ones ,and if I break one ,I ll try to do the modification Hagen proposed,with the Ford CV shafts.My only fear,is that if I make stronger CV shafts,maybe a possible damage will go deeper in the differential instead of just breaking  the CV.........
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for those whi don't wheel much ifs is perfect. for those of you who see a HEEP go somewhere and hesitate ifs my last however if a HEEP can i can better and faster and easier. so i guess it really dosen't help that all my friends wheel HEEPS and get tiered of helping me fix the problems my right foot causes. i could either amputate the foot or beef my rig. i'm looking towards BEEF even if i have to swallow some ZUKI pride and use a few heep parts. oh im not just swapping the front axle i'm also doing the rear. DANA 35 with 35 spline axle stubs. i've pulled the measurments off those picks and cut all the tube today. tomartrow i start welding. i love vacation. the axles r off of a 2002 jeep that already had four link front and rear from factory, but holly crap is a lift expinsive for one of these. i going to have to go to the blood bank to get money for the King CoilOvers. so it will be a while until the project is complete.
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My only fear,is that if I make stronger CV shafts,maybe a possible damage will go deeper in the differential instead of just breaking  the CV.........
Just get some fuse hubs... the fuse thinger will break before your CVs/diff does :)
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Im not sure my IFS is even good enough for the mall. ::)
;D
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Just get some fuse hubs... the fuse thinger will break before your CVs/diff does :)
yeah..tell me about it .... ;D
I have warn premium "fused" hubs .Do you really believe the fuse breaks before the CV shaft does????????????
The last time I broke a CV shaft the fuse was in perfect condition.... >:(
And I have an LSD 75% in front and 30x9,5x15....
I think the whole story about those fused hubs is just a joke or maybe it works if you have above 31"s.
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Im not sure my IFS is even good enough for the mall.  ::)
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Im not sure my IFS is even good enough for the mall.  ::)
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Yeah, me either... ;)
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I have the Warn Premium Hubs, with the Hub Fuses.
Which piece do you think I'm most likely to break, going over those curbs at the mall, the fuse, or the CV joint?
???
8)
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With that kind of hard core off roading you could destroy the whole IFS setup, are you nuts.
Mac
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yes ifs does break alot i cn take it apart and put it back together while sleeping. for the warn fuse huds i run 31x11.5x15 on rocks and broke cvs with no fuse damage however i have broken a fuse, a cv, and striped the teeth off my axle stube all at the same time. in the mud i run 33x13.5x15 and have broken fuses and not cvs. but there is only a 20 difference and 5 day wait for the fuses and the cvs. fuses 5 day wait, cvs $20 difference most parts stores stock the cvs non stck the fuses.
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With thinking like that, maybe you should go to Pirate!
;)
I think that if you just build around what you have with modified Suzuki stuff, including the engine, you would be very happy with the results.
For example, look at Heather's 95 4door that we did a SAS conversion to. I built the frontend and then we fabbed the rest of the suspension. Turned out rather trick.
Its funny that you say that 'you' built it because I think that I was in EVERY picutre WE took of US building it.
*grin*
~Nate
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A bunch of us crazy lunatics still run IFS.
I still haven't broken a CV joint, or axle (knock on simulated wood-grained formica)...
EDIT:  But then again, I don't wheel much - just to the mall and stuff.
SO THATS WHATS ON TOP OF LIONS BACK AYE ::)
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yes ifs does break alot i cn take it apart and put it back together while sleeping. for the warn fuse huds i run 31x11.5x15 on rocks and broke cvs with no fuse damage however i have broken a fuse, a cv, and striped the teeth off my axle stube all at the same time. in the mud i run 33x13.5x15 and have broken fuses and not cvs. but there is only a 20 difference and 5 day wait for the fuses and the cvs. fuses 5 day wait, cvs $20 difference most parts stores stock the cvs non stck the fuses.
You says"IFS does break a lot" That is a blanket statement that doesnt hold water. Im running 35s and wheel pretty hard... Im not breaking. ::) Chunk is running all stock running gear... including stock cvs on 31s.(With the exception of front and rear lockers + 4to1 case) I can count how many times chunk has broke in the last 5 years on one hand. If your having a problem with breaking stuff you need to find out when it started happening (whats changed from when you didnt break things) and why. Then upgrade according to your driving. Mabey you like the feel of a straight axle... that would be a good reason so switch... Not because "IFS breaks a lot". :-/
Mike
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You says"IFS does break a lot" That is a blanket statement that doesnt hold water. Im running 35s and wheel pretty hard... Im not breaking. ::) Chunk is running all stock running gear... including stock cvs on 31s.(With the exception of front and rear lockers + 4to1 case) I can count how many times chunk has broke in the last 5 years on one hand. If your having a problem with breaking stuff you need to find out when it started happening (whats changed from when you didnt break things) and why. Then upgrade according to your driving. Mabey you like the feel of a straight axle... that would be a good reason so switch... Not because "IFS breaks a lot". :-/
Mike
yup
Our IFS held up great. Had some ring and pinion problems due to auto hubs and that was the only issue I can think of.
~Nate
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i have had quite a bit of problems with mine mostly breaking. general operation it is fine. it is when i get in a bind i don't have a winchso the right fodt does its thing. how ever there is something about running 38 on a tracker that is cool. i have already made most of the four link and getting the axles from a friend for freethat are already locked up. all i have to do is help him put on his dana 60's. anyway how much stronger do ya'll think dana 35s r than a stock kick axle?